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Poke_4_Life said:
NewlyRetired said:
B Maverick said:
Just saw a report on BR stating that according to AS, Pirlo is set to join NYCFC

Its on my app but I cant find it BR's online site.

ETA found this: http://mlsgb.com/2015/06/03/nycfcs-third-dp-on-the-way-andrea-pirlo-accepts-offer/
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This has been circulating for weeks now. Both the Spanish and Italian media have said it is either done or close to done. But no word from anyone inside of MLS.

If he does go to NYCFC, that should allow him and Lampard to have a blast in the midfield and push Mix way up the field close to Villa who needs some help in the worst way.

Pirlo could play 3 years in MLS. He has not sprinted in about 17 years with no affect on his game play. The only issues will be how does his body hold up to travel and the turf both of which are not kind to any player, much less a 36 year old.

If it is a done deal, I wonder if they are just waiting for the UCL Final before announcing it...
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Is Mix not a DP? Villa and Lampard I assume are... Pirlo would be as well.
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Mix is not a DP.

 
TheIronSheik said:
Poke_4_Life said:
TheIronSheik said:
Poke_4_Life said:
Sinn Fein said:
Eephus said:
Leicester City signs Schalke porn star Christian Fuchs to star in their next video.
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Fuchs really should have gone to Scunthorpe
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language filter down?
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What's wrong with Scunthorpe? :confused:
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New here? Used to always look like S####horpe.
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Why did you put hashtags in it? :confused:
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Don't be such a ####

 
I can't shake the feeling that Blatter will find a way to stay on if no charges are filed against him.

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The day after Sepp Blatter said he was resigning as FIFA president, he returned to work and received a standing ovation from his staff. Blatter isn't going anywhere for a while. He says he says he will spend the rest of his time as FIFA president focusing on reforming FIFA.

 
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NewlyRetired said:
I can't shake the feeling that Blatter will find a way to stay on if no charges are filed against him.

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The day after Sepp Blatter said he was resigning as FIFA president, he returned to work and received a standing ovation from his staff. Blatter isn't going anywhere for a while. He says he says he will spend the rest of his time as FIFA president focusing on reforming FIFA.
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Yep - he's lining up the puppet as we speak I fear.

-QG

 
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Native said:
Falcao now better than even odds to join Chelsea. Rumor is that the deal wont be a loan but a permanant transfer. Fee rumored to be 25M pounds. Chelsea need another striker with Costa often injured and Drogba retiring but the price seems steep for a 29 year old coming off a poor season. Feels like a luxury buy to be honest. That said, Mourinho loves him and I can see him playing both 1) alongside Costa as well as 2) instead of Costa in a lone target role. Do you guys think they can coexist?

I may be in the minority here but I think Chelsea will revert to a 4-4-2 next season with two established strikers. He was very succesful with that formation during his first stint at Chelsea (Drogba and Gudjohnson) as well as with Inter (Eto'o and Militio). Chelsea were quite predictable during the last three months of the season with so much of the attack started wide by Hazard. No way he keeps the same team and formation next season.

Also, Cuadrado was trending on Twitter last night as he is scheduled to leave Chelsea after just four months. Likely will return to Italy with Inter and Roma said to be frontrunners. Chelsea paid 23M pounds for him - will be interesting to see how much theyll be able to recoup.
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Falcao transfer betting now suspended...

 
QuizGuy66 said:
NewlyRetired said:
I can't shake the feeling that Blatter will find a way to stay on if no charges are filed against him.

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The day after Sepp Blatter said he was resigning as FIFA president, he returned to work and received a standing ovation from his staff. Blatter isn't going anywhere for a while. He says he says he will spend the rest of his time as FIFA president focusing on reforming FIFA.
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Yep - he's lining up the puppet as we speak I fear.

-QG
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The DOJ and the Attorney General aren't ####### around here. He's their target and the Attorney General is too high profile not to at least indict him sooner rather than later. The longer he stays on the quicker that will happen.

More than anything, this meeting just shows that all of FIFA just needs to be blown up. Fire all 400 people and start over. FIFA=Blatter and until both have turned over, nothing really will change.

 
I am sure the 400 people there still have something to fear since the boss has not been carried out in cuffs yet.

A number of those 400 surely informed the FBI.

So in that kind of atmosphere you are gonna try and fit in still - after all the investigation is not done.

That saidthe bulk of 'em do need to go for sure.

-QG

 
So the FBI is now investigating 2018/22 as well. My guess is that just means they already have the goods and are just waiting to be able to arrest Blatter. In any case, this is how you squeeze these guys:

The seven arrested officials, including two FIFA vice presidents, one member-elect of the FIFA executive committee and one FIFA staffer, all face extradition to the United States in a process which could last months.

Once in the U.S. they will be questioned about involvement in alleged racketeering, money-laundering and wire fraud in a $150 million bribe scheme spanning more than two decades.

The seven in Zurich have until next Monday to appeal being detained by Swiss authorities.

Their best chance of being released on bail lies with their lawyers either finding flaws in how American and Swiss agencies processed and handled the arrests, or a lenient judge.

"Release on bail is possible, but it's very, very rare,'' said Folco Galli, spokesman for the Swiss Federal Office of Justice in Bern.

The next deadline in the Swiss extradition process is July 3. The U.S. must submit its formal extradition request by then and may be in no hurry to do so.

All seven detainees could be feeling a long way from their home countries in South and Central America and residences in the U.S.
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and this is why neither Blatter nor Valcke haven't been arrested yet.

The outgoing FIFA president will not be detained in his home country on behalf of American prosecutors.

As a Swiss national, Blatter cannot be extradited by Switzerland. Still, the 79-year-old Blatter becomes more exposed if traveling abroad where a warrant for his arrest and extradition could be sought by the U.S.

FIFA tournaments are being played this month in New Zealand and Canada. Under normal circumstances, FIFA protocol would require Blatter to attend the Under-20 World Cup final in Auckland on June 20 and the Women's World Cup final on July 5 in Vancouver.

FIFA said on Wednesday that Blatter does not have any confirmed travel plans in the next two weeks.
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All this from this article:

http://www.espnfc.us/fifa-world-cup/story/2477711/fbi-to-probe-2018-and-2022-world-cup-host-awards-says-report

 
It seems odd that it will take 7 months to find a successor to Blatter when they had an election like 4 days earlier. No one can think of a possible candidate? :shrug:

 
Tom Hagen said:
It seems odd that it will take 7 months to find a successor to Blatter when they had an election like 4 days earlier. No one can think of a possible candidate? :shrug:
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this is the one time FIFA actually wants to follow the "rules"

Supposedly in their charter they can not have back to back elections and there has to be a specific amount of time between elections.

Outside of the fear that he is using this time to perform more corruption, I am ok with it.

As someone said earlier in the thread, if this is really an open election (it won't be if Platini runs sadly) it gives more candidates time to figure things out since some perspective candidates either dropped out early or did not run at all once they knew that Blatter held the African and Asian votes again in his pocket.

 
SING BLAZER, SING

@skysports_bryan: Blazer: "I and others on FIFA executive committee agreed to accept bribes in conjunction with selection of South Africa as host nation."

 
If the South Africa bid is found to be corrupt, that means that Spain never won and Pique never found his Colombian goddess. Let's be careful going down this wormhole.

 
So the 2002 (Japan/SK) and 2006 (Germany) votes were "clean"? I'd expect the Germany one to be, but the Japan/SK one sort of surprises me since everything seems sort of opaque there.

 
So yesterday the SA document got leaked, today we get the Blazer testimony confirming it and adding 1998 into the mix along with the FBI saying they are looking at the 2018/22 bids. I sort of wonder if the Warner kids indictments won't be released tomorrow implicating those as well.

 
I wish they would focus on the WC's that can be corrected, not the ones in the past.

Hopefully they are using the trail of breadcrumbs from previous WC bidding corruption to lead them forward into the current ones.

 
How involved with the 1998 bid was Platini?

Here's hoping.

No small part of me wonders if Platini has kinda been in on it all along - basically serving to be as a collector of dissenters without really being a serious threat to Blatter. (i.e. Blatter and Platini in cahoots the whole time). Whereas they are brazen with the money movement I can see them being this deft with the politcal end of the business.

-QG

 
NewlyRetired said:
I wish they would focus on the WC's that can be corrected, not the ones in the past.

Hopefully they are using the trail of breadcrumbs from previous WC bidding corruption to lead them forward into the current ones.
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They don't get Warner's kids to flip without Blazer admitting to the '98 and 2010 bribery. Warner's kids hold the keys (wires) to the 2011 election and 2018/22 bids with Warner's repeated connection to bin Hamman. Neither Warner nor bin Hamman were exactly criminal masterminds here. They both hugely sloppy and those that know just need some convincing (jail time) to clear their mind.

 
NewlyRetired said:
I wish they would focus on the WC's that can be corrected, not the ones in the past.

Hopefully they are using the trail of breadcrumbs from previous WC bidding corruption to lead them forward into the current ones.
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:no:

If you are going to root out all the wrongdoers in this you have to go all the way back to the roots. Letting officials that corrupted the process in '98 or '10 or whenever slide means an increased chance in this all happening again.

-QG

 
QuizGuy66 said:
How involved with the 1998 bid was Platini?

Here's hoping.

No small part of me wonders if Platini has kinda been in on it all along - basically serving to be as a collector of dissenters without really being a serious threat to Blatter. (i.e. Blatter and Platini in cahoots the whole time). Whereas they are brazen with the money movement I can see them being this deft with the politcal end of the business.

-QG
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Wiki says he was this involved:

He was the French national team coach for four years (98-92), and was the co-organizer of the 1998 World Cup in France.
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They won their bid in 1992. Why they had to bribe anyone, I haven't a clue since their only competition was Morrocco (though the vote was 12-7).

BTW, if Platini was this involved in '98 (and we knew he took bribes in the form of paintings from Russia for the 2018 bid) it sort of makes me wonder if he didn't sing like a canary to the FBI. The FBI doesn't make Blazer cop to the '98 part if their isn't some corroboration from somewhere.

It would also sort of make sense in that supposedly he was the one that sat Blatter down and told him the gig was up the other day.

 
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The FBI needs to get the Onion to publish an article announcing that Warner has been exonerated and that President Obama has extended him an invitation to come to the White House so he could give a Warner an apology in person.

-QG

 
Sammy3469 said:
QuizGuy66 said:
How involved with the 1998 bid was Platini?

Here's hoping.

No small part of me wonders if Platini has kinda been in on it all along - basically serving to be as a collector of dissenters without really being a serious threat to Blatter. (i.e. Blatter and Platini in cahoots the whole time). Whereas they are brazen with the money movement I can see them being this deft with the politcal end of the business.

-QG
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Wiki says he was this involved:

He was the French national team coach for four years (98-92), and was the co-organizer of the 1998 World Cup in France.
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They won their bid in 1992. Why they had to bribe anyone, I haven't a clue since their only competition was Morrocco (though the vote was 12-7)
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Exactly - I mean who could possibly think that a smaller nation could knock out a large Nuclear power in a FIFA election. It'd be a waste of money to spend money to defeat those kind of locations as they could never possibly be awarded the World Cup ;)

-QG

 
NewlyRetired said:
QuizGuy66 said:
How involved with the 1998 bid was Platini?
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I don't know how he was involved with the bid, but he was considered the Co Organizer of WC 1998 once France was chosen.

According to Wiki, they were up against only one other country in Morocco for the bid. Switzerland was in the running but had to pull out because they did not meet FIFA requirements (hello Qatar).

France won the vote 12-7
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Morocco submits a winning bid for 3 of those France votes and suddenly it's 10-9 Morocco.

-QG

 
QuizGuy66 said:
NewlyRetired said:
I wish they would focus on the WC's that can be corrected, not the ones in the past.

Hopefully they are using the trail of breadcrumbs from previous WC bidding corruption to lead them forward into the current ones.
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:no:

If you are going to root out all the wrongdoers in this you have to go all the way back to the roots. Letting officials that corrupted the process in '98 or '10 or whenever slide means an increased chance in this all happening again.

-QG
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Outside of a few lifer bureaucrats I can't imagine that anyone involved with FIFA (and the individual federations) is not corrupt.

 
QuizGuy66 said:
NewlyRetired said:
QuizGuy66 said:
How involved with the 1998 bid was Platini?
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I don't know how he was involved with the bid, but he was considered the Co Organizer of WC 1998 once France was chosen.

According to Wiki, they were up against only one other country in Morocco for the bid. Switzerland was in the running but had to pull out because they did not meet FIFA requirements (hello Qatar).

France won the vote 12-7
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Morocco submits a winning bid for 3 of those France votes and suddenly it's 10-9 Morocco.

-QG
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yeah good point if Blazer and the other 2 CONCACAF guys switch to Morocoo, France loses.

 
this whole thing reminds me of small renovation jobs where the client comes to me with just wanting to do just this and that... we hire the contractor and once we start demo and/or probing, we realize the whole thing had been built with sky-hooks, magnets and silly putty and the whole house has to be razed.

 
El Floppo said:
this whole thing reminds me of small renovation jobs where the client comes to me with just wanting to do just this and that... we hire the contractor and once we start demo and/or probing, we realize the whole thing had been built with sky-hooks, magnets and silly putty and the whole house has to be razed.
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This is why I never fix anything in my house.

 
This is why the 2002 bid didn't have any corruption

South Korea and Japan were selected as hosts by FIFA on 31 May 1996. Initially, South Korea, Japan, and Mexico presented three rival bids. However, the two Asian countries agreed to unite their bids shortly before the decision was made, and they were chosen unanimously in preference to Mexico. This was the first (and so far the only) World Cup to be hosted by two countries.
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The 2006 is a whole other can of worms. My guess is Blazer was on the gravy train twice with SA

The success of Germany's bid was marred by a hoax bribery affair which even led to calls for a re-vote.[5] On the night before the vote, German satirical magazine Titanic sent letters to FIFA representatives, offering joke gifts like cuckoo clocks and Black Forest ham in exchange for their vote for Germany. Oceania delegate Charlie Dempsey, who had initially backed England, had then been instructed to support South Africa following England's elimination. He abstained, citing "intolerable pressure" on the eve of the vote.[6] Had Dempsey voted as originally instructed, the vote would have resulted with a 12–12 tie, and FIFA president Sepp Blatter, who favoured the South African bid,[7] would have had to cast the deciding vote.[8]
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Live and learn for 2010

 
Sammy3469 said:
This is why the 2002 bid didn't have any corruption

South Korea and Japan were selected as hosts by FIFA on 31 May 1996. Initially, South Korea, Japan, and Mexico presented three rival bids. However, the two Asian countries agreed to unite their bids shortly before the decision was made, and they were chosen unanimously in preference to Mexico. This was the first (and so far the only) World Cup to be hosted by two countries.
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Who cares as long as Mexico lost

 
Eephus said:
Sammy3469 said:
This is why the 2002 bid didn't have any corruption

South Korea and Japan were selected as hosts by FIFA on 31 May 1996. Initially, South Korea, Japan, and Mexico presented three rival bids. However, the two Asian countries agreed to unite their bids shortly before the decision was made, and they were chosen unanimously in preference to Mexico. This was the first (and so far the only) World Cup to be hosted by two countries.
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Who cares as long as Mexico lost
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So in this case Mexico again lost 2-0? :excited:

 
Eephus said:
Sammy3469 said:
This is why the 2002 bid didn't have any corruption

South Korea and Japan were selected as hosts by FIFA on 31 May 1996. Initially, South Korea, Japan, and Mexico presented three rival bids. However, the two Asian countries agreed to unite their bids shortly before the decision was made, and they were chosen unanimously in preference to Mexico. This was the first (and so far the only) World Cup to be hosted by two countries.
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Who cares as long as Mexico lost
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