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23 hours ago, Dark Matter said:

These will be my first Tri's of any distance. We are going up to St. George to support crew for a couple friends in May. That will be the first Tri I've attended. I think San Francisco will happen unless we start to slide backwards again. I just don't see that happening so we are full speed ahead, moving forward!

Thanks for the great advice!

I'm going to be headed to St. George also, pending COVID.  If the race is on and flying is OK, I'll be there racing (it's a bit of a drive from Atlanta).  We should grab a beer before the race.  

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6 hours ago, Zasada said:

16C/61F this morning.  85% humidity.  Too hot.  Too sweaty.  Anyone have any cooler temps to talk about?

Careful - you post something similar next week and mac will have trouble keeping his "no murder" resolution.

Actually broke out the shorts today for the first time this year.  It was upper 30s but bright sun.  In the potential irony department, I almost wiped out.  You would think it would be from the mounds of snow everywhere, but I fell victim to a waywardly snow-blown route that resulted in a footfall between the grass and sidewalk.

Not sure if it's the pandemic, but I saw way more cars that people didn't bother to move plowed in than usual.  Those people better get on the stick, because with this warm weather followed by the forecasted deep freeze, those vehicles are going to be impossible to clear out next week.

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1 hour ago, ThreeThousand said:

I'm going to be headed to St. George also, pending COVID.  If the race is on and flying is OK, I'll be there racing (it's a bit of a drive from Atlanta).  We should grab a beer before the race.  

🤞we can make this happen! I'll shoot you a PM when we get a little more confirmations.

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4 hours ago, Dr_Zaius said:

Careful - you post something similar next week and mac will have trouble keeping his "no murder" resolution. 

:lmao:

I've had enough beers tonight post snow trail run to curb any felonious assault urges. 

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7 hours ago, Dr_Zaius said:

Not sure if it's the pandemic, but I saw way more cars that people didn't bother to move plowed in than usual.  Those people better get on the stick, because with this warm weather followed by the forecasted deep freeze, those vehicles are going to be impossible to clear out next week.

It's going to be ugly out there for the next week.  I went out tonight and shoveled an inch or two of heavy, wet snow, then salted.  But the west winds were blowing strong and temps will be nasty by morning.  Most of the Chicago area will be stuck with a frozen layer of snow for the next week or more.

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5 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said:

Anyone have a balaclava recommendation?  Hoping to hear from either @gianmarco who I assume has at least three of them or from @JShare87, our cold weather guru.

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I've had a patagonia black fleece one for ages, it's ok. I figure you could use just about any buff as well.

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Well, the bathroom is 90% done. Vanity and sink are in and operational. Shower door goes in this coming week, and then the toilet will be in. So we will be fully functional by next weekend.  Master bedroom is painted and ready to go. 

Which means, I get to run again.  :headbang:

Will try and run tomorrow morning, and then on Sunday it's my annual:

"Chiefs Are In The Super Bowl So Run in Your Chiefs Gear Carrying a Chiefs Flag" run. 

Did this last year and it was a blast. Should be about 10 degrees on Sunday, so a nice crisp start to the day before the day-long hype begins.

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, ChiefD said:

Well, the bathroom is 90% done. Vanity and sink are in and operational. Shower door goes in this coming week, and then the toilet will be in. So we will be fully functional by next weekend.  Master bedroom is painted and ready to go. 

Which means, I get to run again.  :headbang:

Will try and run tomorrow morning, and then on Sunday it's my annual:

"Chiefs Are In The Super Bowl So Run in Your Chiefs Gear Carrying a Chiefs Flag" run. 

Did this last year and it was a blast. Should be about 10 degrees on Sunday, so a nice crisp start to the day before the day-long hype begins.

 

 

 

I can't wait to see how the Chiefs do against the Packer.....oh, wait.  That's right.  The Buccaneers are facing KC.

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3 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said:

How do you breathe? 

When it's that cold I pull it between my mouth and chin - the elastic is strong enough that it stays there and doesn't slide. Haven't needed to do that yet this winter, but it appears as though that time is coming - possibly in a couple hours.

With the amended forecast I've also bailed on next weekend's race. At those temps I won't be running on snow; it'll be frozen snow. If I were 100% healthy the challenge may be fun, but I'm just now turning the corner on this injury so now seems like a suboptimal time to risk a setback. I'm resetting my sights on a different and longer (HM) trail race at the end of the month.

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17 hours ago, tri-man 47 said:

@SayWhat? ...it's been a month.  How is your wife doing, physically and mentally?

Thanks for asking, tri-man.  It’s been a pretty rough go of it.  

The Bad:  Pain management has been tough to get a handle on.  She was in this state (blood alert) for 11 days, until she was able to have surgery (2 of 3 incisions visible). She had about a five day stretch where she ran a 100-103 fever, which apparently isn’t uncommon post-surgery, but which made her additionally miserable.  She’s been essentially bed ridden since New Years Day, so that’s definitely taking a bit of a mental toll (the pain, boredom, regretting the steps that led to the injury, missing activities with our kids, fearful of the future, etc).  She’s been on antibiotics the past week for an infection.  And she will be non wight bearing for at least 3 months, with “full” recovery likely 12 months out. (Impacting what is currently her final semester of school/clinicals for her Doctorate in Nursing and Nurse Practitioner license, and she’s especially bummed about not being able to pace me at Western States in June which has diminished my excitement a bit as well.)

The Good: By all accounts, the reconstructive surgery was a success.  Lots of damage to the front 1/3rd of the ankle joint, but the back 2/3rds was in good shape.  That said, she needed four plateslots of screws, and is now guaranteed to set off every metal detector known to man. But everything with the ankle, tibia, and fibula realigned as well as could be expected so now it’s just a waiting game.  And lots of work, which I know she’ll put in.  

All in all things are as well as can be expected I think.  It could’ve been worse, that’s for sure.  Going to be a long year for all of us, and especially her, but she will get there.  :thumbup:

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18 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said:

 

How do you breathe? 

It's breathable.  My biggest issue with it is that it fogs up my glasses when I have it over my nose.  So I'll occasionally wear contacts to avoid that (the only time I wear them anymore) or I just don't put it over my nose.  And, like @MAC_32 said, you can pull it down, either over the mouth or below the mouth and it stays in place. 

What I like about that configuration is that I usually start my runs with it all the way on.  As I warm up, I often end up pulling the top part down as well as the mouth part down and it just ends up being a gaiter.

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1 hour ago, ChiefD said:

Well, the bathroom is 90% done. Vanity and sink are in and operational. Shower door goes in this coming week, and then the toilet will be in. So we will be fully functional by next weekend.  Master bedroom is painted and ready to go. 

Which means, I get to run again.  :headbang:

Will try and run tomorrow morning, and then on Sunday it's my annual:

"Chiefs Are In The Super Bowl So Run in Your Chiefs Gear Carrying a Chiefs Flag" run. 

Did this last year and it was a blast. Should be about 10 degrees on Sunday, so a nice crisp start to the day before the day-long hype begins.

 

 

 

Sounds awesome!  Let’s see some pics.  

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1 minute ago, SayWhat? said:

Thanks for asking, tri-man.  It’s been a pretty rough go of it.  

The Bad:  Pain management has been tough to get a handle on.  She was in this state (blood alert) for 11 days, until she was able to have surgery (2 of 3 incisions visible). She had about a five day stretch where she ran a 100-103 fever, which apparently isn’t uncommon post-surgery, but which made her additionally miserable.  She’s been essentially bed ridden since New Years Day, so that’s definitely taking a bit of a mental toll (the pain, boredom, regretting the steps that led to the injury, missing activities with our kids, fearful of the future, etc).  She’s been on antibiotics the past week for an infection.  And she will be non wight bearing for at least 3 months, with “full” recovery likely 12 months out. (Impacting what is currently her final semester of school/clinicals for her Doctorate in Nursing and Nurse Practitioner license, and she’s especially bummed about not being able to pace me at Western States in June which has diminished my excitement a bit as well.)

The Good: By all accounts, the reconstructive surgery was a success.  Lots of damage to the front 1/3rd of the ankle joint, but the back 2/3rds was in good shape.  That said, she needed four plateslots of screws, and is now guaranteed to set off every metal detector known to man. But everything with the ankle, tibia, and fibula realigned as well as could be expected so now it’s just a waiting game.  And lots of work, which I know she’ll put in.  

All in all things are as well as can be expected I think.  It could’ve been worse, that’s for sure.  Going to be a long year for all of us, and especially her, but she will get there.  :thumbup:

Well, without knowing the future, I'm hoping that the worst part of it is this "short-term" and that long-term it ends up being a success and she does well.  Just an awful situation but hoping for the best for you guys, including physically, mentally, and emotionally.

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1 hour ago, SteelCurtain said:

I can't wait to see how the Chiefs do against the Packer.....oh, wait.  That's right.  The Buccaneers are facing KC.

:hot::censored::hot::censored::hot:

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48 minutes ago, gianmarco said:

It's breathable.  My biggest issue with it is that it fogs up my glasses when I have it over my nose.  So I'll occasionally wear contacts to avoid that (the only time I wear them anymore) or I just don't put it over my nose.  And, like @MAC_32 said, you can pull it down, either over the mouth or below the mouth and it stays in place. 

What I like about that configuration is that I usually start my runs with it all the way on.  As I warm up, I often end up pulling the top part down as well as the mouth part down and it just ends up being a gaiter.

Good point of clarification - this is what I do too. Breathing is not an issue with the nose covered over the first few minutes. Once breathing becomes more labored I'll pull it down then I'm warm enough that as long as I'm not running into the wind my face is not uncomfortably cold. Got a good laugh with my HR the one time I did this earlier this winter - I looked down a few minutes in and was taken aback by the number I saw (144). I pulled down the mask part, actually sped up, then looked down again and saw 135.

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24 minutes ago, SayWhat? said:

Heck yeah.  Maybe even a ChiefD ballad about the bathroom remodel love of his life?!

"Chief the tiler is a BMF,

Chief the installer is a BMF.

Chief the painter is a BMF,

Baaaaad, MF"

 

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50 minutes ago, tri-man 47 said:

"Chief the tiler is a BMF,

Chief the installer is a BMF.

Chief the painter is a BMF,

Baaaaad, MF"

 

I suggest you stick to foot rubs and leave the lyric writing to the professionals.

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Alright, so I was contemplating something on my run this morning.

As I outlined in my end of year report, there was both good and bad with the FBG race series.  However, I do think there was some significant good, both in terms of fun watching it unfold, but most importantly with TONS of PRs set and motivation for many during a tough time.  With the looming weather and just the overall race scene (or lack thereof), I was thinking of some ideas to see about having our 2nd annual race series and ways to maybe improve it. 

First of all, with last year's results in the books, we actually have a more accurate representation of everyone's capabilities.  Now, I know fitness levels wax and wane along with health, so it's not perfect, but it at least allows for a better general idea of where people should slot. 

Second, I'm thinking if we decide to do the race series at the various events, that we do them all as one off events and simply re-pick teams for each distance.  That will allow us to cheer on more of us and not become so competitive against half of our friends here. 

Now, I know a couple people that were in it are currently hurt or unable to run (or not running at all).  I know a couple DNF people from last time are back in and I know we have a few new people as well.  I think we can open it up to whoever wants to join in and or whoever wants to drop out without any pressure. 

So, any interest?

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46 minutes ago, gianmarco said:

I suggest you stick to foot rubs and leave the lyric writing to the professionals.

:kicksrock:

 

I just thought I'd start with some MAF-level writing and slowly build up from there.

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2 hours ago, SayWhat? said:

All in all things are as well as can be expected I think.  It could’ve been worse, that’s for sure.  Going to be a long year for all of us, and especially her, but she will get there.  :thumbup:

I appreciate the update.  Wow, what a challenge for her ...and your whole family.  How old are your kids? This must be difficult for them too.  Add in the added frustration of your wife having her schooling interrupted - yeesh.  :loco:  I suppose the workouts/training that you both have done has helped a lot as you're both used to having to be patient, tough, focused, self-disciplined, etc.  That doesn't really make is easier, though.  Stay strong!  Tell her we're rooting for her.

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11 minutes ago, gianmarco said:

Alright, so I was contemplating something on my run this morning.

As I outlined in my end of year report, there was both good and bad with the FBG race series.  However, I do think there was some significant good, both in terms of fun watching it unfold, but most importantly with TONS of PRs set and motivation for many during a tough time.  With the looming weather and just the overall race scene (or lack thereof), I was thinking of some ideas to see about having our 2nd annual race series and ways to maybe improve it. 

First of all, with last year's results in the books, we actually have a more accurate representation of everyone's capabilities.  Now, I know fitness levels wax and wane along with health, so it's not perfect, but it at least allows for a better general idea of where people should slot. 

Second, I'm thinking if we decide to do the race series at the various events, that we do them all as one off events and simply re-pick teams for each distance.  That will allow us to cheer on more of us and not become so competitive against half of our friends here. 

Now, I know a couple people that were in it are currently hurt or unable to run (or not running at all).  I know a couple DNF people from last time are back in and I know we have a few new people as well.  I think we can open it up to whoever wants to join in and or whoever wants to drop out without any pressure. 

So, any interest?

No, I'm not interested this year. 

 

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Btw, gaining 10-15 lbs in a year isn't so bad for the pool or bike (at least the trainer). And I feel remarkably good overall.  But it sucks for running. 

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1 hour ago, gianmarco said:

Alright, so I was contemplating something on my run this morning.

As I outlined in my end of year report, there was both good and bad with the FBG race series.  However, I do think there was some significant good, both in terms of fun watching it unfold, but most importantly with TONS of PRs set and motivation for many during a tough time.  With the looming weather and just the overall race scene (or lack thereof), I was thinking of some ideas to see about having our 2nd annual race series and ways to maybe improve it. 

First of all, with last year's results in the books, we actually have a more accurate representation of everyone's capabilities.  Now, I know fitness levels wax and wane along with health, so it's not perfect, but it at least allows for a better general idea of where people should slot. 

Second, I'm thinking if we decide to do the race series at the various events, that we do them all as one off events and simply re-pick teams for each distance.  That will allow us to cheer on more of us and not become so competitive against half of our friends here. 

Now, I know a couple people that were in it are currently hurt or unable to run (or not running at all).  I know a couple DNF people from last time are back in and I know we have a few new people as well.  I think we can open it up to whoever wants to join in and or whoever wants to drop out without any pressure. 

So, any interest?

I have mixed feeling this year but I’ll do it if most everyone else does. Some opinions:

I’d prefer cross country scoring of some sort (based on finishing place) instead of average time.

Although the extreme downhill schtick was kind of funny, maybe we could limit net elevation loss.

I don’t want to be a captain.

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1 hour ago, gianmarco said:

Alright, so I was contemplating something on my run this morning.

As I outlined in my end of year report, there was both good and bad with the FBG race series.  However, I do think there was some significant good, both in terms of fun watching it unfold, but most importantly with TONS of PRs set and motivation for many during a tough time.  With the looming weather and just the overall race scene (or lack thereof), I was thinking of some ideas to see about having our 2nd annual race series and ways to maybe improve it. 

First of all, with last year's results in the books, we actually have a more accurate representation of everyone's capabilities.  Now, I know fitness levels wax and wane along with health, so it's not perfect, but it at least allows for a better general idea of where people should slot. 

Second, I'm thinking if we decide to do the race series at the various events, that we do them all as one off events and simply re-pick teams for each distance.  That will allow us to cheer on more of us and not become so competitive against half of our friends here. 

Now, I know a couple people that were in it are currently hurt or unable to run (or not running at all).  I know a couple DNF people from last time are back in and I know we have a few new people as well.  I think we can open it up to whoever wants to join in and or whoever wants to drop out without any pressure. 

So, any interest?

I am a probably maybe but will need more re-build time before any up-efforts. Wonder if we can build it on longer time windows and use race results?  I am less likely to blast a virtual effort when I will be keeping my powder dry for training & racing this year.  

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Don't plan on me. My priority right now is health. My second priority is sustaining that while I add quantity/quality. My third will be racing (they're actually happening 'round here). And if I do too much of that then I risk the health I'm trying to sustain with priorities 1 and 2. If what you all decide fits future me's plans then I'll reconsider, but I don't want you all to make a plan that fits what I might do then I opt not to. I may be a selfish #######, but I have a line.

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I've been coping with a bad shoulder since March of last year.  Not sure what caused it, but one day, it started to hurt when I move it in certain directions.  I've been unable to do push ups, side planks or golf or volleyball since then. 

Finally got off my butt to do something and saw a shoulder specialist today.  Likely Frozen Shoulder and Impingement Syndrome.  He gave me a cortisol shot and I will have to do PT for the next few weeks.  The shot had a pretty immediate improvement, which is nice. Hopefully I'll be back to full strength by summer. 

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For the coldest weather running, I use a touque and a neck gaiter.  I wrap the gaiter up around my chin, and under my cheekbones, leaving my mouth/nose/eyes exposed.  Not perfect, but it's worked for me all the way down to -27F (I haven't run in any colder than that).

Oh and I'm curious about the barefoot HM in the cold.  What are the requirements?  Do you have to be running in snow?  How much snow?  How cold does it have to be to count?

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43 minutes ago, Zasada said:

For the coldest weather running, I use a touque and a neck gaiter.  I wrap the gaiter up around my chin, and under my cheekbones, leaving my mouth/nose/eyes exposed.  Not perfect, but it's worked for me all the way down to -27F (I haven't run in any colder than that).

Oh and I'm curious about the barefoot HM in the cold.  What are the requirements?  Do you have to be running in snow?  How much snow?  How cold does it have to be to count?

That's what I did when not into the wind today. Into the wind? Eyes only. It was bearable except when the snow pellets were hard enough to get in there. Day 1 of hell week, done.

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Probably the toughest run of my entire plan tomorrow. 18 with 14 at MP. For the MP runs, I've been locking in a little below 7:00 min pace. However, I'm not sure that pace is realistic to hold for 26.2 miles. I'm thinking somewhere around 7:15 would probably be a better goal. Should I run tomorrow like I've been doing my other MP runs and try to go sub 7 for 14 miles? Or should I try and simulate the marathon and kind of cruise at the 7:15 mark for 14 miles? 

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11 minutes ago, JShare87 said:

Probably the toughest run of my entire plan tomorrow. 18 with 14 at MP. For the MP runs, I've been locking in a little below 7:00 min pace. However, I'm not sure that pace is realistic to hold for 26.2 miles. I'm thinking somewhere around 7:15 would probably be a better goal. Should I run tomorrow like I've been doing my other MP runs and try to go sub 7 for 14 miles? Or should I try and simulate the marathon and kind of cruise at the 7:15 mark for 14 miles? 

That’s faster than the Jan 30 and Jan 23 runs, or am I looking at the wrong prior runs?  Either way, looking back at your stacked long runs they look really strong at those HR for you.

I’ll shoot for 14 miles 2 mins slower per tomorrow to keep you virtual company. 
 

edit - my bad I see the BMF effort on Jan 9,  looks great and go for the 14 brother. 

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15 minutes ago, JShare87 said:

Probably the toughest run of my entire plan tomorrow. 18 with 14 at MP. For the MP runs, I've been locking in a little below 7:00 min pace. However, I'm not sure that pace is realistic to hold for 26.2 miles. I'm thinking somewhere around 7:15 would probably be a better goal. Should I run tomorrow like I've been doing my other MP runs and try to go sub 7 for 14 miles? Or should I try and simulate the marathon and kind of cruise at the 7:15 mark for 14 miles? 

What training plan are you following?

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15 minutes ago, JShare87 said:

Probably the toughest run of my entire plan tomorrow. 18 with 14 at MP. For the MP runs, I've been locking in a little below 7:00 min pace. However, I'm not sure that pace is realistic to hold for 26.2 miles. I'm thinking somewhere around 7:15 would probably be a better goal. Should I run tomorrow like I've been doing my other MP runs and try to go sub 7 for 14 miles? Or should I try and simulate the marathon and kind of cruise at the 7:15 mark for 14 miles? 

Good luck tomorrow it is a monster workout, if I were you I’d attempt the sub 7 pace that you have been running. That being said my experience has been that my marathon pace workouts often end up being about 10 sec/mile faster than what I did on race day.

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28 minutes ago, JShare87 said:

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That's what I thought.  I've used his plans several times. That 18/14 is a #####, but not as bad as the 12/7 tempo (or whatever the longest one is).  Have fun!

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So last year I bought a Canada Goose parka.  It was embarrassingly expensive, but I'll tell you what - I just walked the dog with -11° wind chill, and I was damn near sweating.  It's too bad they can't engineer something lightweight for runners.

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10 minutes ago, gruecd said:

That's what I thought.  I've used his plans several times. That 18/14 is a #####, but not as bad as the 12/7 tempo (or whatever the longest one is).  Have fun!

Yeah, made that 11 with 7 at tempo my ##### on January 19th. 

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