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RB/WR Ty Montgomery, NE (1 Viewer)
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Interseptopus
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I'm starting him at flex over Diggs, Crowell, Ajayi.
I honestly expect him to be my highest scoring WR/RB this week. PPR league
I honestly expect him to be my highest scoring WR/RB this week. PPR league
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Huh, you're right. When I Googled "Ty Montgomery height weight" it said 6-2, but I see from all the links below that it's 6-0.JFS171 said:
LawFitz
Footballguy
I have a similar feeling about tonight, but I'm nervous that Don Jackson is going to steal the show. Thinking about Ty over Baldwin (@AZ), but am leaning against it as of now.
I can't remember where I saw it but I seem to recall Ty profiled as a possible RB at the combine and the pack toyed with that idea a little bit during camp his rookie year. RB is one of the easiest positions to learn, I think he has a chance to be the guy if he shows wellzftcg said:
Do you think he could actually be a between-the-tackles guy, or just a Riddick/Sproles type?
sho nuff
Footballguy
Id probably stick with Baldwin.
Fitz seems very dependent on TDs...Atl did well against them, but Larry at his age is not Julio (QB situation also a bit different).
strong
Footballguy
Cowboysfan8 said:
yeah maybe.
maybe i'm being an idiot, but my thoughts are that since i'm playing a better team i'd rather go for the homerun... if he gets 5-10 carries and 6+ targets, i think he's got the better chance for a huge game...
but i've still got 5 hours to waffle on it!
From when he was drafted a few years ago (courtesy of Rotoworld):
Packers selected Stanford WR Ty Montgomery with the No. 94 overall pick in the 2015 NFL draft.
Montgomery (6'0/221) was an "OW" (Offensive Weapon) at Stanford, parlaying 172 career catches into 2,125 yards (12.4 YPR) and 15 touchdowns. Montgomery added four rushing TDs, three on kickoff returns and two as a punt returner. Although not a natural catcher of the football, Montgomery has plus size and athleticism, running 4.55 in Indy with a 40 1/2-inch vertical and 10-foot-1 broad jump. Some draft analysts have suggested Montgomery take up running back full time. Others liken him to a cross between Cordarrelle Patterson and Mohamed Sanu. Either way, Montgomery should immediately make an impact as a return specialist. The Pack could utilize him as a gadget player on offense as a rookie.
The Packers view third-round WR Ty Montgomery as a "bigger" Randall Cobb.
Packers scout Sam Seale made the comparison. Montgomery has return ability and running back skills after the catch that remind of Cobb, but he struggled as a receiver throughout his college career. Montgomery could make an early impact on special teams, but he has to improve as a pure receiver before he makes a significant impact on offense.
Packers third-round pick Ty Montgomery has dropped his weight to 212 after weighing 221 at the NFL Combine.
Some draftniks suggested Montgomery's best NFL position would be running back, but the Packers view him as an inside receiver with return value. Shedding weight confirms the Packers don't see him as a running back. Micah Hyde should keep Green Bay's primary punt return job, but Montgomery could be a factor on kickoffs. He returned three kicks for touchdowns at Stanford.
Source: Packer Report
Fri, May 8, 2015 09:22:00 PM
Packers selected Stanford WR Ty Montgomery with the No. 94 overall pick in the 2015 NFL draft.
Montgomery (6'0/221) was an "OW" (Offensive Weapon) at Stanford, parlaying 172 career catches into 2,125 yards (12.4 YPR) and 15 touchdowns. Montgomery added four rushing TDs, three on kickoff returns and two as a punt returner. Although not a natural catcher of the football, Montgomery has plus size and athleticism, running 4.55 in Indy with a 40 1/2-inch vertical and 10-foot-1 broad jump. Some draft analysts have suggested Montgomery take up running back full time. Others liken him to a cross between Cordarrelle Patterson and Mohamed Sanu. Either way, Montgomery should immediately make an impact as a return specialist. The Pack could utilize him as a gadget player on offense as a rookie.
The Packers view third-round WR Ty Montgomery as a "bigger" Randall Cobb.
Packers scout Sam Seale made the comparison. Montgomery has return ability and running back skills after the catch that remind of Cobb, but he struggled as a receiver throughout his college career. Montgomery could make an early impact on special teams, but he has to improve as a pure receiver before he makes a significant impact on offense.
Packers third-round pick Ty Montgomery has dropped his weight to 212 after weighing 221 at the NFL Combine.
Some draftniks suggested Montgomery's best NFL position would be running back, but the Packers view him as an inside receiver with return value. Shedding weight confirms the Packers don't see him as a running back. Micah Hyde should keep Green Bay's primary punt return job, but Montgomery could be a factor on kickoffs. He returned three kicks for touchdowns at Stanford.
Source: Packer Report
Fri, May 8, 2015 09:22:00 PM
LawFitz
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mnmplayer
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He had 39 career rushes in college, so gotta just have been used for gadget plays mostly. The only college rush I saw on a highlight reel was a reverse. He is a long strider WR type from what I saw in his highlights after the catch, which is to be expected from a WR. I did not see any between the tackles rushing. It's doubtful he could be a full time between the tackles rusher at the pro-level. He could be a nice Riddick type in PPR tho.
Big Blue Wrecking Crew
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Right now, in over Michael Thomas, Kenny Britt, and Will Fuller, but wavering with Thomas.
Interseptopus
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Interseptopus
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Anyone nervous about Don Jackson?
I can't find myself too nervous to sit Monty because of him getting most of the RB duties. It makes sense... he's the only RB on the roster (besides Davis). Monty doesn't come across as a guy who would get a lot of the rushing between the tackles. With Adams hurt Monty is likely moving out to the WR position during obvious passing downs. Just the sheer target potential I think you have to play him. I'm not too bummed about Jackson because we knew they had some RBs. Davis isn't going to eat in to his action much, maybe Christine Michael in Dallas type work.
12 targets last week with a healthy Lacy. I expect more of the same if not better tonight without Adams and Jackson as the only one who knows the plays
I can't find myself too nervous to sit Monty because of him getting most of the RB duties. It makes sense... he's the only RB on the roster (besides Davis). Monty doesn't come across as a guy who would get a lot of the rushing between the tackles. With Adams hurt Monty is likely moving out to the WR position during obvious passing downs. Just the sheer target potential I think you have to play him. I'm not too bummed about Jackson because we knew they had some RBs. Davis isn't going to eat in to his action much, maybe Christine Michael in Dallas type work.
12 targets last week with a healthy Lacy. I expect more of the same if not better tonight without Adams and Jackson as the only one who knows the plays
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Not really.
I knew some back would get 10-15 touches with Ty getting 3rd down work, some carries and mostly receptions out of the backfield.
JFS171
Footballguy
Based on what, exactly? The fact that he hasn't done it yet? OK... doesn't mean he can't do it, and he has a prototype body and athleticism for the position. Can he learn blocking schemes and such? I'm not sure... but I wouldn't say it's doubtful. We really don't know that just yet. We've seen plenty of converted WRs do pretty well as RBs, they just transitioned in college. We've also seen other position switches at the pro level, like Edelman and Pryor from QB to WR.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Pretty much. I haven't seen it yet. If he can then great. can he pass protect? I don't know the answers to these questions. Hopefully he can make that switch
mnmplayer
Footballguy
Never said he can't do it, just said it was doubtful. Please point to converted RBs that were successful at the pro level after making a switch at the pro level. I can't think of any. Doesn't mean there are not any out there. Willing to listen...
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JFS171
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I'm not arguing it's likely, but his own QB said it was his best position, and McCarthy came out after the game on Sunday and said Ty did a lot of very good things and needed the ball more. Tells me he's the passing down back right now. Can he become more? Well the thing that stops most WRs from even considering a switch to RB is build, and Montgomery is built like a brick ####house, or was at the combine.
I'm doing the same. Can't trust that Pryor is going to be healthy.
Anybody waiting on a decision to start him depeding on D. Adam's status? If Adams is ruled out, I'd think that more doors are opened and his floor and ceiling are both higher.
mnmplayer
Footballguy
I think somebody pointed out he fumbled on only 3 carries. To be honest I am not sure if this came from a catch or a between the tackles rush, but nothing on film has shown me he could be an every down between the tackles rusher aside from his size. He is like Swaggy in that respect (who was a converted WR from college)... but I digress. Sure edge rushes, swings, outlets, pitches, dump offs, catches ... get him in space he could be productive. But that's a lot different from carrying the ball 15-20 times between the tackles.
LawFitz
Footballguy
He fumbled on a between the tackles rush to end the game.
That said, I still might start him tonight at my WR3 spot (if Davis, Adams and Abbrederis are all out).
massraider
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Starting him because he's on TV.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
I do this all the time. It never seems to go down the middle. I either get a stellar performance or I pull my hair out watching my hopes go down the tubes.
But I like your style, so I'll join you!
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http://www.nfl.com/inactives
Davante Adams active. With conflicting reports on whether Jackson or Montgomery are primary back, not sure what to think
Davante Adams active. With conflicting reports on whether Jackson or Montgomery are primary back, not sure what to think
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Footballguy
montgomery is flying up WR rankings today.
as of right now, koerner has him at #15, paulsen at #20, and scott pianowski and justine boone both at #26...
those are higher rankings than i'd have expected for a waiver wire grab from those guys...
EDIT: a couple of the main FBG staff rankings have him in the #16-#20 range too...
start him with confidence!
as of right now, koerner has him at #15, paulsen at #20, and scott pianowski and justine boone both at #26...
those are higher rankings than i'd have expected for a waiver wire grab from those guys...
EDIT: a couple of the main FBG staff rankings have him in the #16-#20 range too...
start him with confidence!
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I just can't force myself to do it. I have to choose 3 of Montgomery, Gilislee, Ware, Bernard, and Quizz Rodgers. I cannot justify starting Monty over any of those assuming they all start. I think I'm going to just sit tight this week with Jackson and Montgomery on my bench and keep the guy who shows something.
LawFitz
Footballguy
With both RBs active, I'm out on Ty tonight. This is his game log for this year. Look at what he's done in prior weeks when they had healthy RBs and he didn't get 13 looks out of the backfield. 10 of his 12 target passes were as an RB last week.
WK
OPP
REC
YDS
TD
PTS
1
@Jax
0
0
0
0.7
2
@Min
0
0
0
1.1
3
Det
0
0
0
1.1
4
BYE
-
-
-
-
5
NYG
0
0
0
1.3
6
Dal
10
98
0
16.6
WK
OPP
REC
YDS
TD
PTS
1
@Jax
0
0
0
0.7
2
@Min
0
0
0
1.1
3
Det
0
0
0
1.1
4
BYE
-
-
-
-
5
NYG
0
0
0
1.3
6
Dal
10
98
0
16.6
sho nuff
Footballguy
VikingFrog
Footballguy
What about the Packers reporter saying he will get most of the running back Reps?
Ilov80s
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
how on earth is adams active? Cant see starting him now
sho nuff
Footballguy
That was from this morning.
My assumptions were starting him meant 6-8 receptions and at least a handful of rushing attempts. Just not sure that's too likely.
He could break one, but just feels like the odds favor him reaching his floor vs. ceiling.
