If RG provided all the evidence, there would be no case here. But he withheld clearly relevant evidence. Which raises a case that there may be a violation. The bar for granting a TRO or injunction isn't as high as you are implying. If the judge has reason to believe there may be a violation of Policy, he can grant the TRO. This doesn't mean RG violated the policy.
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Do you know how many times this kind of situation has come up and they HAVE been slapped with a suit? Just because they say it wasn't your age, doesn't mean it wasn't your age.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
And without credible evidence to the contrary it gets thrown out. And without initial credible evidence I don't get to just start digging around their records and personnel.
ffinmyblood
Footballguy
It will be granted...from what i heard this morning on the radio, someone close to the Judge, who has been in that courtroom many times through the years, knows the judge etc, said he'd be shocked if it's NOT granted. I think that's BS(I mean I guess that means it's okay to hit a woman). But it will be granted.
The bar isn't as low as you seem to think it is. He has to show irreparable harm (which in and of itself is questionable because courts tend to view monetary reimbursement for lost wages as "repairing harm"), AND he has to show a likelihood of winning the suit. Since he'll likely lose, that seems to be a MAJOR obstacle.
Irreparable harm is pretty easy here. Yes, courts usually consider monetary reimbursement as repairing harm, but not in the case with professional athletes. It's common knowledge that an athlete's career is typically very short, so not allowing one to participate during this short period is harm that can't be repaired by money. This isn't an accoutant with a 40 year career.
The good news is you and I don't get to decide. The judge decides which one of us is correct. Hopefully in less than 15 minutes.
It's common knowledge? How so? When has this happened so much to make it common knowledge?
Hankmoody
Footballguy
The TRO has nothing to do with Elliott's guilt or involvement in the case, they would only grant it or not based on whether or not he got fair treatment under the agreement (CBA) between the parties.
Common knowledge that an athlete's typical career is short.
There is harm to not allowing a player to play, past the financial harm. Many athletes do love the game. And the career is short.
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ffinmyblood
Footballguy
Which he did, but seeing as how it's a Judge in Texas, and not granting the TRO would likely lead to death threats from Idiot Cowboy fans..
The General
Footballguy
It's happening
Rhythmdoctor
Footballguy
So do we get him all year? Need cliff notes.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That's the important question… from what I read before they may be able to drag it out all year. But that depends on the lawyers, the judge, and the available court dates.
Drafting tomorrow, I really wish this were more clear.
nittanylion
Footballguy
I'm genuinely worried why this Thread isn't chock full of people right now...
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
ffinmyblood
Footballguy
This seemed inevitable...What's ironic is Jerry was so in favor of Brady's suspension, and I believe even commended the NFL for doing "the right thing". Now that it's one of his own..Why even have a CBA when all the players have to do is take it to court, and get TRO's?? That's so laughable...I really wish there was some accountability by these pro athletes and own up to what they did, instead of screaming "it's unfair, it's unfair". This is the new world we live in unfortunately.
The preliminary injunction means the NFL can appeal immediately. This appeal would likely fail and this case would hopefully drag out for the entirety of the year.
ffinmyblood
Footballguy
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BREAKING: Ezekiel Elliott wins injunction from Texas court. NFL barred from imposing suspension for duration of lawsuit (likely all season).
theplayer11
Footballguy
bagger
Footballguy
Pretty similar to the initial ruling in the Brady case, which was overturned. The judge then overstepped his legal authority, as did this one. NFL will appeal. Zeke owners watch the legal steps taken next. The appeal should be heard in TX, which is favorable for Zeke. If it's moved (especially to NY), the idea of trading h might be worth considering.
So did the judge in Brady's case, he was told by his superiors that he was wrong; I'm sure this one will too.
Everyone is aware that it's going to be an uphill battle from here.
As I stated earlier, the bar for getting this TRO and Injunction is not as high as you thought.
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ourmanflint
Footballguy
Who cares? He's playing this year. That's all we wanted. It was a calculated risk that some of us (apparently not you) were willing to take and it paid off. Now its time to
theplayer11
Footballguy
actually the appeal was won 2-1...meaning 4 judges heard the case and they were split 2-2
ourmanflint
Footballguy
I'm in a league with almost all attorneys and they concur. Next year is another story
sho nuff
Footballguy
ffinmyblood
Footballguy
I have been playing Fantasy football for now 25 years and honestly reading threads like this, sicken me to no end, and will make it be my last year in FF, I don't like what it's become. We have people in here(no doubt a majority much younger than I), that are perfectly fine supporting(drafting etc) a player that beats a woman, and wants nothing more than to see suspensions over turned SIMPLY because it helps their Fantasy football team. That's quite frankly, disgusting. This is what society has become as a whole though...don't get your way...sue. Those of you with kids, especially younger one's...how can you look them in the eyes, and excitedly exclaim "Zeke gets to play, Zeke gets to play", all because it MIGHT help you win a few $$ playing FF?? Is that the lessons we really want to teach them?? If it is for you, your moral compasses are severly broken, and I hope you sleep well at night.
Back in the day, Ray Lewis was accused of murder, and was also the best defensive player in the league..that didn't mean ##### to me. There is no way I was drafting him, on principal alone. My motto was, and is...citizenship before championships. Absolutely disgusting what fantasy football has done to the younger generation.
Back in the day, Ray Lewis was accused of murder, and was also the best defensive player in the league..that didn't mean ##### to me. There is no way I was drafting him, on principal alone. My motto was, and is...citizenship before championships. Absolutely disgusting what fantasy football has done to the younger generation.
It's plenty high; a Texas judge ignored the law. Why do you think the NFLPA filed the suit in TX before they had legal standing to do so?
He's playing for now; the risk of not being available in ff playoffs is very real.Who cares? He's playing this year. That's all we wanted. It was a calculated risk that some of us (apparently not you) were willing to take and it paid off. Now its time to
joffer
Footballguy
The point I made was that it wasn't too high for him to get this injunction. Which you disagreed with.
This is exactly right; if the NFLPA is able to keep the case in TX, Zeke could be available all year. If the NFL gets it moved, he's likely out when you need him most.
The General
Footballguy
I'll draft the all criminal team. I'm that evil.
JAMES!
Footballguy
nittanylion
Footballguy
What would have to happen for the case to be moved out of Texas, and into a less Zeke-friendly venue, like New York?
