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5 hours ago, Andy Dufresne said:

I'd be interested in seeing how that data was interpreted because that just seems absurd on its face. 

I'd start with "what was the threshold" and then ask "is that from game to game or year to year"? For the second question I could buy the conclusion for game to game but not year to year.

Even just anecdotally, virtually all the players that had really long careers were high workhorse guys.

Martin, Emmitt, Peterson, Gore, Bus.

Meanwhile there were lots of guys with lower workloads or late starts like Charles and Westbrook that people pontificated would be able to stretch out their careers longer because of it, but they were toast before they hit 30.

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8 hours ago, FGITLOTR said:

Exactly! He looks slow, unable to break the first tackle and has put the ball on the carpet at an alarming rate. Despite no serious injuries, he has major tread on those tires and the heavy workload has taken its toll. Say what you want, but Pollard looks substantially quicker and more elusive. I know they have big invested in Zeke, but if they want to put a better product on the field, this would become a timeshare and Pollard would at least be featured in a passing down role. If I remember correctly, Bloom had Pollard on his buy low list a few weeks back. In my opinion, now is the time to buy low on Pollard in dynasty leagues.  

Did you find that he slowed down and can’t break a tackle at the same time Daks leg got snapped?

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1 hour ago, Cowboysfan8 said:

Did you find that he slowed down and can’t break a tackle at the same time Daks leg got snapped?

No, but I appreciate the question. Let me help you out here: Zeke’s decline actually started last year, not this season. Despite great grades from both Pro Football Focus/Football Outsiders last season, indicating the Cowboys' line can still be considered very good, Zeke posted a career-low in yards per game. His longest run the past 3 years is 38 yards. It’s abundantly clear that he lacks the burst we were accustomed to seeing at Ohio Stare and in his rookie year. At this point in his career, Zeke is a good RB, but certainly not elite. 

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Ezekiel Elliott rushed 10 times for 32 yards in the Cowboys' Week 12 loss to Washington.

Elliott not only got nothing going on the ground, but he also lost another fumble while running between the tackles. It's been a constant issue for the $90 million back in 2020, and there's simply no excuse for why it's happening. Elliott is also losing passing-down snaps to Tony Pollard, who has been more explosive than Zeke although it's on less work. With the Cowboys losing both starting tackles on Thanksgiving, it's likely that Zeke struggles to post RB1-level production in fantasy circles. He'll be a boom-bust RB2 against the Ravens in Week 13. 

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https://twitter.com/marcus_mosher/status/1332104379902681088?s=21
 

Marcus is spot on! I was also glad to hear Aikman acknowledge that Zeke doesn’t have that burst anymore (pre hammy issue). Zeke with yet another fumble and putrid performance (6 fumbles in his last 10 games 😳). They still have 90 mil guaranteed left on his hideous deal, which will be a noose around the their neck the next two years. 

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53 minutes ago, FGITLOTR said:

Yeah, people are definitely starting to shy away from him. Hopefully he turns it around next year, but I doubt it. 

I don’t know.  I would def say his value is at an all-time low.

A healthy O Line and Dak back under center might do wonders for him. 

I would also guess his motivation right now couldn’t be lower.  I mean what is playing for right now? 

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Ezekiel Elliott rushed 18 times for 77 yards and caught 4-of-6 targets for 18 yards in the Cowboys' Week 13 loss to the Ravens.

Elliott showed a little more burst than normal early in the contest but was routinely stuffed in short-yardage situations. At one point, Dallas attempted three-straight carries at the goal-line. All of them went nowhere. Elliott hasn't been anywhere near good enough as a pure runner to re-enter the RB1 conversation alongside his below-average offensive line and quarterback. His big workload is more than enough to secure a volume-based RB2 ranking down the stretch, however. Elliott could have his best game post-Dak Prescott in Week 14 against the Bengals. 

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Ezekiel Elliott was listed as limited for Wednesday with a calf issue.

We believe this is the first time that "calf" has popped up next to Elliott's name this season. To clarify, the Cowboys did not practice on Wednesday, but this report from the team is instead just an estimation. Elliott is fully expected to play in Week 14 in a smash spot against the Bengals.

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On 11/27/2020 at 1:00 PM, scothawk said:

Tried to move him in dynasty. Feels like I'm stuck with his contract too.

What were some of the parameters discussed? I like Zeke as a buy low. He’s still a first round pick in redraft next year.

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Ezekiel Elliott (calf) is questionable for Week 14 against the Bengals.

Elliott was previously questionable following a limited session ahead of Dallas' matchup against Pittsburgh in Week 9 and proceeded to handle 20-of-30 backfield touches including a team-high 18 carries in that one. In other words, Elliott is fully expected to play and handle the lion's share of touches ahead of Tony Pollard. Zeke, as always, is a touch-based RB2 that could be avoided if it weren't 2020.

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On 12/10/2020 at 6:37 PM, ILUVBEER99 said:

Things fell apart when Dak went down.  Elliott will be fine when Dak returns.

in 5 games with Dak he had 537 total yards and 6 TD’s.

He’s still only 25.  

I think its also worth pointing out, 5 of his last 6 games have been against stout run defenses. Bal Pit Phi and Was x 2. Pretty rough stretch. The other game, Min, he had a good game.

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On 12/10/2020 at 5:37 PM, ILUVBEER99 said:

Things fell apart when Dak went down.  Elliott will be fine when Dak returns.

in 5 games with Dak he had 537 total yards and 6 TD’s.

He’s still only 25.  

Dak along with Tyron Smith, Zack Martin, La'el Collins, and a slew of other O lineman.

I think we're up to 17 different starting line combos this year.

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Dak along with Tyron Smith, Zack Martin, La'el Collins, and a slew of other O lineman.

I think we're up to 17 different starting line combos this year.

And when you consider Dallas has only played 12 games, that’s saying something.

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8 hours ago, Teezee said:

I would pick up Pollard if you can. Zeke has a calf and a hammy. He may not make it out of the CIN game, I don't think they push it. I wouldn't be surprised if they shut him down next week.

This is my situation... trying to decided which one to start. Leaning Pollard right now 4.5 before kickoff. 

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Ezekiel Elliott (calf) is active for Week 14 against the Bengals.

Zeke was never in real danger and gets a rare RB1 week in a soft matchup against a Bengals defense allowing a crisp 5.0 YPC to running backs. Inactive for Dallas are QB Ben DiNucci, WR Malik Turner, CB Anthony Brown, S Donovan Wilson, DE Bradlee Anae, OLB Luke Gifford, and DT Eli Ankou.

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Ezekiel Elliott (calf) was limited at Wednesday's practice.

Coach Mike McCarthy said Elliott's didn't have any setbacks in Sunday's win over the Bengals. The Cowboys got Tony Pollard (13 touches) more involved last week with Elliott at less than 100 percent.  Elliott's practice reps will be monitored but he should continue to play in Week 15 against the 49ers.

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Dec 16, 2020, 12:26 PM ET

 

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Ezekiel Elliott (calf) remained limited for Thursday's practice.

To be clear, Elliott hasn't practiced with the team the past two days, instead staying off to the sidelines and being limited to resistance training ahead of Sunday's game. He's still expected to start and play, though it would not be shocking if Tony Pollard was again handed a high share of this backfield's touch count. Elliott remains a hold-your-nose RB2 if only for his (dwindling) touches as long as he's active.

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Ezekiel Elliot (calf) is questionable for Week 15 against the 49ers. 

The team expected Elliott to play through his nagging calf injury. He didn't practice Wednesday or Thursday. We're awaiting his Friday practice status. Expect Elliott to continue losing snaps and touches to Tony Pollard, who has been Dallas' best back of late. Pollard could have flex consideration in deep leagues this week against the Niners. 

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