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This couldn't be more wrong lol. Gordon is leaving next year so they will run him into the ground.0% chance Melvin Gordon gets anything more than 50% of the touches with Chargers at any point this season (provided Ekeler stays healthy) .... Gordon will be gone next year & Chargers need to see if Ekeler can be "the man" for them moving forward.
Branson Wright
Yeah. I’m weary of it. But just reporting what I found in case it helps make a decision off the wire.
Saquon owner is dumb AND desperate. You stole from a child. Shame on you.My league is going to be hella mad if this is true. I just flipped Ekeler to an 0-3 team for Saquon yesterday, and there is already some noise about it
i summarized the tweet for you: "hearing gordon may report soon, FWIW". at least the guy from cleveland had some balls and gave a date.
agree, but the comment is purposely vague to allow for a gordon return at any point over the next few weeks
Florio has been on top of the Gordon and Zeke holdouts from the jump providing clear and well researched info about their options and implications of when they chose to report.
So what does he need to do, to be an UFA next year?"In order to hit free agency in 2020, Gordon needs an accrued season."
Play enough to not have his contract toll to next season . . . ie, roll over to next year because he didn't play enough games. He has enough accrued seasons to be a free agent . . . he just needs his contract with the Chargers to be done. That's what the discussion has been about . . . when would he need to report to get credit for fulfilling his contract.
He obviously doesn't need an accrued season because that ship has sailed. For an accrued season, he needed to show up by August 6.
No one knows for sure. The Galloway decision ruled that 8 games was enough (as applicable to Galloway) but some language in it seemed to indicate that one game would be enough. To be safe he'd have to be available for 8 games.
I forget where I saw it, but I read somewhere that a player only had to report and be available for half the season . . . meaning that if the Chargers wanted to file for a roster exemption it would not be held against the player. There certainly seems to be a lot of grey zone in all of this, but that's what one place had mentioned.
That early so that if the team placed a roster exemption on him, he could still be available for 8 games?
I have never been able to find the Joey Galloway grievance decision. Does anyone happen to have a link to it?
I think its silly to expect Gordon to be used as much as he was 2016-2018. He's probably not in game shape(even if he's in great shape, Zeke had the same issue) and Ekeler has excelled in his absence.
Gordon was a top 2 back before being injured last year. The chargers are trying to win and are 1-2. They will use their best RB alot.
Exactly. They can keep him exempt for three weeks while he rounds into game shape. Then they have to play him or, and this I am not certain about, IR him or something that would prevent him from playing this season.
And I wonder if that has any bearing on this situation. Could the Chargers have softened some on their "no negotiation" stance recently....behind the scenes?
They don't have to play him ever. They can make him a healthy scratch every week.
But they don't have to, right? They could make him active this week (if he reports today), or next week if he reports tomorrow or later. Then he could/would be active for 12-13 games. Much more than he needs to prevent his contract from tolling.
Right. I'd expect that to be what happens if he reports soon. If he reports before next Wednesday, I'd expect him to be active in Week 5 and to resume his normal role after maybe a week or so of adjustment.
Yes, he is top 2 on his team and will be used accordingly.
Not sure exactly what he was saying, but in my league (fairly standard, non PPR) Gordon was the #2 points per game fantasy RB after week 12. Behind Gurley, ahead of Barkley.
I'm not as optimistic about a week 5 return to action. A lot depends on his conditioning, of course a lot depends on the Chargers record as well but I'm gonna go out on a limb and chalk up this week as a W.
Last year, his "normal role" was about 19 touches per game. Two comments on that:
The exchange was about what the Chargers will do, i.e., real football, not fantasy football. In real football, Gordon is not close to a top 2 RB in the league, and he never has been.
SD's offense has not been clicking. They likely could use Ekeler more in the slot or moving around in space and Gordon in the backfield at the same time.
Sure, I agree they could do that. I would simply point out that the fact that their offense hasn't been very effective has had nothing at all to do with the RB play. Their RBs have played great. The problems are the OL, the TEs (with Henry hurt), and the WRs aside from Allen. Gordon returning doesn't fix any of those, and, in fact, could make the offense worse if the coaching staff decides to shift too many touches from Ekeler and Jackson to Gordon.
I wasn't really talking about tolling, just the fantasy angle of when he will have the ability to suit up.
Lol. You've made your opinion very clear that you think ekeler is some how better then Gordon. Last time I checked when you are the rb2 in fantasy your stats in real life are pretty good.
Your first comment I responded to said the Chargers are 1-2 and trying to win. What does that have to do with stats or fantasy football?
What are you using to determine that the rb play hasn’t been a problem this year? Is it possibly their....stats? Or is this simply a JWB eye test scenario?
Fair point, and well played. My objection is to referencing fantasy stats and attempting to correlate that to team decision-making on player usage.
Largely agree. Certainly agree on the first point about fantasy stats not always reflecting real life ability. I think Ekeler does stay the passing back but he ends up losing some receptions compared to what he’s getting now purely because he won’t be on the field as much. They want/need Melvin to pound between the tackles while also being a more than viable passing threat so he ends up with the bulk of the snaps once he’s in game shape. Ekeler averaged roughly 7 touches per game last year prior to Melvin’s injury. I think he ends up around 10 a game while Melvin settles in the 16-18 range.Fair point, and well played. My objection is to referencing fantasy stats and attempting to correlate that to team decision-making on player usage.
Ekeler is one of the best playmakers the Chargers have on their roster. That is shown by his stats, his PFF grade, the eye test, and whatever else you want to use. The Chargers are not in position to stop using him. I assume his rushing attempts (more than 12 per game) will drop as Gordon is reinserted, but they shouldn't drop to zero, and his usage in the passing game shouldn't drop at all, since he is clearly better in that phase than Gordon.
