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What is stopping anyone from talking about it?
Sure there are multiple reasons. BLM also is against mass surveilence technologies which criminalize and target black communities including body cameras. Originally blm was in full support of body cameras, now many are backtracking and feel that body cameras are hurting and targeting blacks. Some are advocating reforms to how they are used and others are wanting there use banned.PinkydaPimp said:
This is one of the major issues and there should be reform. Police control what is released and whether the cams are even on(sometimes they arent on without penalty). Sometimes the video doesnt get released or is heavily edited or the release delayed. IMO the video should go to a third party, edited only to remove privacy infractions and then automatically released. Maybe give Lawyers access to the full unedited recordings. Im all for body cam video whether it exonerates an officer or a person interacting with them.
The need to immediately react regardless of facts has been a huge fuel to much of the unrest.
Are you really surprised by this? We've been force fed a constant stream of "police are bad" and that there is a racist boogeyman around every corner - FOR EVERY SHOOTING - that people's first instinct now is to riot.
No doubt. The body cameras really do help and I don't think they are going to go anywhere. You see in cases what they can deal with.
There should be significant pushback here. These are a force for truth.
There are definitely privacy issues here. Should we have cameras in high crime areas? Should we have gunshot detection systems in high crime areas?
Not the best wordage here, as it has a definite negative connotation on police action.PinkydaPimp said:
Let’s not forget the actual Police behavior that plays a huge part in the distrust of the Police.Are you really surprised by this? We've been force fed a constant stream of "police are bad" and that there is a racist boogeyman around every corner - FOR EVERY SHOOTING - that people's first instinct now is to riot.
Of course, the race hustlers want this - it's what keeps their pockets lined (Sharpton, Jackson, etc...).
Sure, but when dealing with human lives exceptions are a big deal. Also when policing 300+ million people small percentages of exceptions become large numbers
uhm...no.dkp993 said:
Not going down that rabbit hole with you as the ground has be covered multiple times in the PSF. We'll have to agree to disagree.
Why do you ask me to provide examples of stuff I did not claim? I posted an excerpt of an article about how the BLM organization is back peddling on their support for body cams because they do not like the results. I am not sure what that has to do with any posters in here.Alex P Keaton said:
But that is the problem with focusing on anecdotal cases. The masses are being brainwashed to believe these rare events are far more common than they actually are and are creating a more dangerous society as more people start to distrust police and leads to even more people resisting arrest.dkp993 said:
Apologies if I read your comments from 5/16 at 7:40am in a way that you didn’t intend.
My point was that BLM believed that body cams would reinforce their worldview that police are just gunning down blacks because they are racists. But in the majority of cases they have done the opposite and have help exonerate the officer. So maybe cops are not really chasing down black children and shooting them for wearing a hoodie. Wasn't a suggestion about anyone in here, but more about this narrative that is being peddled might be exaggerated.
Cool. Thanks for the reply and explanation. Makes sense.
Sure. Or it’s not as uncommon or rare as you think it is and there are whole portions of society that have already experienced the issues enough to currently be fearful and thus are resisting arrests.
When it comes to unjustified killings it is most certainly uncommon. If you are talking about harassment, it is probably very common.
It all ties together is the point.
I think on a yearly basis you could count it on your fingers. Given the size of this country and the amount of violent crimes and murders which take place, it is not a problem which should consume all our attention. It would be far more beneficial to worry about helping reduce the 10,000 murders each year than only worrying about a few cases.
I understand your point but I think we can walk and chew gum at the same time. I also think it’s far more then just what you can count on your fingers but that’s hard to truly substantiate one way or the other.
First, i think cams(cell phone footage as well) have shown many people that blacks are being treated poorly by the police when many simply didnt believe it was true(some still dont). Thats why you see this movement over the past few years.
As a member of the subset, I can tell you that it is a big deal. I have had guns pointed in my face 6 times in my life. 5 were by the police. Only 1 of the 5 times were the police justified in doing so (even that one time wasn’t really justified, wrong place wrong time kind of thing)
Damn. You must look like trouble.
Why am i picturing a young Mike Milligan #fargo
No man I wasn't a gangster, more like a combination of Trey Styles (boyz n the hood) & Kid (house party)
Please please tell me you rocked the high top fade.
Most definitely!
I never got the Gumby. Low top fade for me but also the cuts in the eye brow like Kris Kross
Not as tall as Kid’s but it was up there. Also rocked the Bobby Brown gumby for a month or so.
backward pants too?I never got the Gumby. Low top fade for me but also the cuts in the eye brow like Kris Kross
That and the Boys II Men dress shirt, tie with matching baseball hat and ripped jeans
This looks so bad. I'll wait to see if there's something we're missing, but it appears there was also an attempted cover-up.
Stuff like that is why I pull over right away when I am stopped. Leading police a high speed chase never seems to work out well.
Same with trying to pass a counterfit $20 bill at a shop. Police get really upset at that one too.
