Mr. Mojo 1,343 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 4 hours ago, whoknew said: Watched a couple of more classics last night. Streetcar Named Desire - This just wasn't for me. I get that there was great acting and it was really influential in that it made a star out of Brando. I just didn't like it. Kind of reminds me of Gone with the Wind that way. They may be good or great movies - they just aren't for me. The story just didn't click. Completely agree. Characters were too weird and sets even looked silly. It probably worked better as a play than a film. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 31,009 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Strongly disagree with the Streetcar takes put forward here. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaPolice 18,067 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 4 minutes ago, Ilov80s said: Strongly disagree with the Streetcar takes put forward here. I was more in their camp too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 31,009 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Streetcar is electric. Some of the best performances ever put on film. Brando is a force of nature and Vivien Leigh’s classic Hollywood style and film history with GWTW is the perfect foil for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 hours ago, Ilov80s said: Streetcar is electric. Some of the best performances ever put on film. Brando is a force of nature and Vivien Leigh’s classic Hollywood style and film history with GWTW is the perfect foil for him. I'm with this guy cause I coulda been a contendah. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simsarge 605 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 10 hours ago, Andy Dufresne said: @simsarge I'm excited to see what you choose as your third ever movie! stay tuned! But be forewarned I'm as fickle as the day is long. I'll call em as I see em and will flip flop with what strikes me at the moment. If you're looking for Wikkid level insightfulness, you'll be disappointed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krista4 25,737 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 3 hours ago, El Floppo said: Something something keep politics outta here something something words words. Eta... ...at least, I think. On the last two pages of this thread I see several instances of people saying they didn't like a movie due to the characters. But then when someone said (or maybe even they didn't - I don't remember if it was a strawman or real) they didn't enjoy Into the Wild (a book I loved, by the way) because of the decision-making of the character, then it had to become political. It's pedantic and stupid. Of course we bring our views of the relatability of a character to everything we watch. The "conversation" about that fact was boring AF.* D-minus, would not read again. *ETA through no fault of most in the thread. Edited March 1 by krista4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krista4 25,737 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Btw, re-watching Godfather II right now and reminiscing about when Al Pacino wasn't a hack. 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, krista4 said: On the last two pages of this thread I see several instances of people saying they didn't like a movie due to the characters. But then when someone said (or maybe even they didn't - I don't remember if it was a strawman or real) they didn't enjoy Into the Wild (a book I loved, by the way) because of the decision-making of the character, then it had to become political. It's pedantic and stupid. Of course we bring our views of the relatability of a character to everything we watch. The "conversation" about that fact was boring AF. D-minus, would not read again. I put time and thought into my comments, which I thought were topical, c+ to a- level wirk. I think what makes people appreciate movies in different ways is interesting. Unless you disagree with me, in which case you're dumb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krista4 25,737 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 2 minutes ago, El Floppo said: I put time and thought into my comments, which I thought were topical, c+ to a- level wirk. I think what makes people appreciate movies in different ways is interesting. Unless you disagree with me, in which case you're dumb. See my edit, which I was writing as you posted. Sorry, I did not mean to disparage people who were discussing in good faith, including you. You, KP, and I'm sure others had good input. Edited March 1 by krista4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 9 minutes ago, krista4 said: See my edit, which I was writing as you posted. Sorry, I did not mean to disparage people who were discussing in good faith, including you. You, KP, and I'm sure others had good input. Good faith boring af, gotcha. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Wink wink. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaPolice 18,067 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 hours ago, Ilov80s said: Streetcar is electric. Some of the best performances ever put on film. Brando is a force of nature and Vivien Leigh’s classic Hollywood style and film history with GWTW is the perfect foil for him. Not that I have come across many, but I can't remember a movie that was based on a play that I really liked. It always seems like something is missing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaPolice 18,067 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Ok, not true - Romeo + Juliet kicked ###!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 8 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said: Not that I have come across many, but I can't remember a movie that was based on a play that I really liked. It always seems like something is missing. None of the Mamets? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaPolice 18,067 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 9 hours ago, El Floppo said: All good points. For me, art like movies can and hopefully does operate on multiple levels. I can appreciate them purely for the visuals, for the acting, directing, sound/music, the story, the characters, etc...independently or hopefully all together. The best challenge me intellectually and emotionally and keep me thinking and feeling something about the movie after it's finished. If all of that is firing in a way that works for me, it's a masterpiece. But I can still enjoy movies where not all of that works...like this one. I'm in the camp that found his character and choices frustrating and annoying, so the lead always kept me at a distance. But the story (and I had read the book going in to it) was told really well, the set/site pieces were always going to be amazing (and were, and were filmed well/beautifully) and even though I didn't like the kid, the portrayal was well done, along with the rest of the acting from the rest of the ensemble. Thought Penn did a nice job with the direction, pacing, editing and overall story telling. This was a well made and nice movie to watch, my appreciation for it only tempered by my dislike for the main character. Agree 100% on all this, but maybe not lock in step? For me initially a movie has to: 1. make me feel something and 2. give me an escape for a couple hours, and 3. give me interesting characters and stories. I would say that now I would have a sense if a movie is well made and directed, but I honestly don't notice a ton of other things like you listed like music/shots/cinematography until another viewing. That's when a movie will really jump up in "rating" for me - if it's good enough to watch again and if on the next viewing I see great work behind the scenes too. As far as the first part and what was being discussed today - I don't care too much about likeable/unlikeable, good choices/bad choices, I just want interesting and emotion. I love the little scenes and beats - in Into the Wild it always got me the way the older guy asked McCandless to stay behind (or was it he could live/work with him?). Those small human touches add up even if I didn't love the main character or plot. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, KarmaPolice said: Agree 100% on all this, but maybe not lock in step? For me initially a movie has to: 1. make me feel something and 2. give me an escape for a couple hours, and 3. give me interesting characters and stories. I would say that now I would have a sense if a movie is well made and directed, but I honestly don't notice a ton of other things like you listed like music/shots/cinematography until another viewing. That's when a movie will really jump up in "rating" for me - if it's good enough to watch again and if on the next viewing I see great work behind the scenes too. As far as the first part and what was being discussed today - I don't care too much about likeable/unlikeable, good choices/bad choices, I just want interesting and emotion. I love the little scenes and beats - in Into the Wild it always got me the way the older guy asked McCandless to stay behind (or was it he could live/work with him?). Those small human touches add up even if I didn't love the main character or plot. BORING 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaPolice 18,067 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, El Floppo said: None of the Mamets? Not sure I could name one of the top of my head - Glengarry? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, KarmaPolice said: Not sure I could name one of the top of my head - Glengarry? Yep. House of Games, Spanish Prisoner... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krista4 25,737 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I don't know, man. Casablanca, for instance? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 12 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said: Not sure I could name one of the top of my head - Glengarry? Just did the googles for this, and I kinda have to agree about the stage to screen thing from what a quick search found. Best one for me was Lion in Winter, which I loved (saw a stage production with laurence fishburne)...but otherwise a bunch of kinda sortas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, krista4 said: I don't know, man. Casablanca, for instance? Had no idea...that was a play? Figured it was a novel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 And tbh, Mamet annoy the #### out of me. Mamet. His plays. Mamet's plays....they annoy me. All ####s out of me is how they annoy me. Mamet's plays. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaPolice 18,067 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 15 minutes ago, El Floppo said: Yep. House of Games, Spanish Prisoner... Don't love Glengarry, haven't seen either of these. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krista4 25,737 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 6 minutes ago, El Floppo said: Had no idea...that was a play? Figured it was a novel. Play. I have a ton of suggestions for great play-originated-movies, but it would be BORING. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, krista4 said: Play. I have a ton of suggestions for great play-originated-movies, but it would be BORING Actually curious, especially after my quick Google search. I figured there'd be a ton. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaPolice 18,067 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, krista4 said: Play. I have a ton of suggestions for great play-originated-movies, but it would be BORING. LIST A Few Good Men? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaPolice 18,067 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I think I have managed to miss about 97% of that list. Some were surprises for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krista4 25,737 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, KarmaPolice said: LIST A Few Good Men? Oh wow. Now I'm going to be busy for a while. A Few Good Men was one I thought of - did you put the question mark after because you weren't sure if it was a play or if it was a good movie? I saw it in the theater before it was a movie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said: LIST A Few Good Men? Good lord man. We just said BORING and you hit us with wiki and an alphabetized list of every stage play every made into a movie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krista4 25,737 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, El Floppo said: Good lord man. We just said BORING and you hit us with wiki and an alphabetized list of every stage play every made into a movie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaPolice 18,067 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 9 minutes ago, krista4 said: Oh wow. Now I'm going to be busy for a while. A Few Good Men was one I thought of - did you put the question mark after because you weren't sure if it was a play or if it was a good movie? I saw it in the theater before it was a movie. The question mark was a surprise question mark. I didn't know that was a play first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaPolice 18,067 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Dammit, now I am not sure what I am supposed to talk about in the thread about movies that isn't boring. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, KarmaPolice said: Dammit, now I am not sure what I am supposed to talk about in the thread about movies that isn't boring. The English Patient 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Capella 31,415 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, krista4 said: Btw, re-watching Godfather II right now and reminiscing about when Al Pacino wasn't a hack. It’s truly startling. DeNiro is the true genius of that movie imo anyhow. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaPolice 18,067 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, El Floppo said: The English Patient That's a movie that is still a touchy subject around the KP household because I dared fall asleep during it when the wife wanted to watch it when we were in college. I don't think I've tried to watch it again since then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaPolice 18,067 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, krista4 said: Btw, re-watching Godfather II right now and reminiscing about when Al Pacino wasn't a hack. Hey now - when did he become one? I have Godfather 1 and 2 coming this week for a watch. Only seen each once. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krista4 25,737 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, Capella said: It’s truly startling. DeNiro is the true genius of that movie imo anyhow. I'm going Robert Duvall, but I think he's the genius in any movie he's in. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krista4 25,737 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, KarmaPolice said: Hey now - when did he become one? I have Godfather 1 and 2 coming this week for a watch. Only seen each once. 1992. Scent of a Woman. et seq. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krista4 25,737 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 7 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said: Dammit, now I am not sure what I am supposed to talk about in the thread about movies that isn't boring. Maybe you could describe movies you saw without telling us the names. That's always good for some excitement. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 3 minutes ago, krista4 said: 1992. Scent of a Woman. et seq. Wwwohahp. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Or something like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krista4 25,737 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, El Floppo said: Wwwohahp. 2 minutes ago, El Floppo said: Or something like that. Hoo-yah!!! ? Maybe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whoknew 8,954 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, KarmaPolice said: Not that I have come across many, but I can't remember a movie that was based on a play that I really liked. It always seems like something is missing. I'm a big fan of The Big Kahuna. I never saw the play its based on - but it apparently is based on a play. And makes sense because it is entirely in one room (basically). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaPolice 18,067 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 HOO - AH! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaPolice 18,067 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, whoknew said: I'm a big fan of The Big Kahuna. I never saw the play its based on - but it apparently is based on a play. And makes sense because it is entirely in one room (basically). Is that the new Hawaiian burger joint? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 3 minutes ago, krista4 said: Hoo-yah!!! ? Maybe? Pool or a pond. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaPolice 18,067 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I get what you are saying, but I still find Pacino cranked to 10 entertaining sometimes - ie Heat. He gets a big overboard there, but IMO in a great way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 The wife had the golden globes on just now...some category had The Crown and the Mandolorian together- in the same category. I assume "things spoken mostly in english that appeared on tv" 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 28,990 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I wasn't even close with that woohoo thing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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