Doubledown1313 33 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Owner Stephen Ross said the decision will be made by Monday. Was reported on Football Night in America. Edited October 5, 2015 by Doubledown1313 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Insein 10,494 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Dude was serious? that's awesome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eoMMan 5,663 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Guy deserves it, imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobbyLayne 10,873 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Hoping Bill Ford Jr is taking notes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rickyg 832 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 He's a horrifically bad head coach. The players don't like him. The fans don't like him. And he doesn't win. So happy to see him go if he does. He should take lazor with him. Then The 2 of them can coach their madden teams on Xbox for the rest of the season and find ingenious ways to misuse their talent and lose games without harming an entire football organization. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Walking Boot 8,295 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Surprised they let him board the plane home. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jurb26 926 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Leave him across the pond. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Madden Curse 42 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Surprised they let him board the plane home.Agreed, it would be a better story if Philbin simply disappeared without comment, then was eventually spotted busking in the London Tube to get enough change to buy a ticket home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Walking Boot 8,295 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 "winners fly, Joe. For all we care you can walk back." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny Powers 278 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Bout time..Philbin id worthless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lod01 905 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Hoping Bill Ford Jr is taking notesBetter wake him up out of his coma and let him know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McGarnicle 11,112 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 He's a terrible coach, but who are you hiring in week 5 who's going to magically turn it around? This kind of thing, even a rumor of a coach getting canned in season, is the mark of a joke franchise. It's less embarrassing to just endorse the guy, quietly go 3-13, and clean house after the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoBirds 9,829 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 At this point and it in the media you almost have to don't you if they have a coordinator with any potential? Players know he is toast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shadyridr 14,320 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Worst coach in the league. Called this when i saw him on hard knocks 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flapgreen 5,911 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 He's a terrible coach, but who are you hiring in week 5 who's going to magically turn it around? This kind of thing, even a rumor of a coach getting canned in season, is the mark of a joke franchise. It's less embarrassing to just endorse the guy, quietly go 3-13, and clean house after the season.Exactly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bojang0301 2,246 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Really hope they go outside of the coordinators for this. Faust posted a 9 sec 3 and out where the Jets ran the same defense each play and Miami didn't stop to adjust to a rushing DB. Lazor seems just bad and the DL should be one of the most talented in the league and is getting torched. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flapgreen 5,911 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 At this point and it in the media you almost have to don't you if they have a coordinator with any potential? Players know he is toast.No Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoBirds 9,829 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Worst coach in the league. Called this when i saw him on hard knocksHaha, this is what comes to mind too. I think it was when Chad Johnson was in trouble and him meeting w/Reggie Bush and his team leaders it seemed like such a joke and couldn't believe this guy was aNFL coach/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoBirds 9,829 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Good thing they let Bowles get away when he was interim coach. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cr8f 84 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Owner Stephen Ross said the decision will be made by Monday. Was reported on Football Night in America.From Florio? If so I'd say it's just a guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit Revival 11 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Hoping Bill Ford Jr is taking notes1000x this. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Retukes 326 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 His son died from alcohol-related drowning a week before he was hired as coach. I can't imagine being able to focus on running a football team under those circumstances. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Madden Curse 42 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 For the past few seasons I have wondered how his son's death in 2012 factored into this situation, and I have mixed feelings even bringing that up. Was he a better coach before that and has he been distracted since then? Has MIA been extra (and perhaps unreasonably) patient with him as a result? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zftcg 3,688 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 He's a terrible coach, but who are you hiring in week 5 who's going to magically turn it around?This kind of thing, even a rumor of a coach getting canned in season, is the mark of a joke franchise. It's less embarrassing to just endorse the guy, quietly go 3-13, and clean house after the season.Has a team ever fired its coach mid-season and turned things around? I know it's happened in baseball ('78 Yankees, for one) but I can't recall a football team pulling it off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChuckLiddell 622 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Screw it...the Bears won today. Phins have a clear shot at the number one overall pick. Let them finish out the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dickey moe 3,886 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Worst coach in the league. Called this when i saw him on hard knocksThought the same thing. He's a milquetoast who's never had the players on his side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bicycle_seat_sniffer 5,109 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Hoping Bill Ford Jr is taking notes1000x this.Careful. Bill jr might hire him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Retukes 326 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 He's a terrible coach, but who are you hiring in week 5 who's going to magically turn it around?This kind of thing, even a rumor of a coach getting canned in season, is the mark of a joke franchise. It's less embarrassing to just endorse the guy, quietly go 3-13, and clean house after the season.Has a team ever fired its coach mid-season and turned things around? I know it's happened in baseball ('78 Yankees, for one) but I can't recall a football team pulling it off.Art Shell with the Raiders (started 1-3, went 7-5 with Shell).Bruce Coslett with the Bengals (started 1-6 with David Shula, then went 7-2 with Coslett). Coslett turned out to be almost as bad a Shula in the long run, though.Don Coryell took over the Chargers when they were 1-3 and had several good years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zftcg 3,688 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 He's a terrible coach, but who are you hiring in week 5 who's going to magically turn it around?This kind of thing, even a rumor of a coach getting canned in season, is the mark of a joke franchise. It's less embarrassing to just endorse the guy, quietly go 3-13, and clean house after the season.Has a team ever fired its coach mid-season and turned things around? I know it's happened in baseball ('78 Yankees, for one) but I can't recall a football team pulling it off.Art Shell with the Raiders (started 1-3, went 7-5 with Shell).Bruce Coslett with the Bengals (started 1-6 with David Shula, then went 7-2 with Coslett). Coslett turned out to be almost as bad a Shula in the long run, though.Don Coryell took over the Chargers when they were 1-3 and had several good years.So the best case scenario is you go 8-8? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quasimoto 92 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 He's a terrible coach, but who are you hiring in week 5 who's going to magically turn it around?This kind of thing, even a rumor of a coach getting canned in season, is the mark of a joke franchise. It's less embarrassing to just endorse the guy, quietly go 3-13, and clean house after the season.Has a team ever fired its coach mid-season and turned things around? I know it's happened in baseball ('78 Yankees, for one) but I can't recall a football team pulling it off.Art Shell with the Raiders (started 1-3, went 7-5 with Shell).Bruce Coslett with the Bengals (started 1-6 with David Shula, then went 7-2 with Coslett). Coslett turned out to be almost as bad a Shula in the long run, though.Don Coryell took over the Chargers when they were 1-3 and had several good years.So the best case scenario is you go 8-8?No, the best case scenario is that the new HC gives Lamar Miller 20 carries per game.. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon 5,317 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 He's a terrible coach, but who are you hiring in week 5 who's going to magically turn it around?This kind of thing, even a rumor of a coach getting canned in season, is the mark of a joke franchise. It's less embarrassing to just endorse the guy, quietly go 3-13, and clean house after the season.Has a team ever fired its coach mid-season and turned things around? I know it's happened in baseball ('78 Yankees, for one) but I can't recall a football team pulling it off.Art Shell with the Raiders (started 1-3, went 7-5 with Shell).Bruce Coslett with the Bengals (started 1-6 with David Shula, then went 7-2 with Coslett). Coslett turned out to be almost as bad a Shula in the long run, though.Don Coryell took over the Chargers when they were 1-3 and had several good years.So the best case scenario is you go 8-8?yeah, likely. 8-8 would be lucky at this point, but the point would be momentum for next year. Meaning if they ride it out and fire him end of season, the new coach has to start from scratch. But if there's no candidates for next year, maybe just ride it out. You risk losing players though, a bad culture, etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RBM 4,899 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Who on the staff would take over? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cr8f 84 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 He'll be better off. I wouldn't want the HC job down there. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cr8f 84 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 For the past few seasons I have wondered how his son's death in 2012 factored into this situation, and I have mixed feelings even bringing that up. Was he a better coach before that and has he been distracted since then? Has MIA been extra (and perhaps unreasonably) patient with him as a result?I thought that about the Packers loss that year after going 15-1. Small community, terrible loss, but don't know how that would affect him so far away. It may have made things easier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Todem 4,659 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 He's a terrible coach, but who are you hiring in week 5 who's going to magically turn it around?This kind of thing, even a rumor of a coach getting canned in season, is the mark of a joke franchise. It's less embarrassing to just endorse the guy, quietly go 3-13, and clean house after the season.Has a team ever fired its coach mid-season and turned things around? I know it's happened in baseball ('78 Yankees, for one) but I can't recall a football team pulling it off.2003 Marlins too. I expect no turnaround, but enough is enough. When your clients/customers (fans) who contribute a decent amount revenue demand it.......you act.At least now the players can look themselves in the mirror and we can see what they are made of now. Because they stink too. Let's not sugar coat that either.But this coaching staff has been nothing short of a complete and utter failure on every level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 47,463 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Ross' biggest challenge is figuring out who would be interim HC. Coyle & Lazor have no more credibility than Lazor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChuckLiddell 622 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Heard speculation of Dan Campbell, the TEs coach. No link, dont even recall where I heard it. I think whoever it was was going down the list, and he was in their opinion the best of a horrid field of options. I do recall feeling like he was pretty sharp on Hard Knocks, and being a former player (although a very non descript one) may allow him to relate better than Philbin who clearly has trouble relating to the players.Sounds like Coyle has to go, and making Lazor the HC would be ridiculous given the lack of offensive production. Best may be to leave Philbin in place for the rest of the year and fire both coordinators. Maybe Campbell gets a shot at OC?ETA - This was just in Omar Kelly (Sun Sentinal)'s twitter feed regarding Campbell...Omar Kelly @OmarKelly 26m26 minutes agoOmar Kelly Retweeted KoBiE_A_Promising coach, but not sure he is ready to be a head coach, or would have respect of the entire locker room. He also mentioned Darren Rizzi who I believe is the ST coach as a potential HC candidate.Omar Kelly added, Edited October 5, 2015 by ChuckLiddell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Smiley 231 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Bill Barnwell's got a piece up talking about how Philbin should not be fired.Philbin might not be the kind of man who makes a good head coach, but he's been handed some pretty lousy 'groceries'.I've been pulling for Philbin because he's not your typical, fire breathing head coach, but he definitely seems to have trouble getting his guys into the right headspace. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Englishteacher 22 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 He'll be better off. I wouldn't want the HC job down there.FWIW, my childhood baseball friend, Ray Farmer, GM of the Browns, interviewed with the Dolphins and turned that job down for, gulp, Clevland.I hear that female math/cap wizard ? Carries a lot of power. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zftcg 3,688 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 He's a terrible coach, but who are you hiring in week 5 who's going to magically turn it around?This kind of thing, even a rumor of a coach getting canned in season, is the mark of a joke franchise. It's less embarrassing to just endorse the guy, quietly go 3-13, and clean house after the season.Has a team ever fired its coach mid-season and turned things around? I know it's happened in baseball ('78 Yankees, for one) but I can't recall a football team pulling it off.2003 Marlins too. I expect no turnaround, but enough is enough. When your clients/customers (fans) who contribute a decent amount revenue demand it.......you act.At least now the players can look themselves in the mirror and we can see what they are made of now. Because they stink too. Let's not sugar coat that either.But this coaching staff has been nothing short of a complete and utter failure on every level.I agree. When you fire a coach midseason, you're mostly just mollifying the fans and (maybe) sending a message to the players that quitting won't be tolerated. But you're basically in a crap situation, and nothing that you do is going to salvage it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bakes 259 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Bill Barnwell's got a piece up talking about how Philbin should not be fired.Philbin might not be the kind of man who makes a good head coach, but he's been handed some pretty lousy 'groceries'.I've been pulling for Philbin because he's not your typical, fire breathing head coach, but he definitely seems to have trouble getting his guys into the right headspace.Tannehill? Miller? Landry? Suh?He has the groceries, he's just never figured out how to open a refrigerator or use a can opener. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Englishteacher 22 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Say what you will, but if you value PFF Miller and Tannenhill have graded out high prior to this season. Tannenhill for several seasons and Miller very high last season.Offensive line is a joke. They have two studs, Pouncey and Albert, who are always hurt. The Right Tackle, James had a pretty decent, promising rookie season even though many thought he was a reach/over drafted because they needed line help. The guards seem like turnstiles effectively.I'm wondering with the big Suh signing why they didn't address the line more. A couple low-mid-level vet prospects would have been appropriate. Guys like Mathis and Long come to mind at least as backups, swing guys, or starters come to mind.In Tannenhill's defense, he's not had a lot to throw to, the line has been terrible, they don't support him with a run game, and the QB is always misjudged both good and bad for the W's and L's. Truth be told, he's more or less graded out as a Top 10-12 QB since he got his feet wet.Defensively, they have enough marque guys that you would think they could scheme well enough around their deficiencies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Englishteacher 22 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Bill Barnwell's got a piece up talking about how Philbin should not be fired.Philbin might not be the kind of man who makes a good head coach, but he's been handed some pretty lousy 'groceries'.I've been pulling for Philbin because he's not your typical, fire breathing head coach, but he definitely seems to have trouble getting his guys into the right headspace. Tannehill? Miller? Landry? Suh?He has the groceries, he's just never figured out how to open a refrigerator or use a can opener.I kinda like the guy in interviews but just feel he's a poor coach. Seems lost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Englishteacher 22 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I was excited about Lazor bringing some Philly/Kelly style concepts.The offense versus the Jets early was as poor as you'll see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Englishteacher 22 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Signed,Tannenhill and Miller dynasty owner Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gatorman 82 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Philbin is a bad coach, but a good man. So was sporano. We need a coach who has a clue about doing something to win a ballgame, not playing not to lose one. That always leads to this situation. It did with Wanny and all the rest of the trash we have had since shula left (and at least Shula had a resume when he decided to keep that terrible DC Ollivadotti. Philbin din't want to fire our last OC and now is standing behind Croyle).They do not adapt, they do not invent, they do not achieve. At least Sporano brought the wildcat to the NFL to beat New England... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon 5,317 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Philbin to be fired Monday per sources. Tight End coach to take over?! Guess this is good for Miller owners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Summer 9,489 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Sounds like they're considering firing one of the coordinators but keeping Philbin. Not sure how that's going to make a difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattFancy 2,197 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Joe Philbin - OT - DolphinsESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Dolphins are preparing to fire coach Joe Philbin on Monday.Schefter admits owner Stephen Ross could change his mind, but as of Sunday night the decision had been made. Schefter reports Dolphins TE coach Dan Campbell is the leading candidate to replace Philbin on an interim basis if the coach is fired. DC Kevin Coyle will likely be heading out the door as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Smiley 231 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Bill Barnwell's got a piece up talking about how Philbin should not be fired.Philbin might not be the kind of man who makes a good head coach, but he's been handed some pretty lousy 'groceries'.I've been pulling for Philbin because he's not your typical, fire breathing head coach, but he definitely seems to have trouble getting his guys into the right headspace.Tannehill? Miller? Landry? Suh?He has the groceries, he's just never figured out how to open a refrigerator or use a can opener.Well, that's Barnwell's point. Giving big bucks to Suh instead of filling the myriad of holes throughout the team. Those splashy signings as fix-alls are very familiar as the marks of a perennially bad franchise.Edit: also, I think Philbin has done a good job bringing Tannehill along. He was no sure thing. Edited October 5, 2015 by Old Smiley Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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