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That's dumb by Miami and Gordon. Melvin can pick between teams who are in the hunt now, not 3 years away. Why if you're Miami would you pay a RB when you're not close/you can draft one in a deep RB draft?
In reality, the Dolphins need 2 RBs. So they could sign Gordon and draft someone. Nobody should pay him more than $5-6M per year.That's dumb by Miami and Gordon. Melvin can pick between teams who are in the hunt now, not 3 years away. Why if you're Miami would you pay a RB when you're not close/you can draft one in a deep RB draft?
Gaskins or Laird could serve as a 2nd RB, they're not devoid of talent. Also I've always liked drafting a young RB and signing a vet bruiser who can pass block; Frank Gore will be available and is cheap, same with Carlos Hyde.In reality, the Dolphins need 2 RBs. So they could sign Gordon and draft someone. Nobody should pay him more than $5-6M per year.
If you’re drafting/starting a rookie QB the last thing you want is another rookie back there, or some second rate talent that won’t take any pressure off.Gaskins or Laird could serve as a 2nd RB, they're not devoid of talent. Also I've always liked drafting a young RB and signing a vet bruiser who can pass block; Frank Gore will be available and is cheap, same with Carlos Hyde.
Exactly. If there's enough money to spend then it's going somewhere, either way. Certainly depends on cost, though. I don't think he's going to be a day 1 signing because he may still feel like he's worth more than teams will pay.If you’re drafting/starting a rookie QB the last thing you want is another rookie back there, or some second rate talent that won’t take any pressure off.
I don't think the dolphins veiw themselves as that far away. Rebuilds happen fast in the NFL. That division looking more vulnerable than it has in years.That's dumb by Miami and Gordon. Melvin can pick between teams who are in the hunt now, not 3 years away. Why if you're Miami would you pay a RB when you're not close/you can draft one in a deep RB draft?
I expect he'll sit on the market until he warms up to the idea of 5-7M per year on a 2 year deal. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with a 1 year prove-it deal at something like 4M.Think he's kicking himself just a little bit for not accepting the Chargers' alleged offer of $10 million per year (not sure how many years though)? He and/or his agent severely overvalued the market for RBs, particularly with so many good ones entering the rookie draft.
Jordan Howard just got 2 yr / 10 M, he's gotta at least do better than that. Unless he just won't take it for pride reasons.I expect he'll sit on the market until he warms up to the idea of 5-7M per year on a 2 year deal. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with a 1 year prove-it deal at something like 4M.
Not necessarily. Outside of Atlanta and maybe TB, there aren't many teams likely looking for a starting RB and prefer not to risk going the rookie route.Jordan Howard just got 2 yr / 10 M, he's gotta at least do better than that. Unless he just won't take it for pride reasons.
Coleman took 2 years and 10 mil late in free agency last year.....Gordon got bad advice from his agent, or himself for that matterzamboni said:Not necessarily. Outside of Atlanta and maybe TB, there aren't many teams likely looking for a starting RB and prefer not to risk going the rookie route.
It's all about supply and demand.
I can see this happening, much to the dismay of Singletary owners.Matt Parrino
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A source tells me the #Bills have spoken to Melvin Gordon's reps and there's interest on both sides. Stay tuned #BillsMafia. On the heels of the Stefon Diggs trade, adding Gordon would be something.
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Devin Singletary may never set Football Outsiders's new mark of worst athletic testing for an RB with the most tangible successes. Ahmad Bradshaw may retain that role.I can see this happening, much to the dismay of Singletary owners.
Favorite quote on him...."ran like he was angry at the ground"Devin Singletary may never set Football Outsiders's new mark of worst athletic testing for an RB with the most tangible successes. Ahmad Bradshaw may retain that role.
New York Upstate reports the Bills are interested in free agent RB Melvin Gordon.
Gordon has been greeted by a frigid market, but the Bills remain one of the league's most run-committed teams. The Bills never seemed completely sold on tackle-breaker Devin Singletary as a rookie, but they did ramp up his workloads down the stretch. For what it's worth, NFL Network's Mike Garafolo has reported Gordon is unlikely to land in Buffalo.
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Mar 19, 2020, 5:59 PM ET
Everybody needs a backup. Singletary showed a lot more last year than Gordon did so I'm not sure Gordon and his agent would want an honest competition in that backfield.Singletary truthers would say this is a smoke screen and Singletary is the man
So what you are saying is if Gordon was in a situation where almost any NFL RB would succeed, you can see Gordon succeeding? I agree with that.tommyGunZ said:I’d love to see Gordon in an offense with an excellent OLine. He’s not a creator, but he can be dynamic when given room. He’s better than his numbers IMO, due to playing behind such bad lines his entire Charger career.
On the flipside, how many RBs do you think would be successful behind the Chargers O-line?So what you are saying is if Gordon was in a situation where almost any NFL RB would succeed, you can see Gordon succeeding? I agree with that.
Gordon should be doing whatever he can to go to TampaOn the flipside, how many RBs do you think would be successful behind the Chargers O-line?
Comparatively? I know for a fact Austin Ekeler. I'm guessing several that are worth $14mil/season.On the flipside, how many RBs do you think would be successful behind the Chargers O-line?
Gurley also has his Rams contract with guaranteed money on it so he didn't need to break the bank on this contract.Gurley just got a one year deal with the Falcons. Gordon needs to keep his demands in check.
Fair point, although the market is the market and I doubt that prospective teams looking at Gordon's relative value will take Gurley's financial situation into account.Gurley also has his Rams contract with guaranteed money on it so he didn't need to break the bank on this contract.
Yup.Fair point, although the market is the market and I doubt that prospective teams looking at Gordon's relative value will take Gurley's financial situation into account.
Ekeler (career 4.8 ypc on 285 carries) and Justin Jackson (career 5.1 ypc on 79 carries) have been successful over the past 2-3 seasons. Granted, those are small sample sizes compared to Gordon, but they have both been better than Gordon behind the same OL.On the flipside, how many RBs do you think would be successful behind the Chargers O-line?
Yup...pretty simple one here...the Gordon camp could not have screwed this up more...that $ is gone...he will never, ever get that back...he had a chance for a very good contract as far as RBs go and they let ego get in the way.Yup.
Gordon should have taken the deal from LA last season. His agent is a moron.
At what point will these RBs and their agents understand that the world has changed?Yup...pretty simple one here...the Gordon camp could not have screwed this up more...that $ is gone...he will never, ever get that back...he had a chance for a very good contract as far as RBs go and they let ego get in the way.
I think Zeke, Gurley, Bell and Freeman gave them hope that things were changing but right now Gurley and Freeman have been cut and it appears the Jets regretted the Bell signing about three weeks into the season...Zeke is the only one left standing and he is a H-o-F level back but even he has a few years left before the Cowboys know it won't backfire...RBs need to get that legit contract as fast as they can because they may only have one opportunity to get it don't haggle for a few million because it could cost you 20 million.At what point will these RBs and their agents understand that the world has changed?
I think you’re right Gordon was prob mistakenly encouraged by the Zeke contractI think Zeke, Gurley, Bell and Freeman gave them hope that things were changing but right now Gurley and Freeman have been cut and it appears the Jets regretted the Bell signing about three weeks into the season...Zeke is the only one left standing and he is a H-o-F level back but even he has a few years left before the Cowboys know it won't backfire...RBs need to get that legit contract as fast as they can because they may only have one opportunity to get it don't haggle for a few million because it could cost you 20 million.
Dallas should be regretting the Zeke contract too. They did a very nice job being able to keep Dak and Cooper, and even sneak some solid vets like Ha Ha, but Elliott's contract perhaps prevented a long term deal for Dak, or a CB replacement for Jones, although they were right not to pay him what Miami gave.I think Zeke, Gurley, Bell and Freeman gave them hope that things were changing but right now Gurley and Freeman have been cut and it appears the Jets regretted the Bell signing about three weeks into the season...Zeke is the only one left standing and he is a H-o-F level back but even he has a few years left before the Cowboys know it won't backfire...RBs need to get that legit contract as fast as they can because they may only have one opportunity to get it don't haggle for a few million because it could cost you 20 million.
Seems like its only one report, so hardly confirmed yet.Thought he was coming to Buffalo. Oh well
Per a few tweets, supposedly finalizing a deal with a team right now. Have seen a few reports it is Denver.
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Sources tell me Melvin Gordon is close to finalizing a deal with the Denver Broncos.
Agree with a lot of what you say but totally disagree with about not calling Zeke H-o-F worthy at this point in his career...he is 24 and look at the stats...they are on the path to being H-o-f worthy and maybe that is a better way to phrase it but there is zero doubt he an elite level RB...now whether you need an elite level back to win championships in the NFL is a totally different discussion.Dallas should be regretting the Zeke contract too. They did a very nice job being able to keep Dak and Cooper, and even sneak some solid vets like Ha Ha, but Elliott's contract perhaps prevented a long term deal for Dak, or a CB replacement for Jones, although they were right not to pay him what Miami gave.
I wouldn't call Zeke a HOF level RB. He's in the perfect situation for RB production. Has he really been better than what DeMarco Murray was? More durable sure, but better? If Dallas were to swap Zeke for Gordon(for instance since its his thread)I think its likely the on field difference wouldn't be noticeable.
The difference between the best RB, and replacement level, is smaller than it is at any position. I truly think a team could be fine at RB, never investing anything more than a day 3 pick at RB, and never signing a guy to a 2nd contract. These smaller contracts and dumping of larger contracts, are just teams finally realizing how little value the position has.