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Guess I'm assuming facts not in evidence. Forget it.
Nope, not angry either and I play in a PPR league.
Not sure what about "Football to the groin" sounds angry.
Guess I'm assuming facts not in evidence. Forget it.
Nope, not angry either and I play in a PPR league.
Not sure what about "Football to the groin" sounds angry.
Not sure about the tastes of most here but it sounds more angry than fun to me.
Nope, not angry either and I play in a PPR league.
Not sure what about "Football to the groin" sounds angry.
Zach Berman @ZBerm
Seeing a lot more Nelson Agholor on the outside tonight. You can see how much better he's playing than '16, when he spent most of his time on the outside. Have heard defensive players rave about his potential. He's going to keep getting better.
It doesn't reflect badly on him anymore than an 8 rush for 13 yards reflects badly on any RB. Was it his line's fault, was it his fault? Who cares, the stat line sux. Who said it reflected badly on Nelson? Its a horrible stat line is all I said. Not something to get excited about. Even if he continued to get your 11+ points each week with the same state line, its unsustainable as he will be replaced as it doesnt help his real football team. Nobody is going to make a career out of 8 for 33 receiving stat lines long term. It sux.oldmanhawkins said:Still confused. Sure, 4 ypr is almost unheard of. Why does it reflect badly on Nelson, in this case?
That's what we are in dynasty. 0.5 ppr.1.0 PPR is ridiculous, as anyone who is mathematically inclined realized long ago, and as Yahoo! has now conceded. PPR came into existence for only one reason: to give WRs comparable value to RBs. In a 12-team league where rosters start 3 WRs and with 0.5 PPR, WRs compare fully with RBs across the tiers.
To be fair there are only like 5 receivers in the NFL who possess Tate's yac ability but I still agree. Agholor's average depth of target was 5.3 yards on Thursday, that's like Benjamin Watson territory. PHI's vertical game has to be more than Wallace running fly routes because Wallace isn't scaring anyone.BLOCKED_PUNT said:He's not Golden Tate and the Eagles need to use him vertically.
RB value is still much much higher than wr these days. From a positional drop off, to the scarcity of the position, RB value is huge. Even in PPR the top rbs will go before the top wrs, so I do not think 1.0 PPR is "ridiculous" by ANY stretch of the imagination. I agree I prefer .5ppr if its start 3wr, but 1 if its start 2.1.0 PPR is ridiculous, as anyone who is mathematically inclined realized long ago, and as Yahoo! has now conceded. PPR came into existence for only one reason: to give WRs comparable value to RBs. In a 12-team league where rosters start 3 WRs and with 0.5 PPR, WRs compare fully with RBs across the tiers.
It's not that Agholor is a slouch when it comes to speed. I think it was just the plan going in, let Foles get some easier throws in the short field, and eventually stretch the field. They never got to the 2nd part of that plan since he's the definition of a backup QB. Agholor being literally the only competent receiver at all in the Atlanta game is the reason he got peppered with targets. Good sign going forward when Jeffery/Wentz come back.To be fair there are only like 5 receivers in the NFL who possess Tate's yac ability but I still agree. Agholor's average depth of target was 5.3 yards on Thursday, that's like Benjamin Watson territory. PHI's vertical game has to be more than Wallace running fly routes because Wallace isn't scaring anyone.
Nelson Agholor caught 8-of-12 targets for 95 yards and a touchdown in the Eagles' Week 2 loss at Tampa Bay.
Agholor has double-digit targets in each of the first two weeks, and there is some belief Carson Wentz (knee) could return for Week 3 versus Indianapolis. With Alshon Jeffery (shoulder) slated to miss at least one more game, Agholor will remain a volume monster. He's earned WR2 treatment for the foreseeable future.
Yeah...well...um...no.Just looked at FBGs points against data. Two things stand out:
* TN D ranks 8th worst pass D vs. WRs in terms of points allowed.
* TN D ranks THE BEST against limiting TE production.
Granted, TN has faced a bunch of bums at TE, but it wouldn't surprise me if a Vrabel led team is solid against TEs.
Maybe the gameplan shifts towards a more WR centric approach this week.
Debating Agholor vs. T. Lockett this week. This data has me leaning Agholor...especially if Jeffery is out. Actually, Jeffery playing could help even more if TN is preoccupied with the 2 TEs.
Targets through four weeks: 10, 12, 5, 12Went from debating if I should start him to debating if I should drop him now.
If targets got me points I'd be impressed.Targets through four weeks: 10, 12, 5, 12
Most of us subscribe to the theory that opportunity gets you points, but feel free to toss him onto the scrap heap.If targets got me points I'd be impressed.
Well targets usually leads to receptions which leads to points in a ppr league. So when it comes to Agholor I would say PPR = Hold & Standard Scoring = DropIf targets got me points I'd be impressed.
Anyone with a target total?Well targets usually leads to receptions which leads to points in a ppr league. So when it comes to Agholor I would say PPR = Hold & Standard Scoring = Drop
Only 4 targets vs Minn.. caught all 4.Anyone with a target total?
Thought this would be his kind of game in the slot with Rhodes matched up with Jeffery. It also seems likes it's Z. Ertz all day all the time.
NYG somewhat burnable by slot WRs, but that's what I thought this week. Also would have to think the pass game may pick up with Ajayi now out.
Hard to hold on to this guy.
Nelson Agholor caught 3-of-5 targets for 91 yards in the Eagles' Week 6 win over the Giants.
The yards were Agholor's most of the season but came in fluky fashion. His first catch was a 32-yarder that came on a batted ball. His second was a 58-yarder where the defense failed to account for him as he kept running a route as Carson Wentz escaped pressure. The three grabs were Agholor's fewest of the season, while he's now drawn five or fewer looks in 3-of-4 Wentz starts. Agholor will be a low-floor WR3 for Week 7 against the Panthers.
Oct 12 - 12:02 AM
Yea he's officially dropable now even in PPR. 91 yards tonight were definitely flukish. The most important thing I'm looking at are the targets. 5 targets tonight, 4 targets last week, no bueno.Anyone with a target total?
Thought this would be his kind of game in the slot with Rhodes matched up with Jeffery. It also seems likes it's Z. Ertz all day all the time.
NYG somewhat burnable by slot WRs, but that's what I thought this week. Also would have to think the pass game may pick up with Ajayi now out.
Hard to hold on to this guy.
Wouldn't say he's droppable yet, but targets are definitely concerning. Alshon is going to start seeing more coverage though. Carson just loves throwing to Alshon and Ertz. I think we can expect 7 targets a game going forward, and games like 5 for 75.Yea he's officially dropable now even in PPR. 91 yards tonight were definitely flukish. The most important thing I'm looking at are the targets. 5 targets tonight, 4 targets last week, no bueno.
Personally I'm going to keep stashing him on my bench only due to the fact that I own him in a fairly deep league and don't really like what I'm seeing on the waiver wire. Don't really have high expectations for him though unless Alshon gets hurt again.
NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports teams believe Nelson Agholor is available for trade.
Agholor is entering the final year of his contract and is set to get a massive raise to $9.387 million after making just over $1.7 million last season. The Eagles are already paying Alshon Jeffery and DeSean Jackson big money at receiver, so having Agholor make that much as the third wideout doesn't make a whole lot of sense. The Eagles could end up flipping him if they select a receiver this weekend.
SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Apr 24, 2019, 12:08 PM
ESPN's Adam Schefter suspects the Eagles' selection of Stanford WR JJ Arcega-Whiteside could spell the end of Nelson Agholor's tenure with Philadelphia.
The Eagles had made Agholor available for trade even before selecting Arcega-Whiteside with the 57th pick Thursday night. The fifth-year slot receiver has never quite delivered on his first-round promise, though he's been productive the past two seasons, compiling a respectable 126-1,504-12 receiving line during that span. Agholor is owed an extravagant $9.387 million over the final year of his rookie deal.
SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Apr 26, 2019, 8:28 PM
Nelson Agholor, WR, Year 5
After an offseason of questions and rumors, Agholor has looked good so far this spring. He's a little bigger but still has his speed and is making plays.
"I think Nelson has had a really good offseason," Pederson said.
Because he's playing on his fifth-year option year, Agholor, 26, has an inflated salary of nearly $9.4 million in 2019. It's also a contract year; he'll be a free agent at the end of this coming season. If he has a big year, he could earn a lot of money on the open market in nine months.
Philly Voice's Jimmy Kempski listed Nelson Agholor as one of the most impressive Eagles of the summer and expects him to be a "significant part" of the offense.
The Eagles reportedly had cast Agholor's name into the trade waters earlier in the offseason but found no takers. There was some concern Agholor might not stay with the team due to his $9.387 million salary and addition of DeSean Jackson behind Alshon Jeffery. But Agholor has responded with a strong camp and figures to have the No. 3 receiver gig locked down. We wouldn't expect some monster season out of Agholor, mainly because the Eagles project to be one of the top users of "12 personnel" featuring one running back, two tight ends, and two wideouts. Agholor's snaps are likely to be dialed back in 2019.
SOURCE: Philly Voice
Aug 21, 2019, 9:52 AM ET
Nelson Agholor caught 8-of-11 targets for 107 yards and a touchdown in Week 2 against the Falcons.
Agholor was forced into the No. 1 role with DeSean Jackson (groin) and Alshon Jeffery (calf) leaving early with injuries. He had a quiet night before a 43-yard catch on fourth down with under two minutes remaining. Agholor struggled with some drops, but he gave the Eagles a chance to win late. Agholor would have plug-and-play value if one of Jackson or Jeffery sits next week.
Sep 16, 2019, 12:10 AM ET
I thought he looked awesome... maybe that's a bit much though.^ Awful blurb. He had a good game until he had a bad drop at the end that would have given them the lead with 1:45 to play. But until then and after then he was good and dominated snaps with Alshon and DeSean injured. Rotoworld's blurb, as usual, is surprisingly written and leads me to question whether they watched the game. He made some nice catches on bad throws but had that horrible miss. An up and down night.
I thought looking awesome would have been hauling in that throw in the end zone in the first half. He went up just a little early for that. He got tagged regardless and the ball had been overthrown and behind, as per Wentz's wont last night. And that drop was a game-winner. I forget how much time was left, but it was under two mins.I thought he looked awesome... maybe that's a bit much though.
In my defense I didn't see the end of the game (until I just looked it up). But you're right he should have caught it.I thought looking awesome would have been hauling in that throw in the end zone in the first half. He went up just a little early for that. He got tagged regardless and the ball had been overthrown and behind, as per Wentz's wont last night. And that drop was a game-winner. I forget how much time was left, but it was under two mins.
But yes, as somebody who grabbed him off of the wire and started him for fun and to get in on the game, he was awesome for fantasy purposes, very good overall for performance's sake. He was the leader of the WR corps after DJax and Alshon went down, often hand signaling to Wentz about coverages and the like.
I'd monitor him as a few week fill-in if they remain out. But you've got to be deep-benched and desperate, IMHO.
He pretty much gained all of the yards they gained on that drive with his catch at the end, so he really would have been 10 targets and 9-130-2, which is still awesome.Dropped a walk-in 65 yard TD or he would have had 11-170 2 TD
Nelson Agholor caught 8-of-12 targets for 50 yards and two touchdowns in the Eagles' Week 3 loss to the Lions.
Anyone who watched the game got the full 'Nelson Agholor Experience' as he dropped a crucial third down target in the first half, fumbled the ball over to Detroit inside the two-minute mark, then responded in the third quarter by pin-balling off opposing defenders for a 20-yard touchdown sprint. His second touchdown was an easy pick-play assisted by Mack Hollins (4/62) along the goal line. Agholor will continue to see a team-high share of targets without Alshon Jeffery (calf) and DeSean Jackson (abdominal) in the interim, but the 26-year-old slot wideout can't be counted on if the aforementioned duo return as early as Thursday. Budget your FAAB accordingly.
Sep 22, 2019, 5:05 PM ET
That's simply not true but...I'd already dropped him for The Unicorn. He has no value once DeSean and Alshon come back from injury.
Guy averages very few points and projects to hit his average. Actually, Rotoworld's blurb points out he averages seven points per game over the past two seasons. You can have that output for all I'm concerned. I'm holding out. The Unicorn is averaging that, and has an upside. He's not the fifth option or so on offense.That's simply not true but...
Guy has 125+ receptions, 1,600 yds, 12 TDs over like his last 20 starts last 2 seasons and then he has 100/TD last week, 2TDs this week...don't be so fast to turn the page n this guy to jump on top of the unicorn