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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (3 Viewers)

As for switching the mile, why can't we just choose our distance for each time period?  It'll actually make it interesting as it'll be interesting to see what we need to shoot for each subsequent date. 

Run whichever of the 3 distances you're ready for during those days (or all 3) and pick one to stand by the deadline.
Dumb idea.

Look - this is a competition. I can think of nothing better than during a specific time period all we see posted here are 5K times. Or mile times. Or 10k times. Depending on the time period. Think of the smack talk and guys rooting for team members.

If we allow all willy-nilly distances at random times this thread will look like an @The Iguana marathon training cycle.

 
As for switching the mile, why can't we just choose our distance for each time period?  It'll actually make it interesting as it'll be interesting to see what we need to shoot for each subsequent date. 

Run whichever of the 3 distances you're ready for during those days (or all 3) and pick one to stand by the deadline.
I second the motion. 

 
Btw, I'm sure when the rest of the OtisWeightLossGuys stop in here and see we just held a ####### draft with predicted times and dates (with some included BMIs used to determine draft slot and VBD), they're going to go nuts.

"So you're saying picking names from a hat on Skype isn't the best way to choose who does what?"

 
As for switching the mile, why can't we just choose our distance for each time period?  It'll actually make it interesting as it'll be interesting to see what we need to shoot for each subsequent date. 

Run whichever of the 3 distances you're ready for during those days (or all 3) and pick one to stand by the deadline.
Another reason I like this idea is it fits the idea of how we might approach a real race.  I hope I’ll be ready to try to best my PR each time and I hope a lot of you are trying for PRs too.  To this end, why not let the runner decide which sequence fits him best?

 
NO!  5K, then 10K, then the mile.  5K first (vs. a 10K) as we've got less than a month to prepare.  10K in May allows us to build up to the distance. Mile comes last in June - warmer weather is more conducive to the shorter distance, and the warmer weather is better for the "speed" of a hard mile.  Arguably, the mile is harder to train for than the others.  Also, for the mile, every second will count, so the pressure to rev it up will be strong...more drama, finishing with the mile.  And no poop breaks (theoretically) for the mile. 

 
As for switching the mile, why can't we just choose our distance for each time period?  It'll actually make it interesting as it'll be interesting to see what we need to shoot for each subsequent date. 

Run whichever of the 3 distances you're ready for during those days (or all 3) and pick one to stand by the deadline.


I second the motion. 
I mentioned this earlier, got shot down. Had PTSD from dating life and wife. :kicksrock:

I'd probably do it in the order as written anyway, so I'll "vote" to have 3 races, as scheduled.

 
@SFBayDuck‘s and my medicals are clearly not checking out.   :whistle:
Quoting myself, because this is incredibly funny...well, the timing is at least.

I’ve been having pretty consistent upper right quadrant stomach pain for a few months.  I saw my general practioner in January, labs were normal.  He scheduled an ultrasound.  Results were mostly normal.  Then had me see a gastroenterologist in February.  She had me do a HIDA scan a week ago to check gallbladder functionality.  Just got the results.  Looks like I’ve got a bum gallbladder functioning at 25%.  Anything below 30% is abnormal and typically necessitates surgical removal.  With no elective surgery’s right now, if it needs to be removed I have no idea when that happens and just hope it doesn’t start causing more problems.  I’m now praying that WSER gets postponed because I’m either going to take a solid few week hit to training with surgery/recovery whenever it can happen or run with a bum gallbladder (risks? No idea.).  :kicksrock:

No fear though #teamgrue, even if you have to IR me for a few weeks, I feel like I can outperform my draft slot.   :boxing:

 
Quoting myself, because this is incredibly funny...well, the timing is at least.

I’ve been having pretty consistent upper right quadrant stomach pain for a few months.  I saw my general practioner in January, labs were normal.  He scheduled an ultrasound.  Results were mostly normal.  Then had me see a gastroenterologist in February.  She had me do a HIDA scan a week ago to check gallbladder functionality.  Just got the results.  Looks like I’ve got a bum gallbladder functioning at 25%.  Anything below 30% is abnormal and typically necessitates surgical removal.  With no elective surgery’s right now, if it needs to be removed I have no idea when that happens and just hope it doesn’t start causing more problems.  I’m now praying that WSER gets postponed because I’m either going to take a solid few week hit to training with surgery/recovery whenever it can happen or run with a bum gallbladder (risks? No idea.).  :kicksrock:

No fear though #teamgrue, even if you have to IR me for a few weeks, I feel like I can outperform my draft slot.   :boxing:
Say what? 

God bless man. 

 
NO!  5K, then 10K, then the mile.  5K first (vs. a 10K) as we've got less than a month to prepare.  10K in May allows us to build up to the distance. Mile comes last in June - warmer weather is more conducive to the shorter distance, and the warmer weather is better for the "speed" of a hard mile.  Arguably, the mile is harder to train for than the others.  Also, for the mile, every second will count, so the pressure to rev it up will be strong...more drama, finishing with the mile.  And no poop breaks (theoretically) for the mile. 
The other advantage to running these in the same order is that it will be easier to track which team is ahead.

 
I get all that. Would be nice to have an exemption though. My first run will be 3 weeks post knee surgery. Would be great if it could be my shortest, but this was known going into the draft. Assuming that’s why I wasn’t 1.01. 
The actual 1.01 may dnf the 10k - and will certainly dq anyway 

 
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I get all that. Would be nice to have an exemption though. My first run will be 3 weeks post knee surgery. Would be great if it could be my shortest, but this was known going into the draft. Assuming that’s why I wasn’t 1.01. 
Worst case, you can't run the 5K and Team Grue misses out on a possibly strong time.  You projected very conservatively for the 5K, though (even if your captain showed more confidence as to what you might do).  

Glad you're on his team, though.  We don't want to deal with that crap.

 
The other advantage to running these in the same order is that it will be easier to track which team is ahead.
I was thinking about the calculation.  Do we add each guy’s times together? That will be a problem if someone can’t run all the races due to injury. The other way is treat each week separately with the winning team winning two out the three weeks. However, the latter way could be anticlimactic if a team clinches in the first two.

 
Btw, I'm sure when the rest of the OtisWeightLossGuys stop in here and see we just held a ####### draft with predicted times and dates (with some included BMIs used to determine draft slot and VBD), they're going to go nuts.

"So you're saying picking names from a hat on Skype isn't the best way to choose who does what?"
Yet debating what most of the rules will be after the draft is completed is a best practice here.

 
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I was thinking about the calculation.  Do we add each guy’s times together? That will be a problem if someone can’t run all the races due to injury. The other way is treat each week separately with the winning team winning two out the three weeks. However, the latter way could be anticlimactic if a team clinches in the first two.
It was said earlier, just use averages.

I did take this as a 3 part competition, but you're right. After grue wins the first 2, the mile is somewhat anticlimactic. 

 
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Add the three averages? That makes sense I think.
Could work.

Something like 43:43+19:56+6:32=X ?

If a team is behind, they'll have to run some really fast miles.

Almost makes you want the 10k last.

 
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8.02 @El Floppo  Hopefully he'll be out of the house and training soon.

9.01 @JAA  The workout warrior.
This is absolute bull####. I’m the mother ####### Tom Brady of this draft. I’m bout to go full on Steve Smith with the chip on my shoulder and carry it all the way to my gold BMF running belt and shiny white ### bust ... #####es.  Y’all can kiss my ### as I’m gonna out perform my draft position by like 12 rounds.  

Tell me again how long the swim leg is?

 
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I'd say not necessarily a loop - but no meaningful net-downhill, either.  Also, I would say: No track usage for any of this.  Not everyone has access, and tracks add too much favorable distortion.  
WHAT?!?  No track?  What the #### is this ####?  Some teams play on grass, some play in domes. I am the greatest show turf #####es!!!

 
Or, maybe take the average mile pace from each race, add them.

10k at 7:03

5k at 6:50

Mile at 6:02

Total 19:55

Makes it so the mile can make a difference. 
I like this too.  
 

i prefer people running the distance they want when they want.  It allow projections as we get to that last weekend about who needs what.

but I’ll go with whatever.  
 

And definitely think the track should be allowable. The Olympics does the 5000 meters on a track, why can’t we?

 
Or, maybe take the average mile pace from each race, add them.

10k at 7:03

5k at 6:50

Mile at 6:02

Total 19:55

Makes it so the mile can make a difference. 
The original design was to take the 5K times, determine the average of all the available times, and declare a a 5K winner.  Do the same for the 10K.  Do the same for the mile.  Yes, the risk is one team wins the first two and makes the last leg less dramatic.  But we could also incorporate the above, where we add all three up for a cumulative time ...then average (or total) those, and make that a fourth leg of the competition.  Benefit: A team trailing 2-0 has a chance to double up in June.  Ramification: We'd then need a tiebreaker - probably a captain vs. captain HM race at some point.   :yes:

Captains, do you want to add this fourth element of a cumulative time as well?

 
The original design was to take the 5K times, determine the average of all the available times, and declare a a 5K winner.  Do the same for the 10K.  Do the same for the mile.  Yes, the risk is one team wins the first two and makes the last leg less dramatic.  But we could also incorporate the above, where we add all three up for a cumulative time ...then average (or total) those, and make that a fourth leg of the competition.  Benefit: A team trailing 2-0 has a chance to double up in June.  Ramification: We'd then need a tiebreaker - probably a captain vs. captain HM race at some point.   :yes:

Captains, do you want to add this fourth element of a cumulative time as well?
I thought this is what we were doing too. Personally, I like everyone doing the same event at the same time and we have a winner after each weekend. If one team is up 2-0, it's unlikely that the mile would sway things anyway. We can come up with some other way to make the last event more meaningful if it comes to that. 

 
I thought this is what we were doing too. Personally, I like everyone doing the same event at the same time and we have a winner after each weekend. If one team is up 2-0, it's unlikely that the mile would sway things anyway. We can come up with some other way to make the last event more meaningful if it comes to that. 
Yeah...Doubtful there would be enough descent err... deviation in a mile times to make a difference.

 
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Quoting myself, because this is incredibly funny...well, the timing is at least.

I’ve been having pretty consistent upper right quadrant stomach pain for a few months.  I saw my general practioner in January, labs were normal.  He scheduled an ultrasound.  Results were mostly normal.  Then had me see a gastroenterologist in February.  She had me do a HIDA scan a week ago to check gallbladder functionality.  Just got the results.  Looks like I’ve got a bum gallbladder functioning at 25%.  Anything below 30% is abnormal and typically necessitates surgical removal.  With no elective surgery’s right now, if it needs to be removed I have no idea when that happens and just hope it doesn’t start causing more problems.  I’m now praying that WSER gets postponed because I’m either going to take a solid few week hit to training with surgery/recovery whenever it can happen or run with a bum gallbladder (risks? No idea.).  :kicksrock:

No fear though #teamgrue, even if you have to IR me for a few weeks, I feel like I can outperform my draft slot.   :boxing:
Hey, I need Gallbladder surgery too! We were destined to be on TeamGrue.

 
Hey, I need Gallbladder surgery too! We were destined to be on TeamGrue.
Nooooo!  So fill me in on this. How did you figure this out?  HIDA scan?  Then a specialist recommended surgery?  Did you speak with them or do any research about any long term impacts when running, other than the potential for GI issues and epic 10K running thread poop stories?

I just got my HIDA scan results online last night, but haven’t yet spoken to the doc.  I only know it’ll need to be removed because my wife had damn near the exact same result and had hers removed just three weeks ago.  What are the odds?!  :lmao:

 
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My vote is for everyone to race the same distances in each window.  Allows for more in-the-moment comparisons.

And already this activity is having its intended effect.  I'm now so freaked-out about how high Captain @Juxtatarot picked me (ahead of @The Iguana?!?!?  CRAZY), that this morning I found myself running much faster than I planned, despite very sore quads from the weekend.  Too much pressure!  

THIS IS WHY I HATE TEAM SPORTS.  I CAN'T HANDLE HAVING TO PERFORM FOR THE SAKE OF OTHERS (my wife knows all about that).  AAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH.

All that said, am I allowed to fly to Cleveland (ugh, Cleveland) and have @MAC_32 pace me for my times?  Feels like he would be more of a drill sergeant than @Juxtatarot.   

 
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Screw that old *******.
One year ban on foot massages for you, kiddo.

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5K in mid-April, 10K in mid-May, 1 mile in mid-June.  Average team time for those that record a time each month determines the winner.  UPick your course.  

IF one team goes up 2-0, we'll add a cumulative time as well (averaged by team) after the June race ..kind of a double-or-nothing.  If that happens to result in a 2-2 tie (but possibly a 4-0 debacle), we'll arrange a HM run-off between the captains (possibly in the fall).

As my Dances with Dirt relay team, #Viagra, likes to say- Run Hard!

 
My captain's gonna be real mad at me if I run a half on June 7, a thought that entered my head via group text last night.

 

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