Hankmoody 3,781 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 We still don't know if DJ can pass block because Arians decided to sit him the 4th week of the preseason and give CJ0K a long look. So the coach now has his best weapon sitting on the sideline when he could be breaking out the next 3 weeks and taking this starting job from the 185 pound 3rd down back they are currently using as a workhorse.On the surface that screams Arians had no intention of using DJ this year. Why would he not get a long look at DJ during the 4th week of the preseason? Hell, have him pass block the entire game.Arians doesn't coach fantasy football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 2,348 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 We still don't know if DJ can pass block because Arians decided to sit him the 4th week of the preseason and give CJ0K a long look. So the coach now has his best weapon sitting on the sideline when he could be breaking out the next 3 weeks and taking this starting job from the 185 pound 3rd down back they are currently using as a workhorse.On the surface that screams Arians had no intention of using DJ this year. Why would he not get a long look at DJ during the 4th week of the preseason? Hell, have him pass block the entire game. Arians doesn't coach fantasy football.Sitting your best offensive weapon on the sidelines helps the Cardinals win? Not doing everything you can to figure out if he can pass block is ######ed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardcoredx 42 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 I tihnk DJ will take some time to adjust and work on his blocking. I don't see him coimng into play till Late October/ November. He is a 3 down back and I think if he improves his blocking in the next 5 weeks, he takes over and Ellington becomes a backup. Arians and the front office were drooling when they drafted the guy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 2,348 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 I don't get it at all. I mean he either already knew DJ is capable, they're just hiding him, and he's going to get 20 touches Sunday or since DJ got injured Arians is going to teach him a lesson for missing 2 weeks of camp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hankmoody 3,781 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 We still don't know if DJ can pass block because Arians decided to sit him the 4th week of the preseason and give CJ0K a long look. So the coach now has his best weapon sitting on the sideline when he could be breaking out the next 3 weeks and taking this starting job from the 185 pound 3rd down back they are currently using as a workhorse.On the surface that screams Arians had no intention of using DJ this year. Why would he not get a long look at DJ during the 4th week of the preseason? Hell, have him pass block the entire game. Arians doesn't coach fantasy football.Sitting your best offensive weapon on the sidelines helps the Cardinals win? Not doing everything you can to figure out if he can pass block is ######ed.Best offensive weapon isn't defined as the guy that can score the most fantasy points in a PPR league and break out over the next 3 weeks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 2,348 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Facepalm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alex P Keaton 4,333 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 We still don't know if DJ can pass block because Arians decided to sit him the 4th week of the preseason and give CJ0K a long look. So the coach now has his best weapon sitting on the sideline when he could be breaking out the next 3 weeks and taking this starting job from the 185 pound 3rd down back they are currently using as a workhorse.On the surface that screams Arians had no intention of using DJ this year. Why would he not get a long look at DJ during the 4th week of the preseason? Hell, have him pass block the entire game. Arians doesn't coach fantasy football.Sitting your best offensive weapon on the sidelines helps the Cardinals win? Not doing everything you can to figure out if he can pass block is ######ed. Best offensive weapon isn't defined as the guy that can score the most fantasy points in a PPR league and break out over the next 3 weeks.Yeah, busting a 55 yard TD on your first touch as a professional is only valuable in fantasy football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hankmoody 3,781 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 People must enjoy being intentionally obtuse. It's been said time and again in this thread big boy football is about more than the yards you can gain and the catches you snag. Knowing the entire playbook, pass blocking, blitz assignment, etc. Arians is going to go with the guy he thinks is the most effective at all of the above in any given situation. If the rookie runs the wrong route or misses a blitz assignment that can completely offset a positive play he makes. I have David Johnson in 3/4 leagues and would love nothing more than for him to get the lion's share of the work, but I'm not delusional enough to believe Arians plays veterans based purely on stubbornness, it's about who he trusts to execute the entire job. Once that's David Johnson we'll all be celebrating. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 2,348 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Thanks for clearing that up moody. It still doesn't explain why Arians didn't play David Johnson in the 4th preseason game if he's not sure what he has in the rookie. Another words he's a stubborn ###. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
addicted2ff 19 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Thanks for clearing that up moody. It still doesn't explain why Arians didn't play David Johnson in the 4th preseason game if he's not sure what he has in the rookie. Another words he's a stubborn ###.Perhaps he wanted to make sure Chris could do what he's supposed to do since I don't recall seeing much of him in the other preseason games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 2,348 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 They could have both played. It's obvious Arians mind was already made up. That's the point I'm trying to make. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bostonfred 31,079 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Another words?We don't get french benefits? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 17,137 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Another words?We don't get french benefits?I think we know what he meant for all intensive purposes. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobbyLayne 11,177 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Another words?We don't get french benefits?I think we know what he meant for all intensive purposes.Now you're just pouring salt in the womb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matuski 5,025 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) We still don't know if DJ can pass block because Arians decided to sit him the 4th week of the preseason and give CJ0K a long look. So the coach now has his best weapon sitting on the sideline when he could be breaking out the next 3 weeks and taking this starting job from the 185 pound 3rd down back they are currently using as a workhorse.On the surface that screams Arians had no intention of using DJ this year. Why would he not get a long look at DJ during the 4th week of the preseason? Hell, have him pass block the entire game. Arians doesn't coach fantasy football.Sitting your best offensive weapon on the sidelines helps the Cardinals win? Not doing everything you can to figure out if he can pass block is ######ed. Best offensive weapon isn't defined as the guy that can score the most fantasy points in a PPR league and break out over the next 3 weeks.Yeah, busting a 55 yard TD on your first touch as a professional is only valuable in fantasy football.I'd say this is correct in regard to these specific 55 yards and this specific TD. Meant zero in the real game. Edited September 20, 2015 by matuski Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 31,155 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Another words?We don't get french benefits?I think we know what he meant for all intensive purposes.Now you're just pouring salt in the womb.This thread is like walking through a mindfield. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RBM 4,899 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I always love when these things boil down to the one side defending the coaches and saying trust them to do the right thing and the other side ready to anoint their guy as the second coming. Obviously every case is different but I will say, a lot of these coaches are dummies. I'll leave it at that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
humpback 1,183 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 We still don't know if DJ can pass block because Arians decided to sit him the 4th week of the preseason and give CJ0K a long look. So the coach now has his best weapon sitting on the sideline when he could be breaking out the next 3 weeks and taking this starting job from the 185 pound 3rd down back they are currently using as a workhorse.On the surface that screams Arians had no intention of using DJ this year. Why would he not get a long look at DJ during the 4th week of the preseason? Hell, have him pass block the entire game. Arians doesn't coach fantasy football.Sitting your best offensive weapon on the sidelines helps the Cardinals win? Not doing everything you can to figure out if he can pass block is ######ed. Best offensive weapon isn't defined as the guy that can score the most fantasy points in a PPR league and break out over the next 3 weeks.Yeah, busting a 55 yard TD on your first touch as a professional is only valuable in fantasy football.I'd say this is correct in regard to these specific 55 yards and this specific TD. Meant zero in the real game.Yeah, putting your team up by 2 scores with ~1:30 left in the game is meaningless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hankmoody 3,781 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Supposably he's really good, but the scouts might of been wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bostonfred 31,079 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Well paid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hankmoody 3,781 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Weir not doing typos Fred, theirs plenty of time for that later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rove! 2,095 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 A lot dummies on both side of this thing.Gotta love the dummies who like to play iToughguy and say he's not coaching your fantasy team, as if there is no synergy and correlation between individual fantasy success and team victories.coach has already said that D Johnson is a developing player and that his role will expand this week and is expected to expand in successive weeks. He is a developing guy, and Arians doesn't want to throw him into the fire too fast. It's a long term strategy, not an indication that he is lacking any of the skills required for the job. If not CJ, then Kerwynn Williams...while DJ is still growing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bracie Smathers 3,812 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Another words?We don't get french benefits?I think we know what he meant for all intensive purposes.Now you're just pouring salt in the womb.This thread is like walking through a mindfield. You guys are irrigating me now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kutta 5,582 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Thanks for clearing that up moody. It still doesn't explain why Arians didn't play David Johnson in the 4th preseason game if he's not sure what he has in the rookie. Another words he's a stubborn ###.Maybe they didn't want their prized rookie getting hurt in a meaningless game Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zamboni 7,457 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Don't know who this source is, but something to watch...ARI - Arizona RBs will share snaps - Sun Sep 20, 12:51 PMArizona Cardinals RB Chris Johnson will be the starting running back for the Week 2 game against the Chicago Bears, but he will share snaps with RB David Johnson, according to a source. Each running back has a package of plays for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Omniscient Deity 29 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Was watching NFL Network's pre-kickoff show. One of the sideline reporters said that according a source, it'll be a relatively even split when it comes to workload(not sure if this means snaps or actual touches).I guess maybe gaining yards is as important as blocking. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 2,348 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Thanks for clearing that up moody. It still doesn't explain why Arians didn't play David Johnson in the 4th preseason game if he's not sure what he has in the rookie.Another words he's a stubborn ###.Maybe they didn't want their prized rookie getting hurt in a meaningless game That's possible if they already knew what they have in him. If they don't they have to play him to find out and since he missed time in the preseason the 4th game was a perfect time to do that. If they come out today and give David Johnson 20 touches then you will be correct and they were just hiding him. I have my doubts though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasmaDogPlasma 7,345 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 lolI've seen 2 plays by this guy and they were both TDs 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RBM 4,899 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Ok this guy might be ridiculous Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SameSongNDance 7,014 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Is this guy serious? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alex P Keaton 4,333 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 We still don't know if DJ can pass block because Arians decided to sit him the 4th week of the preseason and give CJ0K a long look. So the coach now has his best weapon sitting on the sideline when he could be breaking out the next 3 weeks and taking this starting job from the 185 pound 3rd down back they are currently using as a workhorse.On the surface that screams Arians had no intention of using DJ this year. Why would he not get a long look at DJ during the 4th week of the preseason? Hell, have him pass block the entire game. Arians doesn't coach fantasy football.Sitting your best offensive weapon on the sidelines helps the Cardinals win? Not doing everything you can to figure out if he can pass block is ######ed. Best offensive weapon isn't defined as the guy that can score the most fantasy points in a PPR league and break out over the next 3 weeks.Yeah, busting a 55 yard TD on your first touch as a professional is only valuable in fantasy football. I'd say this is correct in regard to these specific 55 yards and this specific TD. Meant zero in the real game.Does a kickoff return for a TD on the opening play count? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alex P Keaton 4,333 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 lolI've seen 2 plays by this guy and they were both TDsJust lucky. He can't pass protect. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 2,348 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Idk maybe being good at scoring TDs in FF correlates with being good for your actual team too. LOLOLOLOLOL @ everybody that doubts this dude is the best offensive weapon on this team and needs as many touches as possible. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasmaDogPlasma 7,345 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Does a kickoff return for a TD on the opening play count?Meaningless first minute garbage time 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 31,155 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I was like who is the giant guy returning kicks? Oh wait, he's gone. Wow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 2,348 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Kerwynn Williams ladies and gentleman. jfc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Run It Up 916 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) First touch in the NFL 55 yard TD run.Second touch, a 108 yard kickoff return for a TD.S'okay Edited September 20, 2015 by Run It Up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Otis 13,711 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 unreal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matuski 5,025 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 We still don't know if DJ can pass block because Arians decided to sit him the 4th week of the preseason and give CJ0K a long look. So the coach now has his best weapon sitting on the sideline when he could be breaking out the next 3 weeks and taking this starting job from the 185 pound 3rd down back they are currently using as a workhorse.On the surface that screams Arians had no intention of using DJ this year. Why would he not get a long look at DJ during the 4th week of the preseason? Hell, have him pass block the entire game. Arians doesn't coach fantasy football.Sitting your best offensive weapon on the sidelines helps the Cardinals win? Not doing everything you can to figure out if he can pass block is ######ed. Best offensive weapon isn't defined as the guy that can score the most fantasy points in a PPR league and break out over the next 3 weeks.Yeah, busting a 55 yard TD on your first touch as a professional is only valuable in fantasy football. I'd say this is correct in regard to these specific 55 yards and this specific TD. Meant zero in the real game.Does a kickoff return for a TD on the opening play count?Not sure what you mean by counting... but yes this play would be meaningful to the game whereas the first was not. Is this confusing for you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SameSongNDance 7,014 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 This is the dumbest #### ever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RBM 4,899 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Lol,another td Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zamboni 7,457 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 All he does is score TDs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chaka 6,241 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 3 touches, 3 tds. 1 rush, 1kr and 1 receiving. Has that ever happened to start a career before? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 31,155 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 He's not ready yet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alex P Keaton 4,333 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) We still don't know if DJ can pass block because Arians decided to sit him the 4th week of the preseason and give CJ0K a long look. So the coach now has his best weapon sitting on the sideline when he could be breaking out the next 3 weeks and taking this starting job from the 185 pound 3rd down back they are currently using as a workhorse.On the surface that screams Arians had no intention of using DJ this year. Why would he not get a long look at DJ during the 4th week of the preseason? Hell, have him pass block the entire game. Arians doesn't coach fantasy football.Sitting your best offensive weapon on the sidelines helps the Cardinals win? Not doing everything you can to figure out if he can pass block is ######ed. Best offensive weapon isn't defined as the guy that can score the most fantasy points in a PPR league and break out over the next 3 weeks.Yeah, busting a 55 yard TD on your first touch as a professional is only valuable in fantasy football. I'd say this is correct in regard to these specific 55 yards and this specific TD. Meant zero in the real game.Does a kickoff return for a TD on the opening play count? Not sure what you mean by counting... but yes this play would be meaningful to the game whereas the first was not. Is this confusing for you?Nope. Not confused at all. Another touch just now, another TD for Johnson. Btw, I don't own him, so this isn't some bizarre personal bias. Edited September 20, 2015 by Alex P Keaton Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pbandy1 579 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 this guy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
addicted2ff 19 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 DJ is soooo good. His stiff arms make him look like a man among boys. He's going to be a future elite RB in both real life and fantasy. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matuski 5,025 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 We still don't know if DJ can pass block because Arians decided to sit him the 4th week of the preseason and give CJ0K a long look. So the coach now has his best weapon sitting on the sideline when he could be breaking out the next 3 weeks and taking this starting job from the 185 pound 3rd down back they are currently using as a workhorse.On the surface that screams Arians had no intention of using DJ this year. Why would he not get a long look at DJ during the 4th week of the preseason? Hell, have him pass block the entire game. Arians doesn't coach fantasy football.Sitting your best offensive weapon on the sidelines helps the Cardinals win? Not doing everything you can to figure out if he can pass block is ######ed. Best offensive weapon isn't defined as the guy that can score the most fantasy points in a PPR league and break out over the next 3 weeks.Yeah, busting a 55 yard TD on your first touch as a professional is only valuable in fantasy football. I'd say this is correct in regard to these specific 55 yards and this specific TD. Meant zero in the real game.Does a kickoff return for a TD on the opening play count? Not sure what you mean by counting... but yes this play would be meaningful to the game whereas the first was not. Is this confusing for you?Nope. Not confused at all.Another touch just now, another TD for Johnson. Btw, I don't own him, so this isn't some bizarre personal bias.I love the guy and own him everywhere. Never changed the fact that a single touch at the end of a game that was already over was meaningless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 2,348 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Can't wait until the diminutive Ellington comes back to be the 3 down workhorse for the Cards and DJ is back at the #3RB spot. You know where this rookie belongs. lololololol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
humpback 1,183 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I love the guy and own him everywhere. Never changed the fact that a single touch at the end of a game that was already over was meaningless. It was a 1 score game at the time, it sealed the win for them. Far from meaningless. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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