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Ooh, I don't know if his floor was Cousins. I think Cousins was a lot better than people gave him credit for and Diggs's efficiency comes from deep balls, which Cousins was accurate on. Allen, we don't know about intermediate routes and the deep book hasn't been written yet w/r/t accuracy. We know he can bomb, slant, and run, but we don't really have advanced numbers unless subscriptions are in order.
I think that's a fair position to not take the knee jerk one of downgrade. A couple mad bombs at the beginning of the season could change everybody's perception. I think, honestly, the devil is in the details. How effective will Allen be on outside the numbers outs.? Will his mobility click with DIggs and make them a super pairing like a poor man's version of Big Ben and AB? It's staring anew for sure, and uncertainty reigns. I'm personally not sure what I'd prefer.
What's the point of that? They would never get the ball, especially this Henry Round
Stupid auto correct.What's the point of that? They would never get the ball, especially this Henry Round
I wouldn't. I get the Cousins "dislike" but searching for a better replacement would be painful.
Diggs is only occasionally elite.
Would strongly disagree that Allen's passing floor is the same as Cousins. Allen is nowhere near the QB Cousins is, and those deep targets are just as likely to go to John Brown as they are Diggs. Diggs has a smaller portion of a smaller pie in Buffalo.
I wont miss the helmet tosses.
Exactly my thoughts.
They had Sammy Watkins and Robert Woods. Frankly, I've been more impressed with Woods than Diggs in the years since he left Buffalo.
He is elite in some metrics like yards per route run. He usually misses a game or two with an injury or playing injured as a decoy. Thats part of why the yards aren't what you would like to see.
I think Woods is. He wins on every level, versus both man and zone on a consistent basis. He's maybe not as exciting, but I do think he's a better overall WR than Diggs.
Seems an overpay for sure, but Diggs is better than what Allen has had in his career so far.
The Bills threw the ball 513 times last season. So 47 more times than the Vikings did last year.
I think Allen is a very good football player. I don’t not think he’s a very good QB. He has room to grow but I’m not sure if his accuracy can improve much. I see this as a downgrade for Diggs (and I own him in 2 leagues). I also think the Bills overpaid to get him - and now they’ll need to pay him like a superstar.
Hey they must have a plan for Diggs. Maybe he can help Allen. He is good at contested catches. Has good hands.Writing off Allen is a mistake. He came from a small school and wasn’t NFL ready. All scouting reports on him were consistent with this.
Some bone head coaching decisions and bad luck left him starting in his first year when the plan was to sit. He outperformed what was expected for a QB who everyone thought was not NFL ready.
Year 2 (should have been year 1) he again outperformed expectations.
How does he compare to a couple elite young guys....not well...but who does?
He is smart, physically gifted, a gamer, improved and outperformed expectations. What about that combination indicates a lack of further progression?
As awesome as Lamar Jackson was last year, he wasn't great at getting the ball to his receivers. If Diggs was in Marquise Brown's shoes, I got him throwing a fit at some point.
Well my point was the grass isn't always greener. Allen might improve, and he has more potential than Cousins. But the odds of him ever developing into a passer as good as Kirk, they're more of a maybe than guarantee.
Jackson definitely took a step up last season but that also doesn't mean Allen will. Also the offense Baltimore set up for Jackson helped hide some of his weaknesses and caused the defense to leave some guys open. Even with that said, Jackson was more effective passing to his TEs and RBs than to his WRs from what I observed (I'll admit stats may not back that up so I'll defer to anyone that can counter my observation).Dr. Dan said:
It's possible, but that's not necessarily a winning approach. I'm not advocating panic selling, and to be honest I'll likely hold, but I'd move him if some one seemed to like the landing spot.
Definitely a sell if someone is buying. If he couldn't exist with Cousins, it'll be fun watching him block for Allen and then getting overthrown by 10 yards. This has disaster written all over it.
To take the other side (and i'm in the camp where this seems like a downgrade), didn't watch a ton of Bills games last years but John Brown had a pretty good season...
