I find this a compelling argument.
soooooooo what exactly does all this mean for Henry?The Titans have had 5 or more backs in camp every year for as long as I can remember. I still think they could add one.
I still think they need a quality backup but there's a theory going around that they're waiting on Clowney and since he'll eat up a ton of $, they have to hold off on adding a few positions and maybe even skip.
One site had the Titans trying out that XFL back that played for Washington and he'd totally fit in perfectly but I haven't seen a single Titans reporter second that report.
They have several needs still and Edge is the major one. Second is a special return guy rather than just fill in types. This is usually a cheapie. I would certainly say that backup RB is up there. Many believe they sorely need a CB as Ryan was nails when Butler or Adoree were up N down. I agree. The Titans don't seem to though, everything is that they're comfy moving on. So suppose Clowney suddenly signs somewhere else, I'd expect a key free agent RB and some other Edge to be signed ASAP. If Clowney signs with Titans, then the XFL guy or some cheap backup that may be a camp body.
there is no obvious handcuff.soooooooo what exactly does all this mean for Henry?
His job is safe.Deamon said:soooooooo what exactly does all this mean for Henry?
Was there any question?His job is safe.
Has to be the safest RB of the draft. I don't think it's likely he goes back to his old ways of being under used. Barring injury, he seems a lock for a top 10RB with a potential ceiling of top 3 RB. That's what you want from your first round pick.Hard to think of many with a safer floor.
I don't at all disagree.Has to be the safest RB of the draft. I don't think it's likely he goes back to his old ways of being under used. Barring injury, he seems a lock for a top 10RB with a potential ceiling of top 3 RB. That's what you want from your first round pick.
Titans OC Arthur Smith said Derrick Henry's workload for this upcoming season "depends on how games go."
"We'll see how the season evolves for him and if another running back emerges," Smith added. Tennessee's intuitive OC also said it's probably better for the offense "if more guys are touching the ball." It's an odd declaration from Smith after the team rode Henry, last year's rushing champion, to an AFC Championship berth on a league-high 303 carries and 83/446/2 across three postseason starts. Henry has infamously been barricaded from the field on passing downs, totaling 38 catches in his last 34 games, and Smith doesn't seem intent on changing that approach anytime soon. Third-round rookie Darrynton Evans would be the beneficiary in the event Henry's touches are scaled back during his one-year deal.
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SOURCE: Jim Wyatt on Twitter
Jun 3, 2020, 4:18 PM ET
I tried to package him in deals to get guys like Tyreek Hill + a late rookie 1st rounder, but I never was able to work anything out. I think people still don't trust him.noAnyone in a Dynasty deal Henry recently?
You tried to get Tyreek plus some for Henry? If that’s the case, not too surprising you weren’t able to work something out.I tried to package him in deals to get guys like Tyreek Hill + a late rookie 1st rounder, but I never was able to work anything out. I think people still don't trust him.
that was my initial reaction as well. But he stated "package him in". I'm guessing its Henry and late first for Hill...still light though.You tried to get Tyreek plus some for Henry? If that’s the case, not too surprising you weren’t able to work something out.
Yeah, I should have detailed what the "packages" were I guess. Also it is a 16 team league, so the "late 1st" was really an early 2nd in most leagues. Basically the 2nd tier WR prospects from this draft.Rig24 said:that was my initial reaction as well. But he stated "package him in". I'm guessing its Henry and late first for Hill...still light though.SayWhat? said:You tried to get Tyreek plus some for Henry? If that’s the case, not too surprising you weren’t able to work something out.
That checks out better. I have Henry and have looked to move him. I have interest but it is closer to his value prior to last season than the current value. I think you are right, not a lot of trust in his new value.Yeah, I should have detailed what the "packages" were I guess. Also it is a 16 team league, so the "late 1st" was really an early 2nd in most leagues. Basically the 2nd tier WR prospects from this draft.
It was stuff like Henry + (AJ Brown or Terry McLaurin) for Hill + 1st + Ronald Jones.
Long story short, it really seemed like Henry wasn't getting much traction at all on any moves I tried. I had to package high upside young WRs with him to get any interest at all.
And the closest I came to getting a deal done actually had the 1st going the other way (I didn't make this move):
Henry + McLaurin + 1.11 for Hill + Conner
Which, given that you and I are both interested cashing out on the "high" -- probably makes sense.That checks out better. I have Henry and have looked to move him. I have interest but it is closer to his value prior to last season than the current value. I think you are right, not a lot of trust in his new value.
good point, lol.Which, given that you and I are both interested cashing out on the "high" -- probably makes sense.
That's not the totality of what he said and a reminder that we hit this time of year where rotosnips can make you hmmm.Titans OC Arthur Smith said Derrick Henry's workload for this upcoming season "depends on how games go."
"We'll see how the season evolves for him and if another running back emerges," Smith added. Tennessee's intuitive OC also said it's probably better for the offense "if more guys are touching the ball." It's an odd declaration from Smith after the team rode Henry, last year's rushing champion, to an AFC Championship berth on a league-high 303 carries and 83/446/2 across three postseason starts. Henry has infamously been barricaded from the field on passing downs, totaling 38 catches in his last 34 games, and Smith doesn't seem intent on changing that approach anytime soon. Third-round rookie Darrynton Evans would be the beneficiary in the event Henry's touches are scaled back during his one-year deal.
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Darrynton Evans
SOURCE: Jim Wyatt on Twitter
Jun 3, 2020, 4:18 PM ET
https://titaninsider.com/titans-derrick-henry-still-open-to-extension-as-deadline-looms/The Titans are open to signing a new deal with franchise-tagged RB Derrick Henry prior to the July 15 deadline, but "no extension is on the verge of happening," according to Titans Insider Terry McCormick.
As of now, Henry will be playing on the $10.278 million franchise tag after rushing for over 1,500 yards and 16 touchdowns last season. McCormick reports Titans GM Jon Robinson and Cap Specialist Vin Marino continue to discuss long-term possibilities with Henry.
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Titans are not expected to reach a long-term agreement with franchise-tagged RB Derrick Henry by Wednesday's deadline.
Henry signed his $10.3 million tender on April 2. No deal would greatly enhance the odds that Henry is allowed to walk in free agency next spring, as another franchise tag would be getting close to cost prohibitive for a running back. It did happen with Le'Veon Bell in Pittsburgh, though that's when the back ended up sitting out the entire season. Since he has already signed his tender, Henry has major financial incentive to report on time.
SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Jul 14, 2020, 9:01 AM ET
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1283476474255859712The Titans and RB Derrick Henry are working to finalize a deal before Wednesday's deadline, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.
"Deal on way to being done," Schefter tweeted. Crazy how quickly these news items can change, as just six hours ago Schefter reported the two sides were not expected to reach an agreement. Henry has already signed his $10.3 million tender, but this extension likely would give the team some relief in 2020 and keep the NFL's rushing leader in the fold for a few more seasons - depending on guarantees. Henry has consistently expressed his stance that he wanted to return to Nashville.
Seems like this is said for every RB that gets paidThings change fast! I'd be torn as a Titans fan. Seems like a bad investment to pay a 26 year old RB, but Henry has also got to be a fan favorite that they want to keep around.
Jay Glazer just reported it's a done deal. 4 years.
Don't own him, but here is hoping him good health going forward. I don't know the details of the deal yet, but anyone who gives a massive deal to a RB is an idiot.Jay Glazer just reported it's a done deal. 4 years.
4 years, 50M. About half guaranteed.Don't own him, but here is hoping him good health going forward. I don't know the details of the deal yet, but anyone who gives a massive deal to a RB is an idiot.
Derrick Henry is signing a four-year, $50 million contract which includes $25.5 million in guaranteed money, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.
Henry was already set to play the 2020 season on the $10.3 million franchise tag, so this extension can be considered an extra three years worth roughly $40 million with $15 more million in guarantees. It's a smart move for Henry, who would have entered the 2021 season at 27-years-old. This likely locks in Henry for at least two years, and gives the team options in 2022 and 2023. The Titans truly are bringing the band back together, giving Ryan Tannehill $62 million in fully guaranteed money and Henry $25.5 million, after the two played 14 games together last season. Henry is coming off a 15-game regular season that included 303 carries and just 18 receptions, both career highs.
SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Jul 15, 2020, 4:08 PM ET
I’m not sure about his numbers this year, but his dynasty value had been a bit in flux the last couple months over the uncertainty of his contract. Big time stabilizer there in my opinion.Is this contract a small bump, small downgrade, or no effect at all on his numbers this year?