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Official Ameer Abdullah - The Bandwagon (2 Viewers)
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Banger
Footballguy
definite smoke IMO... certainly enough of a reason to try and pick up his backup in the event he is out month to month or longer. Sometimes you have to try and read the tea leaves with incomplete information and this is one of those situations where the cost is low but upside could be decent.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Exactly - if you wait until the diagnosis, you sometimes get beat by the crowd. Paralysis by analysis. if you make the claim on speculation that it's worst case, and it turns out to be worst case, great. If you don't, not a big loss so long as you didn't dump anything critical for him.
Assuming it's Lis Franc or AIDs or a foot amputation is all extreme at this point, yes, but I agree that a trip to the specialist is a very, very bad sign.
In fantasy sports terms Dr Anderson = Dr Andrews = Dr Kevorkian.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I won't even get into a lesson on what x-rays show and don't show. and what a lis franc is and what it isn't.
But what I will say is when x-rays come back negative do they often send people to specialists? Is Sam Bradford seeing a hand specialist this week? No. The visit to a specific foot specialist is a huge huge deal. If you don't think so that's fine. My medical background in this type of thing, sports medicine, leads me down the path to this is really not a good thing for him.
FWIW I've been right very often when it comes to things like this in the past
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Warhogs
Footballguy
This is what I was trying to clear up. I don't want to make light of the injury because it may indeed be a long term deal but at this point most everything is speculation. The speculation was muddying the waters between what is information released and what was speculation.
Fox Scream
Footballguy
So he comes back in time for playoffs against a bunch of snake bitten defenses? Sweet.
I can afford to waste a roster space until then, hope he gets dropped in all my leagues. RB are a premium that late in the year, just ask Tim Hightower.
I can afford to waste a roster space until then, hope he gets dropped in all my leagues. RB are a premium that late in the year, just ask Tim Hightower.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I don't. Tomorrow would be best. You can at least make a cheap claim on Washington tonight. If bad news comes out you're paying a LOT more for Washington
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Chaka
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
I think the Bell news is worse for Abdullah than Riddick & Washington.
Why even bring him in if Abdullah was only going to miss a few weeks? I'm thinking it's for depth, and out of all the options out there, Bell makes the most sense.
Why even bring him in if Abdullah was only going to miss a few weeks? I'm thinking it's for depth, and out of all the options out there, Bell makes the most sense.
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habsfan
Footballguy
I am pulling the trigger on Washington because my situation necessitates taking action. I might even come in after waivers and try to scoop up Bell. It's a significant opportunity cost because I have 1st waiver priority but as the saying goes, "Buy on rumour, sell on fact"...
GoBirds
Footballguy
Is anyone besides Abdullah owners going after Washington, hoping a bid of a few $ gets him? If Bell comes in do you go after another back instead?
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I'm hoping to drop Foster for Washington. I'm 3 on the waiver order. I already have Ajayi. I want rid of Foster in a bad way.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Chris Thompson is on my ww and I'm in a ppr league. I think I'm going to go for him as my top add. I figure Thompson might get a lot of receptions going against the Giants.
Washington was my top add but them bringing in Bell makes me wonder how much of a mess this backfield may be. Bell isn't signed yet so maybe they were just kicking the tires. But I need someone to start this week and Thompson may fit the bill
TZMarkie
Footballguy
Much as I hated to do it, I cut Abdullah earlier after waivers opened in one specific league.
In said league I did NOT have Riddick (one league I have Riddick I am holding both).
In the league where I dropped Abdullah, I am essentially LOADED , and he wasn't going to be anywhere near my starting lineup, and I think we are looking at a 3 week absence at a minimum. So it is a scenario where I will likely never start him, PLUS its essentially a wasted bench spot.
So then the question is, who did I pick up?
Well I take long shot dart throws on my 6th+ RB, so I tend to gamble. In this case, I "gambled" with the highest ceiling. I picked up DEVONTAE BOOKER. If I am going to gamble, I do so with the very high upside. Booker could well turn out to be a league winner if the cards fall just right.
Look at the massive workload CJ Anderson is currently getting, and that guy has never exactly been a bastion of health. If CJ goes down, he will be a must own.
I tend to look at Abdullah currently, as only a "must own" if you happened to have Riddick too. This business of going to see a foot specialist, is just not good. It screams of a multi-week absence, and bench spots are too precious at this point in the season.
I was high on AA this year, but i just wasn't meant to be at this point I guess.
In my biggest league, I am debating on dropping Ameer Abdullah for Jordan Howard. I am a little bit more "RB needy" there, and its a real decision. I lost Woodhead in that league, but I do have Melvin Gordon, LeSean McCoy, Rashad Jennings, Ameer Abdullah, Tevin Coleman and a freshly acquired Booker. (and I am not big on LeSean McCoy anymore, his schedule looks bad)
Hopefully my views and choices on Abdullah may give some others some context, on how some of us are dealing with this scenario. Its a tough call on him, hopefully we have some more clarity today or a word from the specialist.
If its deemed to be a 6 week absence, I am cutting him and moving on.
TZM
In said league I did NOT have Riddick (one league I have Riddick I am holding both).
In the league where I dropped Abdullah, I am essentially LOADED , and he wasn't going to be anywhere near my starting lineup, and I think we are looking at a 3 week absence at a minimum. So it is a scenario where I will likely never start him, PLUS its essentially a wasted bench spot.
So then the question is, who did I pick up?
Well I take long shot dart throws on my 6th+ RB, so I tend to gamble. In this case, I "gambled" with the highest ceiling. I picked up DEVONTAE BOOKER. If I am going to gamble, I do so with the very high upside. Booker could well turn out to be a league winner if the cards fall just right.
Look at the massive workload CJ Anderson is currently getting, and that guy has never exactly been a bastion of health. If CJ goes down, he will be a must own.
I tend to look at Abdullah currently, as only a "must own" if you happened to have Riddick too. This business of going to see a foot specialist, is just not good. It screams of a multi-week absence, and bench spots are too precious at this point in the season.
I was high on AA this year, but i just wasn't meant to be at this point I guess.
In my biggest league, I am debating on dropping Ameer Abdullah for Jordan Howard. I am a little bit more "RB needy" there, and its a real decision. I lost Woodhead in that league, but I do have Melvin Gordon, LeSean McCoy, Rashad Jennings, Ameer Abdullah, Tevin Coleman and a freshly acquired Booker. (and I am not big on LeSean McCoy anymore, his schedule looks bad)
Hopefully my views and choices on Abdullah may give some others some context, on how some of us are dealing with this scenario. Its a tough call on him, hopefully we have some more clarity today or a word from the specialist.
If its deemed to be a 6 week absence, I am cutting him and moving on.
TZM
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bostonfred
Footballguy
Sirius reporting the lions have placed abdullah on injured reserve
spider321
Footballguy
Not necessarily these days.
I think it works so that one guy per team can come back to practice after 6 weeks, and play after 8 weeks.
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bostonfred
Footballguy
From wikipedia
Starting in 2012, the NFL and the NFLPA reached an agreement allowing one player placed on injured reserve to be brought back to the active roster.[3] Provided that the player was on the final 53-man preseason roster (A rule exempted for the 2012 season), and that the injury is deemed to keep this player unable to practice or play football for an estimated six weeks, the player may be allowed to practice after Week 6, and be activated to play after Week 8.[4]
Warhogs
Footballguy
I don't believe we have heard exactly what the injury is yet but clearly a multiple week injury. This backfield continues to be murky. Riddick will certainly catch a lot of passes and do some running. Washington will get used some. I know Bell visited, I don't know if he signed, but he had been the lead dog the past couple of years so you figure he could come in and see a fair amount of playing time right away. I think if you are investing in this backfield you can get some touches but I doubt there will be any fantasy gold.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
As a new Washington owner, Bell does not concern me. Riddick does. Riddick is definitely going to get most of the receiving work and he should. Maybe Detroit will lean on Riddick even more for carries as well. In today's RBBC NFL, Washington should get a chance to show what he can do in the upcoming weeks. It is his early down RB job to lose. Just my humble opinion of course.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
shefter's tweet was odd... he used the phrase out for the year... which i have to guess is a misspeak given the new IR rules? or perhaps he is getting info abdullah actually is done for the year. needless to say im dropping him because i'd rather carry dion lewis in my IR slot
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Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Damn... This reeks of Jahvid Best part 2.
now that we know abdullah is gone long term, i'm much mre on board with washington as a nice RB stash. IMO riddick isnt built to be a 20 touch per game back... he too is likely to get hurt which would put washington in line for nice fantasy production
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I grabbed Washington in both leagues - drafted Riddick in one. Feels pretty lucky as that's the league I lose Foster for a week or 3 in. Hopefully Riddick takes the job and runs with it (no pun intended) or Washington - either way I hope they settle on one dude. For now they're saying it's Riddick, but this is the Lions we're talking about here...
sho nuff
Footballguy
Have Riddick in PPR as depth. Still not sure how great any of them are in non-ppr. Even PPR it looks like emergency level only for me.
Banger
Footballguy
A funny aside...just got done watching an Amazon prime show called All or Nothing which followed the Cards through the whole year. Great show for those that haven't watched it and have Prime... in the first episode it shows the Cards war room and they were dead set on drafting Abdullah....the pick right before them the Lions took him...they were absolutely crushed but decided to go with Plan B and draft David Johnson later in the draft. Funny how things work out sometimes....
Henry Ford
Footballguy
But if you're the Lions, do you bring back Abdullah? Or Bostic? I have to think Bostic is the play.
Hu-Tang Clan
Footballguy
Don't they have to actually designate whether the player is eligible to return when they place him on IR?
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I did this dance with Jahvid Best a few years ago, so I cut him. Hopefully that decision will be vindicated when Bostic is reactivated
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
New rule passed in March that you can make the designation on the back end instead of when they are placed on the IR. Still have to have been on IR 6 weeks and eligible to come off 2 weeks after designated to return, so the minimum AA will be out is 8 weeks. No guarantee he'll be back this year but they have that flexibility. Under the previous rule, when they place him on the IR they would have had to make the call immediately if it was season ending or designated to return this season.
Milkman
Footballguy
mcintyre1
Footballguy
The big difference for me between Best and Abdullah is that Best's career ended because of multiple, very bad concussions. Before coming to the NFL, Abdullah was an iron man. His only injury was an MCL sprain that knocked him out of a game and which he returned from after a bye week for the next game. The off season shoulder injury was his first ever injury requiring a surgery, as far as I'm aware. Frustrating that they're not saying what the injury is this time.
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