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Well heres the thing with that video, as bad as it is, those cops are 100% in the wrong but the guy is alive and will be compensated immensely because of their horrific behavior.shannon sharpe@ShannonSharpe · 2h
I thought all you had to do was comply and you wouldn’t be shot or brutalized by police.
you're right. Typing that myself felt a bit wrong. No point in re-phrasing, but I hope you know what I meant.
The initial 911 call, which has been released, was his girlfriend (wife?) calling on Blake. I forgot the exact circumstances, but it was something about Blake shouldn't be at the house and wasn't giving her keys back. Not sure if it was car keys or house keys. A fairly typical domestic in lower income communities.
Yes, I got your point. And don't disagree with what you were trying to say.
I understand the distrust there, but even if you don’t believe it one should at least read it to hear “the other side”. I didn’t initially believe all of the story being told by Blake’s attorney, but I at least listened to what was stated. That way, when evidence (videos, audio recordings of calls, actual evidence) is brought forth you can see who’s telling the truth and who’s full of it. I’m sure more evidence is still to come out.
I don't buy Blake's attorney's story either.
Not sure that’s true. If police were able to stop a mass school shooting by doing so I think we’d all be ok with it - especially the parents of the kids at the school. Now that wasn’t the case here, obviously. Me personally, I’d like to collect as much information about the situation as I can. Some will be hard evidence (like the videos), some will be complete BS (as statements often are). You piece it together with the information you have at hand.
Yeah cause why would you want you hear both sides?
Btw, why couldn't the officer use a baton to neutralize him? He was standing behind him and close enough to have a hold of his shirt. Instead of shooting him 7 times, why not pull out his baton and hit him until another officer can help get him under control and in handcuffs?
I don’t think officers even carry batons anymore
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What would you have him do differently if this was known.
When you say you're not going to second guess the decision its pretty clear what you mean is that you tried to second guess the decision as much as possible...but you couldn't.
Also, what gets tiresome is watching people get killed during police encounters.I don’t think officers even carry batons anymore
Look, I don’t mean to say that Blake should’ve been shot 7 times in the back , but keyboard jockeys typing out what should have been done differently by the officers gets tiresome.
These guys deserve to go home to their families after their shift and have to make split second life altering decisions.
I feel it’s safe to say that had Mr Blake not literally FOUGHT with police he wouldn’t have been shot
Why can’t that be what should have happened instead of 2nd guessing the officers?
My bad, you’re right. Guys that have warrants out and get the police called on them again for a separate incident should definitely not comply with the officers when they show up.
1) I don't think there's anything that officer specifically could have done differently. What could have happened, however, is communication between all the different encounters throughout that morning. Backup could have been called in earlier. And, in a perfect world, someone with mental health training.
Yeah it does, doesn't it? There's a solution to this though. Comply. Police have to make life and death decisions in a matter of seconds. There's a reason they give those commands. For their safety as well as the safety of the person in question.
There is. But not everyone is going to comply. It shouldn't equal a death sentence, though, unless an officer's life or someone else's life is in immediate danger. "If only he complied" isn't an excuse for that.
I edited my above post to include a video. I found it eye opening. Its easy to sit on our comfy couches and criticize decisions.
I think your point on #1 is fair, I just have a hard time applying this in any realistic form in practice.
I agree on #1
You know what else is a good point? Don’t put the police in a situation where they feel they must shoot you.
Ideally, yes. But I’m referring to a situation in which a violent, armed criminal makes a police officer believes his, or someone else’s life is in imminent danger. How many shots should the officer be allowed to fire in order to eliminate the threat?
lol...it is that simple. Parents should be teaching this to their children, right after they tell them not to eat dishwasher tabs
It’s not the kids fault for eating the dishwasher tabs. It’s the dishwasher tabs fault for poisoning the kid!
It is pretty much exactly that simple.
Not sure the officer had one to use. Many now use a taser as their non lethal weapon, rather than baton.
I mentioned this earliermatttyl said:
Oh yah a police officer beating a black man with a baton...that would go over real well.
Those were Kenosha police, as stated by the video title itself - those were federal officers. The other three videos you posted are specific to crowd control situations, and yes they are used there. For everyday officers “working their beat” (is that the term?), I don’t believe they have them on themselves.Baton 1
Baton 2
Baton 3
Specifically Kenosha police use baton to break van window and pull someone out
Sure looks like police still use batons to me
Blake’s lawyer, Ben Crump, on twitter stated “was helping to de-escalate a domestic incident” at the time.
He’ll have to face the gun charge in another state - but I do think he’ll end up walking on the more serious charges. They overcharged him, and I think they did so purposely.
There are going to be some bad people who dumb things in the world man... that’s just life. Being a cop is a difficult job but it’s one all of these guys signed up for.satch said:
