Jayrod
Footballguy
No, no. That can't be right. No one can beat her, she is sooooooo talented. It's all skill, size and strength doesn't matter.
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kutta
Footballguy
This is just incorrect. It is MUCH worse taking a shot with MMA gloves than it is with boxing gloves. I've taken hits from both, and trust me, boxing gloves are much easier to take. MMA gloves are about 4 oz and boxing gloves are 16 oz. that's a really big differences when you are getting punched in the face.
chet
Footballguy
Yeah, you could have parlayed your superior Lebron skill with your superior FM skill to make you the ultimate fighting machine. Even though you're an FGB and 6'2 240lb, you're the ultimate fighting machine.
Delusional x 1000+
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
I have a pretty decent record against women.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Hov34
Eephus's Great Great Great Love Child
That would be my exact line to RR: "Are you waiting to receive my limp penis?"
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
That's crazy talk. She was a bronze medalist, so at least 2 people were considered better than her. Floyd's one of the greatest boxers of all time. Her mma career isn't at its end yet. Floyd is undefeated with only a few fights left in him.We aren't talking about "someone with BJJ" here. We're talking about an Olympic medalist grappler. Rousey is as good a judoka as Floyd is a boxer -- in Rousey's world, she owns him. And vice versa, of course.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I agree if Floyd is on the ground he is in trouble. I think the likelihood of him going to the ground is somewhere in the ballpark of zero.
Floyd has some of the fastest hands on Earth. He's a defensive fighter and although people in here make fun of his power, there's a reason nobody just eats all his shots and goes all out to beat him (even when down 9 rounds to 2 in the 12th). He can hit hard, I'd guarantee MUCH MUCH harder than any 135 pound woman RR has ever faced.
This isn't a fat washed up James Toney we're talking about, this is speed and precision like most can't comprehend. Furthermore, I think a simple well-placed defensive counterpunch (and an argument that he doesn't land any is laughable) either stuns or more likely knocks RR out 30 seconds to 1 minute into the first.
Floyd has some of the fastest hands on Earth. He's a defensive fighter and although people in here make fun of his power, there's a reason nobody just eats all his shots and goes all out to beat him (even when down 9 rounds to 2 in the 12th). He can hit hard, I'd guarantee MUCH MUCH harder than any 135 pound woman RR has ever faced.
This isn't a fat washed up James Toney we're talking about, this is speed and precision like most can't comprehend. Furthermore, I think a simple well-placed defensive counterpunch (and an argument that he doesn't land any is laughable) either stuns or more likely knocks RR out 30 seconds to 1 minute into the first.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Crazy talk? Rousey medaled at 21 -- had she continued on competing in judo I'm guessing she had a decent shot at gold in 2012 or 2016. She's currently in her athletic prime at 28. Floyd is great, no doubt, but he's 38 -- not in his prime any more.That's crazy talk. She was a bronze medalist, so at least 2 people were considered better than her. Floyd's one of the greatest boxers of all time. Her mma career isn't at its end yet. Floyd is undefeated with only a few fights left in him.
Lot of people discounting just how good you have to be at something to be an Olympian.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Or 48-0 in fights against other men.Crazy talk? Rousey medaled at 21 -- had she continued on competing in judo I'm guessing she had a decent shot at gold in 2012 or 2016. She's currently in her athletic prime at 28. Floyd is great, no doubt, but he's 38 -- not in his prime any more.Lot of people discounting just how good you have to be at something to be an Olympian.That's crazy talk. She was a bronze medalist, so at least 2 people were considered better than her. Floyd's one of the greatest boxers of all time. Her mma career isn't at its end yet. Floyd is undefeated with only a few fights left in him.
Link.Crazy talk? Rousey medaled at 21 -- had she continued on competing in judo I'm guessing she had a decent shot at gold in 2012 or 2016. She's currently in her athletic prime at 28. Floyd is great, no doubt, but he's 38 -- not in his prime any more.That's crazy talk.She was a bronze medalist, so at least 2 people were considered better than her. Floyd's one of the greatest boxers of all time. Her mma career isn't at its end yet. Floyd is undefeated with only a few fights left in him.
Lot of people discounting just how good you have to be at something to be an Olympian.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
i just spit out my coffee
Jayrod
Footballguy
Never said I could take RR. Some of you guys seem awfully offended at the idea of a FBG that is actually an athlete.Are you actually some schlub living in your moms basement who makes $20k a year, because that is more likely than you being super rich, right?
Delusional x1000, huh.
heckmanm
Footballguy
Jayrod
Footballguy
The idea that you can hit an open jumpshot playing in some pickup game makes you think you can shot better than LeBron James, who has to face real NBA talent, is
Are you actually some schlub living in your moms basement who makes $20k a year, because that is more likely than you being super rich, right?
Delusional x1000, huh.
no matter how good you may actually be. The fact that you defend the statement is..... Oh yeah, now that LeBron has worked on his game, he may finally have a better jump shot than you....
heckmanm
Footballguy
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
For the Mayweather fans: what would happen if Floyd fought a top level LW or FW in MMA?
top dog
Footballguy
Just asked my wife's uncle this question. He has trained, taught and competed in BJJ and MMA for years. He's actually spared with Joyce Gracie before and met some of the family.
My text to him : "Who wins in a fight between Ronda Rousey and Floyd Mayweather? Does he knock her out with his fast hands and man power or would she be able to get through his hands to be able to take him down and snap his arm? Saw this being debated online.."
His response: "Mayweather kils her."
I'm going to go with my initial thought that she destroys me, but I'm going to take his word that FM would not get beat by her.
My text to him : "Who wins in a fight between Ronda Rousey and Floyd Mayweather? Does he knock her out with his fast hands and man power or would she be able to get through his hands to be able to take him down and snap his arm? Saw this being debated online.."
His response: "Mayweather kils her."
I'm going to go with my initial thought that she destroys me, but I'm going to take his word that FM would not get beat by her.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
What about Mayweather vs a top shelf kick boxer in a kick boxing match?
chet
Footballguy
Judo is only one skill that she uses. It's mostly throws and some ground work. I bet she'd kill the silver and gold medallists in MMA. I still think she'd beat FM in MMA.That's crazy talk.She was a bronze medalist, so at least 2 people were considered better than her. Floyd's one of the greatest boxers of all time. Her mma career isn't at its end yet. Floyd is undefeated with only a few fights left in him.
chet
Footballguy
48-0 in boxing matches. Not really fights even though they refer to them as fights on TV.Or 48-0 in fights against other men.Crazy talk? Rousey medaled at 21 -- had she continued on competing in judo I'm guessing she had a decent shot at gold in 2012 or 2016. She's currently in her athletic prime at 28. Floyd is great, no doubt, but he's 38 -- not in his prime any more.Lot of people discounting just how good you have to be at something to be an Olympian.That's crazy talk.She was a bronze medalist, so at least 2 people were considered better than her. Floyd's one of the greatest boxers of all time. Her mma career isn't at its end yet. Floyd is undefeated with only a few fights left in him.
Short Corner
Footballguy
I'd last longer with Mayweather.
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
Too bad kickboxing never caught on. In any case, a top shelf kickboxer wins easily IMO.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
How about the idea that I never have played organized ball am a better free throw shooter than Shaq?The idea that you can hit an open jumpshot playing in some pickup game makes you think you can shot better than LeBron James, who has to face real NBA talent, is
Are you actually some schlub living in your moms basement who makes $20k a year, because that is more likely than you being super rich, right?
Delusional x1000, huh.
Oh yeah, now that LeBron has worked on his game, he may finally have a better jump shot than you....
BassNBrew
Footballguy
NTTAWWT, how so?
In the time it takes Rousey to get you to the ground, Mayweather would have peppered your pumpkin a dozen times.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
phatdawg
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
That's a different argument. The post I replied to said she was as good at judo as Floyd is at boxing.Judo is only one skill that she uses. It's mostly throws and some ground work. I bet she'd kill the silver and gold medallists in MMA. I still think she'd beat FM in MMA.That's crazy talk.She was a bronze medalist, so at least 2 people were considered better than her. Floyd's one of the greatest boxers of all time. Her mma career isn't at its end yet. Floyd is undefeated with only a few fights left in him.
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Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Agree 100% -- top athletes in their own sport are going to beat top athletes from other sports. I think most would agree with this; the disagreement is likely over whether any woman is truly an elite athlete as compared to men. The answer to that is certainly a big "no" for most -- but for some I personally think it's a legit question.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Floyd only took a bronzre home when he fought in the Olympics.That's a different argument. The post I replied to said she was as good at judo as Floyd is at boxing.Judo is only one skill that she uses. It's mostly throws and some ground work. I bet she'd kill the silver and gold medallists in MMA. I still think she'd beat FM in MMA.That's crazy talk.She was a bronze medalist, so at least 2 people were considered better than her. Floyd's one of the greatest boxers of all time. Her mma career isn't at its end yet. Floyd is undefeated with only a few fights left in him.
Mile High
Footballguy
Seriously? I bet there are lots of guys who never played in the NBA who can shoot better then LeBronThe idea that you can hit an open jumpshot playing in some pickup game makes you think you can shot better than LeBron James, who has to face real NBA talent, is
Are you actually some schlub living in your moms basement who makes $20k a year, because that is more likely than you being super rich, right?
Delusional x1000, huh.
Oh yeah, now that LeBron has worked on his game, he may finally have a better jump shot than you....
moleculo
Footballguy
Its not too late. I would encourage you to walk into a local BJJ or MMA school and give it a shot. I took it up at the ripe age of 35, and we have guys in our gym starting at 40.
I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that your elite athleticism won't do you a whole lot of good. Wrestling/MMA requires a completely different type of athleticism. I'm a good wrestler, and a decent BJJer. However, I can't jump very high, I'm not at all fast, I cannot hit a baseball (probably even if it were on a tee), my jump shot is terrible, I shoot free-throws like Shaq. I have almost zero hand-eye coordination. None of this matters on the mat.
kentric
Footballguy
We're up to Ronda taking on all three of them at once - blindfolded, with one arm tied behind her back. Luckily she has laser-beams shooting out her ### to take them down.
quickhands
Footballguy
I've been training mma for the last 3 years. I'm 48 years old.
This is just my view on things. The sensei's wife also trains. She about 35 and approximately 145. She is very good.
Her husband is a cop that trains other cops. She has judo and Krav Maga training. She has about 6 years of experience.
This is just for a measuring stick. Under no circumstances am I comparing the two. But I will say she is strong.
That said she has real problems with guys over 180 ish pounds. The strength weight difference just becomes something that she just can't overcome.
The Gracies have a ratio for people over 45. Every 10 years is a belt rank and every 10 pounds is a belt rank. I think the 10 pounds advantage would be for her.
So if you have 50 pounds on her you are the equivalent of a black belt to her.
She can only submit you if you give her something. Give her your arm. You will get triangled. If you know what she's trying for you can counter it.
The weight thing is huge. If you do end up on the mat and you get on top your weight can limit her breathing.
This is just my view on things. The sensei's wife also trains. She about 35 and approximately 145. She is very good.
Her husband is a cop that trains other cops. She has judo and Krav Maga training. She has about 6 years of experience.
This is just for a measuring stick. Under no circumstances am I comparing the two. But I will say she is strong.
That said she has real problems with guys over 180 ish pounds. The strength weight difference just becomes something that she just can't overcome.
The Gracies have a ratio for people over 45. Every 10 years is a belt rank and every 10 pounds is a belt rank. I think the 10 pounds advantage would be for her.
So if you have 50 pounds on her you are the equivalent of a black belt to her.
She can only submit you if you give her something. Give her your arm. You will get triangled. If you know what she's trying for you can counter it.
The weight thing is huge. If you do end up on the mat and you get on top your weight can limit her breathing.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Not too many who are capable of shooting better when in a real NBA game being defended by the world's best defenders. There are guys who can hit 50 plus percent from the college three-point line, but can they get open and get the shot off in a real game playing against pro-caliber defenders? No way. They would be lucky to hit 20 percent.Seriously? I bet there are lots of guys who never played in the NBA who can shoot better then LeBronThe idea that you can hit an open jumpshot playing in some pickup game makes you think you can shot better than LeBron James, who has to face real NBA talent, is
Are you actually some schlub living in your moms basement who makes $20k a year, because that is more likely than you being super rich, right?
Delusional x1000, huh.
Oh yeah, now that LeBron has worked on his game, he may finally have a better jump shot than you....
Mile High
Footballguy
I don't think anyone said anything about shooting in a NBA game. Just they could shoot better then LeBronNot too many who are capable of shooting better when in a real NBA game being defended by the world's best defenders. There are guys who can hit 50 plus percent from the college three-point line, but can they get open and get the shot off in a real game playing against pro-caliber defenders? No way. They would be lucky to hit 20 percent.Seriously? I bet there are lots of guys who never played in the NBA who can shoot better then LeBronThe idea that you can hit an open jumpshot playing in some pickup game makes you think you can shot better than LeBron James, who has to face real NBA talent, is
Are you actually some schlub living in your moms basement who makes $20k a year, because that is more likely than you being super rich, right?
Delusional x1000, huh.
Oh yeah, now that LeBron has worked on his game, he may finally have a better jump shot than you....
lardonastick
Footballguy
What, in HORSE?I don't think anyone said anything about shooting in a NBA game. Just they could shoot better then LeBronNot too many who are capable of shooting better when in a real NBA game being defended by the world's best defenders. There are guys who can hit 50 plus percent from the college three-point line, but can they get open and get the shot off in a real game playing against pro-caliber defenders? No way. They would be lucky to hit 20 percent.Seriously? I bet there are lots of guys who never played in the NBA who can shoot better then LeBronThe idea that you can hit an open jumpshot playing in some pickup game makes you think you can shot better than LeBron James, who has to face real NBA talent, is
Are you actually some schlub living in your moms basement who makes $20k a year, because that is more likely than you being super rich, right?
Delusional x1000, huh.
Oh yeah, now that LeBron has worked on his game, he may finally have a better jump shot than you....
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
How would they know? Because he shoots X percent in an NBA game? Odds are he hits shots at a much higher rate when throwing them up in practice.I don't think anyone said anything about shooting in a NBA game. Just they could shoot better then LeBronNot too many who are capable of shooting better when in a real NBA game being defended by the world's best defenders. There are guys who can hit 50 plus percent from the college three-point line, but can they get open and get the shot off in a real game playing against pro-caliber defenders? No way. They would be lucky to hit 20 percent.Seriously? I bet there are lots of guys who never played in the NBA who can shoot better then LeBronThe idea that you can hit an open jumpshot playing in some pickup game makes you think you can shot better than LeBron James, who has to face real NBA talent, is
Are you actually some schlub living in your moms basement who makes $20k a year, because that is more likely than you being super rich, right?
Delusional x1000, huh.
Oh yeah, now that LeBron has worked on his game, he may finally have a better jump shot than you....
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
In Jayrod's fantasy world.What, in HORSE?I don't think anyone said anything about shooting in a NBA game. Just they could shoot better then LeBronNot too many who are capable of shooting better when in a real NBA game being defended by the world's best defenders. There are guys who can hit 50 plus percent from the college three-point line, but can they get open and get the shot off in a real game playing against pro-caliber defenders? No way. They would be lucky to hit 20 percent.Seriously? I bet there are lots of guys who never played in the NBA who can shoot better then LeBronThe idea that you can hit an open jumpshot playing in some pickup game makes you think you can shot better than LeBron James, who has to face real NBA talent, is
Are you actually some schlub living in your moms basement who makes $20k a year, because that is more likely than you being super rich, right?
Delusional x1000, huh.
Oh yeah, now that LeBron has worked on his game, he may finally have a better jump shot than you....
James Daulton
Footballguy
Mile High
Footballguy
Horse if you like. Even in pickup basketball games at the park or rec center there are plenty of guys who are better shooters then LeBron. Doesn't make them NBA players just better shooters.What, in HORSE?I don't think anyone said anything about shooting in a NBA game. Just they could shoot better then LeBronNot too many who are capable of shooting better when in a real NBA game being defended by the world's best defenders. There are guys who can hit 50 plus percent from the college three-point line, but can they get open and get the shot off in a real game playing against pro-caliber defenders? No way. They would be lucky to hit 20 percent.Seriously? I bet there are lots of guys who never played in the NBA who can shoot better then LeBronThe idea that you can hit an open jumpshot playing in some pickup game makes you think you can shot better than LeBron James, who has to face real NBA talent, is
Are you actually some schlub living in your moms basement who makes $20k a year, because that is more likely than you being super rich, right?
Delusional x1000, huh.
Oh yeah, now that LeBron has worked on his game, he may finally have a better jump shot than you....
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
We need a new poll
What is more likely:
a) Rousey beats FM in a MMA rules match
B0 Jayrod is a better shooter than LeBron in an NBA game setting
As unlikely as choice A is, I think I would still choose it over choice B
What is more likely:
a) Rousey beats FM in a MMA rules match
B0 Jayrod is a better shooter than LeBron in an NBA game setting
As unlikely as choice A is, I think I would still choose it over choice B
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Brian Scalabrine is a better shooter than those guys.
Weekend warrior former division 3 basketball player types do not shoot better than Lebron. That's ludicrous. People severely underestimate how good the worst nba players actually are, let alone the top player in the world.
Weekend warrior former division 3 basketball player types do not shoot better than Lebron. That's ludicrous. People severely underestimate how good the worst nba players actually are, let alone the top player in the world.
