Wow, in a morbid way that would have been awesome if it hit the ref. Wonder how bad the punishment would have been for that.perfect crossMissed the Cesc red card. Legit?
Loved this. Great showing by the away fans today as usual.All you need to know about what it is to be a Chelsea fan is this chant.
Nice write up. interesting to see how some fans picked their teams.Bender,
you sound like me last off-season. Let me give you my story of my first season as a big soccer fan.
First off, I knew I had one shot at sticking with a new sport, I had to develop a passion for one team. If I was a casual fan, I'd probably drop it. So I came to these boards, and got everyone to give me their "pitch" on why I should go for their team.
I chose Liverpool because they were a young, exciting, attacking team (they had Suarez and Sturridge). I watched highlights, fell in love, and then saw some of their players (Suarez) light it up in the World Cup. Then Suarez bit that dude, got sold, ten new players came in, and they proceeded to have one of the most inept offenses I've ever seen. (of course, I've not seen a lot) They couldn't score, and had perhaps the worst set of strikers in the EPL, as Sturridge basically missed the whole year.
So my advice is not to pick a team based on current players, because that will change.
That being said, here are a few factors to think about:
1. I'd go with Premier League. The blogs and the websites and the message boards are in English. Very important when trying to instill a "love" for the team.
2. Pick a team that has a chance to compete financially. Unfortunately, that only leaves you with about 5 teams, possibly 6.
In my personal opinion, ManU has the brightest future, though I detest them. Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City are all great teams as well.
Liverpool is a struggle for one reason: They are perhaps the 8th or 9th richest club in the world (recently I saw where they had the 6th highest net worth), but they currently are fifth in the EPL, and there are only 4 CL spots. Every time they don't make the CL, the gap grows a little bit.
So it's tough for Liverpool.
I'm 100% in now, and i wouldn't want to go back. I can't say that the future is bright, but I do think that when Liverpool does turn it around and win the EPL, the fans are going to go crazy. so much history, the YNWA song, the chants, the passion....I think Liverpool is the best team in England by far, in terms of fan experience.
The downside to picking Liverpool is that you very easily could be in for a lot of heart break. Last year at this time, Liverpool fans were pumped about the future, as it was a young and exciting team.
Now we are all antsy, as we are worried about being outspent this summer, and cementing ourselves in the 5th place spot.
I'm of the optimistic sort, and I think that we have a young base of players that can fight and make top four next year, with the right summer additions.
My opinions for a new fan:
ManU: Pick them if you don't mind the Yankees, a team that will spend to win
Chelsea: Boring team, but amazing manager. The team people love to hate. Think the Ravens
Man City: Rich owners, no history. The rich owners part is pretty important, obviously. Since you can be a part of "creating" history, a good choice
Arsenal: I'd say Arsenal has a great chance of being the EPL team of the next decade. I don't know why, i just feel they are on the upswing.
Liverpool: Best history of the group, great fans, unique atmosphere, but the fifth wheel hoping to break into the top four. It could be a bad place to be longterm.
Chelsea never really had a great run the second half yet more or less coasted to the title, so I agree it was a somewhat boring year in the end due to the failure of any other club to make a serious challenge. CFC broke Man United's record for most consecutive weeks at #1 in a PL season, essentially by taking care of business early then holding serve. There were no big, must-win games for Chelsea this season, particularly the big matches down the stretch. After today's loss, Chelsea still has only 3 PL losses and just 4 losses across all competitions, despite going out weakly to PSG in the CL. I expected a great competitive season, perhaps next year will be better.Good Posting Judge said:Is it me or did the Prem kind of stink this year? Chelsea's obviously the best team of the bunch, but they don't seem so dominating that they should be able to run off with the title the way they did.
Truth is, most of the leagues lacked drama this year. German league was wrapped up weeks ago. Juventus ran away with Serie A early. Only La Liga had some tense moments, and even then it was Barca and Real down the stretch again.Chelsea never really had a great run the second half yet more or less coasted to the title, so I agree it was a somewhat boring year in the end due to the failure of any other club to make a serious challenge. CFC broke Man United's record for most consecutive weeks at #1 in a PL season, essentially by taking care of business early then holding serve. There were no big, must-win games for Chelsea this season, particularly the big matches down the stretch. After today's loss, Chelsea still has only 3 PL losses and just 4 losses across all competitions, despite going out weakly to PSG in the CL. I expected a great competitive season, perhaps next year will be better.Good Posting Judge said:Is it me or did the Prem kind of stink this year? Chelsea's obviously the best team of the bunch, but they don't seem so dominating that they should be able to run off with the title the way they did.
I don't understand why they don't address this. There's a simple solution. No one approaches the ref except the players involved in the incident and team captains. Anyone else gets a yellow.I finally saw Cesc's red card and I fn loved everything about it. Honestly, the players crowding the ref shtick deserves more balls to the head
Love me some ClaudeCletiusMaximus said:Arsenal TV's favorite fan Claude on boring Chelsea --> https://vine.co/v/emEKl0uxVdl
Yup, they have done a nice job so far, from a financial stand point.Thanks shader
Chelsea offered me 5 figures and a spokesperson deal (for Skoal) to root for them.
I'm already spoken for now.
(but seriously, nice write up).
What team does Fenway Sports Group Own, Liverpool? I'm inclined to go with them as a Sox fan
Liverpool fans aren't enamored with FSG, at least those on the message boards.Yup, they have done a nice job so far, from a financial stand point.Thanks shader
Chelsea offered me 5 figures and a spokesperson deal (for Skoal) to root for them.
I'm already spoken for now.
(but seriously, nice write up).
What team does Fenway Sports Group Own, Liverpool? I'm inclined to go with them as a Sox fan
Well, fan message boards aren't always a good place to go for a balanced view.Liverpool fans aren't enamored with FSG, at least those on the message boards.Yup, they have done a nice job so far, from a financial stand point.Thanks shader
Chelsea offered me 5 figures and a spokesperson deal (for Skoal) to root for them.
I'm already spoken for now.
(but seriously, nice write up).
What team does Fenway Sports Group Own, Liverpool? I'm inclined to go with them as a Sox fan
But I think they'd done a good job of turning things around and making the team a lucrative franchise, as well as funding s pretty large stadium expansion.
Liverpool is a good team to root for, but I can see that the forums are full of frustrated fans who are sick of being behind the top four. Tough place for a proud organization.
So awesome by the away fans yesterday, down 3-0 and that was all I could hear start to finish the entire secomd half.And don't forget "We won the cup". Because, you know, we won the cup.
Welcome Bender.
I actually thought it was the West Brom fans given how how loud they were. Pretty cool.So awesome by the away fans yesterday, down 3-0 and that was all I could hear start to finish the entire secomd half.And don't forget "We won the cup". Because, you know, we won the cup.
Welcome Bender.
IMO, it's a matter of players wanting to prove themselves among the world's best. I wouldn't begrudge Sterling for wanting to prove he can play at Real, though I'm not sure really how he'd fit there. It's like when Robin van Persie wanted to leave Arsenal to go to Man U. Did it suck? Of course it sucked. But can you blame him for wanting to play among the world's true best? Liverpool is a good team; Real is an elite team.More Raheem Sterling drama.
sterling maybe if you didn't quit the last two months of the season, Liverpool would be in the CL next year.
Let's see, you are 20 years old and start every game in the EPL. In the past two years you have played for England in the WC, been in a tight EPL race that went down to the wire, made it to Wembley for an FA cup semifinal, played in the champions league, and even played in a couple Europa league games. Won the golden boy award.
Yeah it would be a smart decision to force your way off Liverpool, so that you can get 15-20 games a year for Real Madrid and have the press eat you alive when you kick one of your patented "power of a ten year old boy" strikes wide of goal.
I don't know how someone can just pick a team to support, but to anyone in that position, if you're considering a club with a "for profits" owner and a club with a "for trophies" owner, I'd recommend the latter.
As a lifelong Milwaukee Brewers fan, I've never said to myself, "we haven't been in the World Series since 1982, but we've got a really nice stadium and financial stability!"
Honestly, highly doubt I'll pick a squad.Don't pick a team that wins all the time. It's a sign of low character.
I think soccer fans bring up financial stability often as a sign that <insert club here> isn't going to just flop and go into administration or sell-off their entire team. If the bottom does fall out, somehow, on a worldwide level, there are some teams who are certainly in a better position than others to withstand the storm. Think about Rangers, Leeds, Portsmouth (lol)....all teams with success shattered by financial woes. Leeds were a top 5 team in the EPL from 1997 through 2002, went into administration in 2007, and now middle in the Championship. If someone were looking at teams in 2000, they may very well have picked Leeds as their team.I don't know how someone can just pick a team to support, but to anyone in that position, if you're considering a club with a "for profits" owner and a club with a "for trophies" owner, I'd recommend the latter.
As a lifelong Milwaukee Brewers fan, I've never said to myself, "we haven't been in the World Series since 1982, but we've got a really nice stadium and financial stability!"
This is the official who's a fan of what team(s) post. As many teams/leagues as you want to put in here.
International
United States - everyone (probably?)
Argentina - Sebowski, otello, Gianmarco, DiStefano
Bolivia - Sebowski
Brazil - Desert Power, Z's wife, Abrantes, SmoovySmoov, Corporation
Canada - Polsonov?
Chile - BassNBrew
Croatia - kblitz
Denmark - Major
Ecuador - Sand
Egypt - Jmon
England - SmoovySmoov, AAABatteries, Txns8, theprince, T Bell, Charvik, Jonessed, Christo, Corporation
Faroe Islands - Steve Tasker, Roadkill
Germany - Mjolnirs, eagles2007, editor47, Bonzai, Short Corner, Corporation, Fariq, Bierfiend, Jayrod
Ireland - PIK95
Italy - Steve Tasker, Texas Football, otello, Boubucarow, Gianmarco, Kafka
Japan - SmoovySmoov
Netherlands - MrPhoenix, AAABatteries, Major, Abraham
Nigeria - Eephus
Portugal - Gator
Serbia - Vipers
Spain - Sebowski, Kansas Comet, Z Machine, The Reytheist, Good Posting Judge, ilov80s
Trinidad & Tobago - Fariq
Turkey - Steve Tasker
Venezuela - Z's wife, Z Machine
Wales - Jonessed
England
EPL
Arsenal - Steve Tasker, Sebowski, Z's wife, Brewer, Vipers, Major, Sparty, Jmon, Scoobygang, The Reytheist, T Bell, The Hardline, Tom Hagen
Chelsea - Native (pre-Abramovich), Cletius Maximus, Eephus Jr., Tremendous Upside, Jaysus, Premier
Everton - Senor Schmutzig, eagles2007
Hull - QuizGuy66
Liverpool - MrPhoenix, Bentley, Kendall, SmoovySmoov, editor47, Gator, PIK95, Texas Football, Sleeping King, jplvr, theprince, wdcrob, Charvik, Gianmarco
Manchester City - editor47, Derek, TitusIII, NYCelt, whoknew
Manchester United - B Maverick, AAABatteries, JuniorNB, Bonzai, AcerFC, Txns8, Ted Lange as your Bartender, Ursa M
Newcastle - Polsonov, Z Machine
Queen's Park Rangers - Christo, Bentley
Southampton - GoFishTN
Sunderland - Gianmarco
Swansea - Good Posting Judge, Jaysus, Autumn Wind
Tottenham - GoFishTN, Jonessed, jplvr, LHUCKS, Sinn Fein
WBA - Steve Tasker
"Big 4 + any team with an American" - El Floppo
Championship
Blackpool - Jonessed, Otello
Bolton - berndog
Brighton & Hove Albion - Txns8
Derby County - Gator
Ipswich Town - Texas Football, Sparty
Wolves - Boubucarow, theprince
Football League Two
AFC Wimbledon - Eephus
Northern Premier League, Premier Division
FC United of Manchester - otello
Spain
La Liga
Atletico Madrid - Z Machine
Barcelona - Desert Power, Sebowski, Kansas Comet, Jmon, The Reytheist, otello, Good Posting Judge, Sinn Fein, ilov80s
Real Madrid - Z's wife, Derek
Sevilla - Kansas Comet
Segunda Division
Real Zaragoza - Kafka
Italy
Serie A
Inter - El Floppo, Texas Football
Fiorentina - Gianmarco
Juventus - Boubucarow
Milan - Soulfly3, Gianmarco
Napoli - Z Machine
Roma - Sebowski, Good Posting Judge, Charvik, Kafka, The Hardline
Udinese - eagles2007
Serie C1
Ascoli - otello
Germany
Bundesliga
Bayern Munchen - Mjolnirs, Short Corner, Sparty, The Hardline
Borussia Dortmund - eagles2007, editor47, Boubucarow, SmoovySmoov, Z Machine, Sinn Fein
Eintracht Frankfurt - Eephus
VfB Stuttgart - kblitz
2. Bundesliga
1. FC Nurnberg - Bonzai
FC Kaiserslautern - Charvik
FC St. Pauli - Christo
Scotland
Scottish Premiership
Celtic - walnutz, PIK95, NYCelt
Scottish Championship
Hearts - Steve Tasker, Donsmith753
Rangers - Senor Schmutzig
USA
MLS
Chicago Fire - Senor Schmutzig, Vipers, Christo, Boubucarow
Columbus Crew - Bonzai, Derek
DC United - walnutz, Jmon, wdcrob
FC Dallas - Txns8, The Hardline
Houston Dynamo - Txns8, whoknew
LA Galaxy - Kansas Comet, Z Machine, The Reytheist
New England Revolution - andy b, PIK95
New York Red Bulls - JuniorNB, El Floppo, AcerFC
Philadelphia Union - Z's wife, eagles2007, editor47, Ted Lange as your Bartender, otello, Jaysus, Autumn Wind
San Jose Earthquakes - Good Posting Judge
Seattle Sounders - Vipers, SmoovySmoov
Toronto FC - Steve Tasker
NASL
Carolina Railhawks - walnutz
USL Professional Division
Charleston Battery - Mjolnirs, walnutz, Desert Power
Harrisburg City Islanders - Jaysus
Argentina
Boca Juniors - Steve Tasker, walnutz, El Floppo
Newell's Old Boys - Z Machine
River Plate - Z's wife
Mexico
Chivas Guadalajara - Z Machine
Tijuana Xolos - Sebowski
UNAM Pumas - Z's wife
Croatia
Hajduk Split - kblitz
Brazil
Botafogo - Z Machine
Flamengo - Abrantes, Sebowski
Egypt
Al-Ahly - Jmon
Turkey
Besiktas - Good Posting Judge
Fenerbahce - Steve Tasker
Serbia
Red Star Belgrade - Sparty
I remember thinking Eddie (and the US) had really made it- getting to sign for a "big" squad like Leeds. linkI think soccer fans bring up financial stability often as a sign that <insert club here> isn't going to just flop and go into administration or sell-off their entire team. If the bottom does fall out, somehow, on a worldwide level, there are some teams who are certainly in a better position than others to withstand the storm. Think about Rangers, Leeds, Portsmouth (lol)....all teams with success shattered by financial woes. Leeds were a top 5 team in the EPL from 1997 through 2002, went into administration in 2007, and now middle in the Championship. If someone were looking at teams in 2000, they may very well have picked Leeds as their team.I don't know how someone can just pick a team to support, but to anyone in that position, if you're considering a club with a "for profits" owner and a club with a "for trophies" owner, I'd recommend the latter.
As a lifelong Milwaukee Brewers fan, I've never said to myself, "we haven't been in the World Series since 1982, but we've got a really nice stadium and financial stability!"
Side note, I remember when I first started getting FIFA video games, I used to like to play as Leeds every so often because they had Eddie Lewis on the team.
fwiw,Bender - if it matters, here's a list of who's a fan of what teams.
I wondered if you'd notice I dropped the Faroes in there.HUP FAROE!
Tasker, I should also be listed for Southampton and Senegal. You're doing god's work with this.
edit: Oh, and Brighton and Hove effing Albion.
I understand that to a degree. I can't begrudge Suarez for leaving to go play with Neymar and Messi. Not Liverpool, or any other Premier League club was going to give him that opportunity. But Suarez was an established superstar.IMO, it's a matter of players wanting to prove themselves among the world's best. I wouldn't begrudge Sterling for wanting to prove he can play at Real, though I'm not sure really how he'd fit there. It's like when Robin van Persie wanted to leave Arsenal to go to Man U. Did it suck? Of course it sucked. But can you blame him for wanting to play among the world's true best? Liverpool is a good team; Real is an elite team.More Raheem Sterling drama.
sterling maybe if you didn't quit the last two months of the season, Liverpool would be in the CL next year.
Let's see, you are 20 years old and start every game in the EPL. In the past two years you have played for England in the WC, been in a tight EPL race that went down to the wire, made it to Wembley for an FA cup semifinal, played in the champions league, and even played in a couple Europa league games. Won the golden boy award.
Yeah it would be a smart decision to force your way off Liverpool, so that you can get 15-20 games a year for Real Madrid and have the press eat you alive when you kick one of your patented "power of a ten year old boy" strikes wide of goal.
BEAT ANDORRA!!!I wondered if you'd notice I dropped the Faroes in there.HUP FAROE!
Tasker, I should also be listed for Southampton and Senegal. You're doing god's work with this.
edit: Oh, and Brighton and Hove effing Albion.
I want to agree with this, but I'm not sure I can. The EPL is such a different animal from American sports. If you don't pick a team at, or near, the top, you're probably going to lose interest quick.Don't pick a team that wins all the time. It's a sign of low character.
Well, sadly this was what happened to Liverpool. Hicks and Gillett bought the club in 2007, and after just 3 years had it on the brink of administration. In 2010, when FSG came in, the club had a reported debt of 450M pounds, that's just insane being 5 years removed from Istanbul and the additional revenue that brought. Had FSG not come in, I would be supporting a club in league 3 now, with a very long road ahead to return.I think soccer fans bring up financial stability often as a sign that <insert club here> isn't going to just flop and go into administration or sell-off their entire team. If the bottom does fall out, somehow, on a worldwide level, there are some teams who are certainly in a better position than others to withstand the storm. Think about Rangers, Leeds, Portsmouth (lol)....all teams with success shattered by financial woes. Leeds were a top 5 team in the EPL from 1997 through 2002, went into administration in 2007, and now middle in the Championship. If someone were looking at teams in 2000, they may very well have picked Leeds as their team.I don't know how someone can just pick a team to support, but to anyone in that position, if you're considering a club with a "for profits" owner and a club with a "for trophies" owner, I'd recommend the latter.
As a lifelong Milwaukee Brewers fan, I've never said to myself, "we haven't been in the World Series since 1982, but we've got a really nice stadium and financial stability!"
Side note, I remember when I first started getting FIFA video games, I used to like to play as Leeds every so often because they had Eddie Lewis on the team.
I don't think you have to. Even if you pick a middling side or a perennial relegation candidate, you still have 38 games a year (at least). Pretty much everybody I know have picked teams for emotional reasons, that has little to do with the results in any given year. It could be family tradition, liking a certain player, liking the city itself, knowing somebody, liking the kit, liking the style of play.I want to agree with this, but I'm not sure I can. The EPL is such a different animal from American sports. If you don't pick a team at, or near, the top, you're probably going to lose interest quick.Don't pick a team that wins all the time. It's a sign of low character.
If that the criteria, then Arsenal is the team for you!Don't pick a team that wins all the time. It's a sign of low character.
Never gets old or not funny.Tottenham - GoFishTN, Jonessed, jplvr, LHUCKS, Sinn Fein
charv - When in our lifetime has this not been the case? Other than MLS perhaps with a single owner structure, where and when was a league title not the direct result of the champion's financial superiority over he majority of the opposition? I'm sure there are a handful of examples, but I'm not aware of any since I've been following Euro football - mid 80s.In today's football world, finances and trophies go hand in hand.
Wow. Thought he was going to EPLBREAKING: Jürgen Klopp has agreed to join Real Madrid next season in a deal worth €8M per-year. [Radio Deutschland]
Unless something changed, I believe this is how it works for Scotland.Speaking of Rangers... am I reading it right that four teams will be promoted next year, and Rangers will return to the SPL?