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Members 16,204 31,897 posts Gender:Not Telling Report post Posted 4 minutes ago I have been contacted by several posters for my thoughts.  I struggled with coming back ev

The entire written statement from General Mattis should be required reading:

Spent the day at the DC marches yesterday. It was mostly peaceful, respectful. Angry at times, but definitely peaceful. We had a hiccup at one point after a group gathered at the Lincoln for some spee

Just now, Andy Dufresne said:

Why take him out of a car he was already in? 

Did they have him in one car, take him out, and try and put him in a different one? There were multiple squad cars there at once.

Hard to know from the video.  There looked to be some mild level of struggle/activity going on in the back seat prior to Floyd being pulled out of the car.  I thought I heard somewhere Floyd was claiming to be claustrophobic.  But I do not remember where that came from so take it for what it is worth.  

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1 hour ago, Stealthycat said:

Floyd was a big man, a felon, committing forgery it appears, maybe resisting ... but the police officer committed a murder, his 3 non-white police buddies watched ... there should be and will be heavy penalties for that 

Actually, two of the three participated in the killing. 

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20 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Why take him out of a car he was already in? 

Did they have him in one car, take him out, and try and put him in a different one? There were multiple squad cars there at once.

Might answer some of your questions,  this breakdown was pretty good I thought.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/30/video-timeline-george-floyd-death/?arc404=true

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1 hour ago, sho nuff said:

Right?  Umm, no, we don't know.  Which is part of the point .  But i countered the claims you made.  And it wasn’t just a discussion about this but about the years previous.

any attempt to claim its all just the left appears to be completely unsupported by fact.

some opinion from a liberal media outlet isn't proof of anything 

do me this - go to CNN and FOXNEWS and pull today's photo's of looting/riots and then tell me the following

- are they wearing MAGA hats ?

- what are their shirts saying?

- what nationality are the ones coming out of the stores with tv's and appliances and clothes etc?

 

in fact, break down the pictures with me, lets look at them, tell me what you see and if you come away thinking they are anything but 99% Democratic left voters and in no way, shape of form Trump voters / conservative I'll be shocked

don't cherry pick - you and I both can find photo's on the internet to make a point (like the "undercover police" guy breaking windows the other night lol

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4 minutes ago, Stealthycat said:

some opinion from a liberal media outlet isn't proof of anything 

do me this - go to CNN and FOXNEWS and pull today's photo's of looting/riots and then tell me the following

- are they wearing MAGA hats ?

- what are their shirts saying?

- what nationality are the ones coming out of the stores with tv's and appliances and clothes etc?

 

in fact, break down the pictures with me, lets look at them, tell me what you see and if you come away thinking they are anything but 99% Democratic left voters and in no way, shape of form Trump voters / conservative I'll be shocked

don't cherry pick - you and I both can find photo's on the internet to make a point (like the "undercover police" guy breaking windows the other night lol

Liberal media outlet?  I cited the adl, business insider , csis and congressional reporting.  There were studies and statistics and reports.  It wasn't just some liberal opinion or something to blindly claim was fake news.

Did anyone claim there were maga shirts in recent riots?

Ive backed up my point and countered the claims you made about things over the years.  
The rest is the moving goalposts and change to somethjng else...Im not going to do that with you.  

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14 minutes ago, mozzy84 said:

Might answer some of your questions,  this breakdown was pretty good I thought.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/30/video-timeline-george-floyd-death/?arc404=true

So it seems that got him in the back driver's side, something happened, they pull him out the passenger side and pin him down.

Whatever the "something happened" was doesn't seem relevant.

Chauvin killed that guy. Did he just freeze? I'd ask, "What was he thinking?" but I'm pretty sure the answer is "nothing".

He's going to jail for a long time.

And yeah, the other guys are culpable of something.

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7 minutes ago, Stealthycat said:

some opinion from a liberal media outlet isn't proof of anything 

do me this - go to CNN and FOXNEWS and pull today's photo's of looting/riots and then tell me the following

- are they wearing MAGA hats ?

- what are their shirts saying?

- what nationality are the ones coming out of the stores with tv's and appliances and clothes etc?

in fact, break down the pictures with me, lets look at them, tell me what you see and if you come away thinking they are anything but 99% Democratic left voters and in no way, shape of form Trump voters / conservative I'll be shocked

don't cherry pick - you and I both can find photo's on the internet to make a point (like the "undercover police" guy breaking windows the other night lol

They are criminals, what difference does it make how they vote or what political party they are affiliated with? Doubt few if any are even registered.

And seriously, if these looters/rioters were Trump supporters, would you honestly expect them to wear MAGA hats?

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4 minutes ago, Norman Paperman said:

Republican Sen. Tim Scott: "Obviously, if your question is, should you use tear gas to clear a path so the president can go have a photo-op, the answer is no.”

Good, Republican Senators and Congressmen need to go on record. Start asking them if they approve of our military going in to our streets.

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12 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

So it seems that got him in the back driver's side, something happened, they pull him out the passenger side and pin him down.

Whatever the "something happened" was doesn't seem relevant.

Chauvin killed that guy. Did he just freeze? I'd ask, "What was he thinking?" but I'm pretty sure the answer is "nothing".

He's going to jail for a long time.

And yeah, the other guys are culpable of something.

Accessory?

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1 minute ago, The Commish said:

Can we get more dishonest than "if they aren't wearing a maga shirt then they are left fringe liberal morons!!!!!"?  I bet we can...who wants to try?

Any white guy wearing black is antifa?

Nah, your example is worse.

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Just now, The Commish said:

Can we get more dishonest than "if they aren't wearing a maga shirt then they are left fringe liberal morons!!!!!"?  I bet we can...who wants to try?

Personally, I'm for more honesty. Granted, we won't get that from the Oval Office, so we'll have to find someone who is at least reasonably honest.

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BREAKING: 2 crates filled with pipe bombs discovered near Korean War Memorial in DC after suspects spotted in bushes. Federal assets in pursuit

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8 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Jack Posobiec

@JackPosobiec

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BREAKING: 2 crates filled with pipe bombs discovered near Korean War Memorial in DC after suspects spotted in bushes. Federal assets in pursuit

Posobiec?  

Im sure the news is possible...but give a reliable person and Ill believe it.  Posobiec is far from reliable.

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14 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Jack Posobiec

@JackPosobiec

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BREAKING: 2 crates filled with pipe bombs discovered near Korean War Memorial in DC after suspects spotted in bushes. Federal assets in pursuit

Cool, lets quote neonazis for their analysis on this, I am sure they have useful input. Note, I am not calling him a neonazi because he is conservative, but because he has made mention to 1488 in his tweets numerous times (the 88 stands for Heil Hitler). You probably should not follow neonazis on twitter, it might give people the wrong idea. 

https://twitter.com/PiPArtemis/status/1211449944369979392/photo/1

https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/1488

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Just now, sho nuff said:
9 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Jack Posobiec

@JackPosobiec

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BREAKING: 2 crates filled with pipe bombs discovered near Korean War Memorial in DC after suspects spotted in bushes. Federal assets in pursuit

Posobiec?  

Im sure the news is possible...but give a reliable person and Ill believe it.  Posobiec is far from reliable.

Still waiting on:

Jack Posobiec

@JackPosobiec

Barr about to unmask all of Antifa's communications with their media and political allies Now you know why so many people are freaking out today

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Awesome interview with Detroit activist: https://www.freep.com/in-depth/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/06/02/detroit-activist-tristan-taylor-says-city-curfew-steps-rights/5195097002/ they will not be dispersing at curfew tonight.   

2nd Amendment Bros out in support (I hope?): https://twitter.com/elrick/status/1267935567528046604/photo/1

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Just thought I'd warn the masses about the potential for a hairy situation. Instead it became a shoot the messanger. 

I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere yet, but I would not be surprised if true. 

 

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Just now, Max Power said:

Just thought I'd warn the masses about the potential for a hairy situation. Instead it became a shoot the messanger. 

I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere yet, but I would not be surprised if true. 

 

It’s possible...but posobiec is a conspiracy theorist with less credibility than alex jones. He is basically an internet troll.

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These protests don’t look very organic anymore in some places you guys. Looks like a they are bussing in and paying Democrat activists now.
 

Perry Stein@PerryStein

Crowd goes crazy as Senator Warren, her husband and her dog walk through the protesters in front of White House a half hour before curfew

https://twitter.com/perrystein/status/1267947407465209856?s=21

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57 minutes ago, The Commish said:

Can we get more dishonest than "if they aren't wearing a maga shirt then they are left fringe liberal morons!!!!!"?  I bet we can...who wants to try?

No idea why anyone around here still engages with that guy.

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Lot of eyes on Providence, RI tonight. I live downtown. I have an alarm for my house and small driveway for my car.

I guess just get a bottle of whiskey and let my scared ### senior citizen dog cuddle up next to me is the plan who was scared to death last night - tremoring for hours. 

They shut down a major shopping center here at 3 PM today 2 days after Phase 2 of Covid reopening because credible mass looting threats.

No one her is protesting. No one who broke into our mall and looted last night had a sign

Oh and don't politicize this point either, these people were just criminals. I'm certain an amalgalm of liberals, republicans, and "I couldn't give a #### about politics or police brutality" (mostly the latter). 

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, Don't Noonan said:

False 

 

7 hours ago, GroveDiesel said:

Can you be more specific please?

Just wanted to follow up on this. Can you please be more specific as to which part was incorrect?

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11 minutes ago, mcintyre1 said:

Minneapolis Public School Board voted unanimously tonight to terminate agreement for SROs (School Resource Officers) with MPD, and to seek alternative resources. 

So they think every MPD officer is a racist?

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22 minutes ago, IMAX 3D said:

Lot of eyes on Providence, RI tonight. I live downtown. I have an alarm for my house and small driveway for my car.

I guess just get a bottle of whiskey and let my scared ### senior citizen dog cuddle up next to me is the plan who was scared to death last night - tremoring for hours. 

They shut down a major shopping center here at 3 PM today 2 days after Phase 2 of Covid reopening because credible mass looting threats.

No one her is protesting. No one who broke into our mall and looted last night had a sign

Oh and don't politicize this point either, these people were just criminals. I'm certain an amalgalm of liberals, republicans, and "I couldn't give a #### about politics or police brutality" (mostly the latter). 

 

 

 

Was driving through Rhode Island today and saw a lot of police activity in Warwick. Was it one of the malls they shut down?

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2 minutes ago, facook said:

So they think every MPD officer is a racist?

I doubt that is their position.  I assume this is an active way to show support of the need for reform and put pressure on the system.

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1 minute ago, steeler6 said:

Was driving through Rhode Island today and saw a lot of police activity in Warwick. Was it one of the malls they shut down?

Essentially it was an outdoor mall. A major shopping center, probably the biggest in the state. Ripe for the picking and credible threats started to coming in from where it turned from a 7 PM shut down to a 3 PM shut down so cops could be ready. I was in Warwick around 1 PM and it was fine and then all of a sudden, it just started to fill w more and more police. 

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1 minute ago, Galileo said:

I doubt that is their position.  I assume this is an active way to show support of the need for reform and put pressure on the system.

You are probably correct.  I hope you are.

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6 minutes ago, IMAX 3D said:

Essentially it was an outdoor mall. A major shopping center, probably the biggest in the state. Ripe for the picking and credible threats started to coming in from where it turned from a 7 PM shut down to a 3 PM shut down so cops could be ready. I was in Warwick around 1 PM and it was fine and then all of a sudden, it just started to fill w more and more police. 

Garden City. Yeah, that would be a free for all. My wife saw about the same threats but couldn't remember the name. 

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1 minute ago, steeler6 said:

Garden City. Yeah, that would be a free for all. My wife saw about the same threats but couldn't remember the name. 

Only good thing about Garden City is there's pretty much one way in and one way out, as massive as it is. Not a lot of places to hide if you get caught in that area looting. Which is a good thing 

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3 hours ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Why take him out of a car he was already in? 

Did they have him in one car, take him out, and try and put him in a different one? There were multiple squad cars there at once.

No idea. Some speculate that Chauvin and Floyd knew each other because they worked security at the same nightclub for years, and the owner of the club said they all knew each other, but was aware of no issues. Nothing about any beef between them has come out. Remember, Chauvin and Thao showed up late--they werent the original officers on the scene. But Chauvin immediately injected himself into it and was the one who took Floyd out of the car and kneeled on his neck. 

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28 minutes ago, facook said:

So they think every MPD officer is a racist?

Nope but at this point would you be confident in their hiring and discipline decisions? Sure some good officers will lose their positions but that should serve as motivation to get the bad apples out so that they don’t continue to affect their livelihood. It’s time to make bad cops into toxic assets that police departments can’t afford to hold onto.

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5 hours ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Right? Even if the jury wants to say not guilty you publicly declare him guilty anyway then whisk him off to a new life in "witness" protection.

He should go directly to general population

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25 minutes ago, GROOT said:

I predict if the rioting decreases ,the alarms at CNN will go off. CNN won't let that happen.

Not that I think that's true in the least but if it were, I'm guessing Fox wouldn't be too upset either.

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2 hours ago, huthut said:

Cool, lets quote neonazis for their analysis on this, I am sure they have useful input. Note, I am not calling him a neonazi because he is conservative, but because he has made mention to 1488 in his tweets numerous times (the 88 stands for Heil Hitler). You probably should not follow neonazis on twitter, it might give people the wrong idea. 

https://twitter.com/PiPArtemis/status/1211449944369979392/photo/1

https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/1488

Posobiec has long been on my feed for entertainment value. Conspiracy theorist maybe.  But cmon man he’s not a Nazi

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9 minutes ago, Don't Noonan said:

No tear gas for one

The protesters were not peaceful as well

Watch with your own eyes.

If you prefer more traditional media, here's an Australian camera crew at the same location. Australia's PM is demanding an investigation and answers for this.

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1 hour ago, IMAX 3D said:

Lot of eyes on Providence, RI tonight. I live downtown. I have an alarm for my house and small driveway for my car.

I guess just get a bottle of whiskey and let my scared ### senior citizen dog cuddle up next to me is the plan who was scared to death last night - tremoring for hours. 

They shut down a major shopping center here at 3 PM today 2 days after Phase 2 of Covid reopening because credible mass looting threats.

No one her is protesting. No one who broke into our mall and looted last night had a sign

Oh and don't politicize this point either, these people were just criminals. I'm certain an amalgalm of liberals, republicans, and "I couldn't give a #### about politics or police brutality" (mostly the latter). 

 

 

 

Sorry man, hope you come through with no issues.  Hate it for the dog too, they don't understand at all.

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1 minute ago, Kal El said:

Sure looks an awful lot like tear gas to me, and not even 30 seconds in, at that. Protesters staying peaceful and everything.

Of course, there's also the first hand account from faith leaders at the church in question confirming that tear gas was used to disperse the medics and faith leaders that were in the area.

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Just now, mcintyre1 said:

Of course, there's also the first hand account from faith leaders at the church in question confirming that tear gas was used to disperse the medics and faith leaders that were in the area.

All for a photo op for a failed president. He went to a Catholic place of prayer today and got the same treatment from their Archbishop as he got from this church's leader.

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