JoeJoe88 436 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 26 minutes ago, hispeedthinmint said: Dynasty PPR Team A gives: David Johnson Team B Gives: DJ Moore Jesus Christ. Why can’t I ever get these kind of deals. Moore by a hundred miles. 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Louden 0 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Gave: Julio Jones, Eifert, Carr Got: Dj Moore, Miles Sanders, Devin Singletary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 15,640 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 20 hours ago, hispeedthinmint said: Which side?! LOL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Birdie048 314 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Playoffs are starting ... 12 Team PPR 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/2Flex I gave up TY Hilton, Robert Woods and 2020 late 1st (~ 1.9-1.11 range) I got Davane Adams, 2020 3rd (late) The uncertainty of both my WR's was part of my concern, but we have been discussing this deal for a few weeks... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tombonneau 985 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Birdie048 said: Playoffs are starting ... 12 Team PPR 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/2Flex I gave up TY Hilton, Robert Woods and 2020 late 1st (~ 1.9-1.11 range) I got Davane Adams, 2020 3rd (late) The uncertainty of both my WR's was part of my concern, but we have been discussing this deal for a few weeks... Steep price for Adams. I'll take Hilton, Woods and the first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Birdie048 314 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, tombonneau said: Steep price for Adams. I'll take Hilton, Woods and the first. Agreed. My WR group had too much uncertainty this week.... Lockett is still questionable to play and with Sanu is now out "several weeks", Hilton has not been cleared to play tonight.... Woods will not be back at LAR facility until Monday at the earliest.... and the trade deadline is 5 pm today! It leaves my WR Core: Lockett, Adams, Sanu, Dem Thomas, T Gabriel and A Erickson but since it's only start 2 WR... I needed now.. I have quality RB &TE for flex options. I would have had to start Dem Thomas & Taylor Gabriel in the playoffs... not a promising forecast! ETA: Trade Analyzer Data --> I gave 3027 value, I got 2955 value. I can live with that! Edited November 21, 2019 by Birdie048 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FreeBaGeL 8,809 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I would take Adams there myself, but it seems fair. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Interseptopus 5,722 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) So I've eluded to this trade in a few threads and largely avoided posting it because the commish frequents this forum and I didnt want it to turn into a problem on the forum. However I really want the opinions of this group. After making this trade the commish said we either had to pay 2020 dues (not anywhere in the rules) or be immediately kicked out and trade vetoed. He said I was "trading away 3 studs and receiving two 2nds and a bunch of castaways" I had every intention of coming back in 2020, however I'm not a fan of making up rules on the fly because an inner circle of the commish and 1st and 2nd place had an issue with the trade. My trade partner and I traded back, and needless to say decided to not come back. Got: Lockett, Daniel Jones, Westbrook, Tate, two 2020 2nds Gave: Godwin, Adams, Wentz My reasoning: I like Godwin, but he was a must for my trade partner. Prior to this trade he had 2 pretty big stinkers and.hia stock seemed to be falling. I wanted Lockett and he wanted Godwin. Godwin and Lockett arent too far off and I like Locketts long term situation way better than Godwin (what if TB drafts the next Mariota?? Or signs him!?!?). I feel Lockett will finish ranked higher than Godwin. I explained this to the league and the commish Adams' toe gets me nervous, and his season has been largely disappointing. Sure, he could go for more in some leagues but nobody in this league gave me anything for him. The best offer I got from someone else was a single late 1st. His situation long term isnt that great either with Rodgers and himself getting older. In the end, his toe has me extremely nervous Wentz is a bum. Jones isnt much lower, and I think he will finish higher than Wentz as well. Why the commish called him a stud is beyond me. Westbrook was doing quite well before getting hurt. I think hes a really good target ROS. He was averaging 11.1 fp/g prior to getting hurt. We have a lot of flex players and he was better than who I was flexing at the time (corey davis) Tate has been averaging 15.7 points per game this year. Again, he would have been a flex play for me, better than Hockenson, J. Samuels, Frank Gore- which were my flex options with Preston Williams out for the year. I firmly believed this made my team better. The commish and his inner circle felt it was collusive (I can honestly say it was not, I really like the guys I was getting and felt I'd finish better end of season with those 4 than the 3 I was giving up) Full disclosures: the commish knows all of the people in this league through another forum or other leagues. My trade partner and I only know each other. I had played in 1 league last year with the commish. Edited November 21, 2019 by Dr. Dan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Dufresne 11,579 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 First off...and I just can't help myself here so it's me and not you: Eluded = evaded Alluded = hinted at Second, I think you really out thought yourself in that trade and I'm not surprised that your league mates cried foul. 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barackdhouse 2,035 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dr. Dan said: So I've eluded to this trade in a few threads and largely avoided posting it because the commish frequents this forum and I didnt want it to turn into a problem on the forum. However I really want the opinions of this group. After making this trade the commish said we either had to pay 2020 dues (not anywhere in the rules) or be immediately kicked out and trade vetoed. He said I was "trading away 3 studs and receiving two 2nds and a bunch of castaways" I had every intention of coming back in 2020, however I'm not a fan of making up rules on the fly because an inner circle of the commish and 1st and 2nd place had an issue with the trade. My trade partner and I traded back, and needless to say decided to not come back. Got: Lockett, Daniel Jones, Westbrook, Tate, two 2020 2nds Gave: Godwin, Adams, Wentz My reasoning: I like Godwin, but he was a must for my trade partner. Prior to this trade he had 2 pretty big stinkers and.hia stock seemed to be falling. I wanted to move him. Godwin and Lockett arent too far off and I like Locketts long term situation way better than Godwin (what if TB drafts the next Mariota?? Or signs him!?!?). I feel Lockett will finish ranked higher than Godwin. I explained this to the league and the commish Adams' toe gets me nervous, and his season has been largely disappointing. Sure, he could go for more in some leagues but nobody in this league gave me anything for him. The best offer I got from someone else was a single late 1st. His situation long term isnt that great either with Rodgers and himself getting older. In the end, his toe has me extremely nervous Wentz is a bum. Jones isnt much lower, and I think he will finish higher than Wentz as well. Why the commish called him a stud is beyond me. Westbrook was doing quite well before getting hurt. I think hes a really good target ROS. He was averaging 11.1 fp/g prior to getting hurt. We have a lot of flex players and he was better than who I was flexing at the time (corey davis) Tate has been averaging 15.7 points per game this year. Again, he would have been a flex play for me, better than Hockenson, J. Samuels, Frank Gore- which were my flex options with Preston Williams out for the year. I firmly believed this made my team better. The commish and his inner circle felt it was collusive. Full disclosures: the commish knows all of the people in this league through another forum or other leagues. My trade partner and I only know each other. I had played in 1 league last year with the commish. Three things stand out to me. One, the commish shouldn't have made up the rules on the fly regarding expecting 2020 payment, though it is somewhat standard for deposits to be paid when a trade is questionable or involves future picks. I don't think this is *that* bad, but I get your criticism of it. Second, I wouldn't scream collusion when an imbalanced trade goes through. People use that word too loosely and the commish probably did, too. Imbalanced is worth talking about, but collusion is a whole other can of worms. Third, this trade is garbage and it sucks. I absolutely understand we all evaluate players and situations differently, and I also acknowledge that sometimes we overthink things. I think you got a little over your skis with this one. No offense, you know I defend your position on here quite a bit and value your perspective. But I wouldn't come close to taking that entire Lockett side for *either* Godwin by himself or Adams by himself, and if I were a league member I'd be very vocal about it, short of saying "collusion". The QB debate doesn't move the needle either way for me. In a bubble I'd rather have Jones than Wentz but they are throw ins in this deal. The value imbalance here is what makes this so bad. Dynastytradecalculator.com has this as 99.6 to 48.8, with both Godwin or Adams basically equalling the entire other side. This isn't even the 4 quarters vs 1 dollar debate. This is 4 quarters for 2 dollars and a quarter. Sorry. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arodin 3,083 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Dr. Dan said: Got: Lockett, Daniel Jones, Westbrook, Tate, two 2020 2nds Gave: Godwin, Adams, Wentz In my assessment, Godwin and Adams are both potential top-10 WRs for a LONG time. Lockett and Dede conceivably could be viewed similarly by some owner somewhere, but their consensus value is a tier or two lower. Let’s call Wentz and Jones a wash. Both are servicable starters, either could be great, both could flop. Tate has been around long enough to be basically a solid bye week filler/bench depth, but doesn’t swing the needle much. Do two 2nds make up the difference between two top-tier players and two lesser ones? Not in my book. I’d say you got fleeced and badly. Rules should be written in advance and enforced uniformly, but that’s a separate topic. In a ruleset where the Commissioner has veto authority over trades for reasons of “imbalance” I think reversing this is justifiable, In a ruleset where collusion is the only ground then obviously not, 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barackdhouse 2,035 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 On a side note I wish the trade deadline hadn't come yet as it appears I might be able to buy Adams low. I absolutely think he is still a potential league winning difference maker. The toe injury hasn't helped. As for TD production, I think it is fair to say last year was a positive outlier and this year is a negative one. The FF playoffs are yet to come and Rodgers has been playing pretty good ball. I'm a little amazed people are talking about Adams like he is some scrub. Especially in dynasty. I get the redraft hesitation but I'm still starting him with confidence. Blown away I am even typing that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barackdhouse 2,035 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, barackdhouse said: The value imbalance here is what makes this so bad. Dynastytradecalculator.com has this as 99.6 to 48.8, with both Godwin or Adams basically equalling the entire other side. This isn't even the 4 quarters vs 1 dollar debate. This is 4 quarters for 2 dollars and a quarter. Sorry. https://dynasty101.com/trade-calculator/ has it as 5754 to 2408. Dan Hindery's dynasty trade value chart has it as 39+38+24 to 30+7+5+18+8+8 or 101 to 76, which is a bit closer and assumes those 2nds are worth more than either Tate or Westbrook. Not sure that is true, but to each their own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyU 3,933 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) Devy League - a lot of the better players that are 2020 draft eligible are already on rosters, but both devy and reg. rookies can be taken in the rookie draft. Team A got N'Keal Harry WR Patriots and a 2020 2nd (mid probably) Team B got Zamir White RB Georgia and a 2020 1st (mid probably) Edited November 21, 2019 by JohnnyU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shrugs 579 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Yeah Dan, I’m almost willing to concede the possibility one could make a valid argument about Lockett and Godwin being a wash, but Godwin is four years younger. Then Adams is worth much more than the rest of that crap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Interseptopus 5,722 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, barackdhouse said: Three things stand out to me. One, the commish shouldn't have made up the rules on the fly regarding expecting 2020 payment, though it is somewhat standard for deposits to be paid when a trade is questionable or involves future picks. I don't think this is *that* bad, but I get your criticism of it. Second, I wouldn't scream collusion when an imbalanced trade goes through. People use koithat word too loosely and the commish probably did, too. Imbalanced is worth talking about, but collusion is a whole other can of worms. Third, this trade is garbage and it sucks. I absolutely understand we all evaluate players and situations differently, and I also acknowledge that sometimes we overthink things. I think you got a little over your skis with this one. No offense, you know I defend your position on here quite a bit and value your perspective. But I wouldn't come close to taking that entire Lockett side for *either* Godwin by himself or Adams by himself, and if I were a league member I'd be very vocal about it, short of saying "collusion". The QB debate doesn't move the needle either way for me. In a bubble I'd rather have Jones than Wentz but they are throw ins in this deal. The value imbalance here is what makes this so bad. Dynastytradecalculator.com has this as 99.6 to 48.8, with both Godwin or Adams basically equalling the entire other side. This isn't even the 4 quarters vs 1 dollar debate. This is 4 quarters for 2 dollars and a quarter. Sorry. 1 hour ago, Arodin said: In my assessment, Godwin and Adams are both potential top-10 WRs for a LONG time. Lockett and Dede conceivably could be viewed similarly by some owner somewhere, but their consensus value is a tier or two lower. Let’s call Wentz and Jones a wash. Both are servicable starters, either could be great, both could flop. Tate has been around long enough to be basically a solid bye week filler/bench depth, but doesn’t swing the needle much. Do two 2nds make up the difference between two top-tier players and two lesser ones? Not in my book. I’d say you got fleeced and badly. Rules should be written in advance and enforced uniformly, but that’s a separate topic. In a ruleset where the Commissioner has veto authority over trades for reasons of “imbalance” I think reversing this is justifiable, In a ruleset where collusion is the only ground then obviously not, 1 hour ago, barackdhouse said: https://dynasty101.com/trade-calculator/ has it as 5754 to 2408. Dan Hindery's dynasty trade value chart has it as 39+38+24 to 30+7+5+18+8+8 or 101 to 76, which is a bit closer and assumes those 2nds are worth more than either Tate or Westbrook. Not sure that is true, but to each their own. 1 hour ago, Shrugs said: Yeah Dan, I’m almost willing to concede the possibility one could make a valid argument about Lockett and Godwin being a wash, but Godwin is four years younger. Then Adams is worth much more than the rest of that crap. thank you all for the good responses. I can admit it's better long term for another team but I was trying to make a push for 2019. regardless, good thoughts here and I appreciate the discussion Edited November 21, 2019 by Dr. Dan 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Interseptopus 5,722 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, JohnnyU said: Devy League - a lot of the better players that are 2020 draft eligible are already on rosters, but both devy and reg. rookies can be taken in the rookie draft. Team A got N'Keal Harry WR Patriots and a 2020 2nd (mid probably) Team B got Zamir White RB Georgia and a 2020 1st (mid probably) I'm not in any devy leagues but initially I like Team B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 15,640 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Dr. Dan said: So I've eluded to this trade in a few threads and largely avoided posting it because the commish frequents this forum and I didnt want it to turn into a problem on the forum. However I really want the opinions of this group. After making this trade the commish said we either had to pay 2020 dues (not anywhere in the rules) or be immediately kicked out and trade vetoed. He said I was "trading away 3 studs and receiving two 2nds and a bunch of castaways" I had every intention of coming back in 2020, however I'm not a fan of making up rules on the fly because an inner circle of the commish and 1st and 2nd place had an issue with the trade. My trade partner and I traded back, and needless to say decided to not come back. Got: Lockett, Daniel Jones, Westbrook, Tate, two 2020 2nds Gave: Godwin, Adams, Wentz My reasoning: I like Godwin, but he was a must for my trade partner. Prior to this trade he had 2 pretty big stinkers and.hia stock seemed to be falling. I wanted Lockett and he wanted Godwin. Godwin and Lockett arent too far off and I like Locketts long term situation way better than Godwin (what if TB drafts the next Mariota?? Or signs him!?!?). I feel Lockett will finish ranked higher than Godwin. I explained this to the league and the commish Adams' toe gets me nervous, and his season has been largely disappointing. Sure, he could go for more in some leagues but nobody in this league gave me anything for him. The best offer I got from someone else was a single late 1st. His situation long term isnt that great either with Rodgers and himself getting older. In the end, his toe has me extremely nervous Wentz is a bum. Jones isnt much lower, and I think he will finish higher than Wentz as well. Why the commish called him a stud is beyond me. Westbrook was doing quite well before getting hurt. I think hes a really good target ROS. He was averaging 11.1 fp/g prior to getting hurt. We have a lot of flex players and he was better than who I was flexing at the time (corey davis) Tate has been averaging 15.7 points per game this year. Again, he would have been a flex play for me, better than Hockenson, J. Samuels, Frank Gore- which were my flex options with Preston Williams out for the year. I firmly believed this made my team better. The commish and his inner circle felt it was collusive (I can honestly say it was not, I really like the guys I was getting and felt I'd finish better end of season with those 4 than the 3 I was giving up) Full disclosures: the commish knows all of the people in this league through another forum or other leagues. My trade partner and I only know each other. I had played in 1 league last year with the commish. I don't like the trade for you but you offered a plausible explanation as to why you made it and how it works for you (and none of us know what will happen) and that should be enough to satisfy your commissioner. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Football 172 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 12 team PPR Team A receives: Dak, Sammy Watkins, 2020 1st(late) Team B receives: Chark, 2020 2nd(early) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeJoe88 436 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, Mark Football said: 12 team PPR Team A receives: Dak, Sammy Watkins, 2020 1st(late) Team B receives: Chark, 2020 2nd(early) Chark. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RavensPunk 1 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1) Travis Kelce for 2) JuJu, 2020 1st, 2020 5th Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shrugs 579 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 hours ago, RavensPunk said: 1) Travis Kelce for 2) JuJu, 2020 1st, 2020 5th Great value for Kelce. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Interseptopus 5,722 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Mark Football said: 12 team PPR Team A receives: Dak, Sammy Watkins, 2020 1st(late) Team B receives: Chark, 2020 2nd(early) chark pretty easy imo 4 hours ago, RavensPunk said: 1) Travis Kelce for 2) JuJu, 2020 1st, 2020 5th wow. juju all the way, nice haul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RavensPunk 1 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Dr. Dan said: chark pretty easy imo wow. juju all the way, nice haul Id actually be the one giving JuJu up, potentially. Still debating it. Haha I didn’t realize how young JuJu was. In win now mode though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FreeBaGeL 8,809 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 43 minutes ago, RavensPunk said: Id actually be the one giving JuJu up, potentially. Still debating it. Haha I didn’t realize how young JuJu was. In win now mode though. This thread is meant to be for completed trades. You're looking for the Assistant Coach forum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RavensPunk 1 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, FreeBaGeL said: This thread is meant to be for completed trades. You're looking for the Assistant Coach forum. New to the forum, appreciate that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matttyl 2,689 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 10 teamer, non PPR.... I gave up Juju (I'm still in the playoff hunt) I got TY Hilton and a 2nd round rookie pick (going to be in the 11-14 range) This was about an hour before last night's game , and I'm down Juju, Preston Williams, and Allen on bye. My only other option this week was Corey Davis. Edited November 22, 2019 by matttyl Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FF Wiseguy 25 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 12 team ppr I gave up 2020 1st (mid to late) 2020 2nd (mid to late) Gallup Rock Armstead Gronk For Kelce 2020 3rd (mid) Tannehill Currenty in 4th and in win now mode, old team looking to grab one title before rebuilding. Had Doyle and Irv Smith at TE. Losing Gallup pushes G Tate or Renfrow into my starting lineup. Tannehill serves as Lamar insurance as I only had Fitz behind. Edited November 23, 2019 by FF Wiseguy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 15,640 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 37 minutes ago, FF Wiseguy said: 12 team ppr I gave up 2020 1st (mid to late) 2020 2nd (mid to late) Gallup Rock Armstead Gronk For Kelce 2020 3rd (mid) Tannehill Currenty in 4th and in win now mode, old team looking to grab one title before rebuilding. Had Doyle and Irv Smith at TE. Losing Gallup pushes G Tate or Renfrow into my starting lineup. Tannehill serves as Lamar insurance as I only had Fitz behind. Pretty expensive for Kelce - I own him in a league where I’m for sure one of the top 2-3 teams and if I was offered this I may take it and hope I could get by with guys like Brate and Hurst. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
djmich 906 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 On 11/21/2019 at 6:17 PM, Mark Football said: 12 team PPR Team A receives: Dak, Sammy Watkins, 2020 1st(late) Team B receives: Chark, 2020 2nd(early) Fair to me 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tombonneau 985 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 22 hours ago, FF Wiseguy said: 12 team ppr I gave up 2020 1st (mid to late) 2020 2nd (mid to late) Gallup Rock Armstead Gronk For Kelce 2020 3rd (mid) Tannehill Currenty in 4th and in win now mode, old team looking to grab one title before rebuilding. Had Doyle and Irv Smith at TE. Losing Gallup pushes G Tate or Renfrow into my starting lineup. Tannehill serves as Lamar insurance as I only had Fitz behind. You better win now! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
King of the Jungle 1,374 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 On 11/22/2019 at 10:47 AM, matttyl said: 10 teamer, non PPR.... I gave up Juju (I'm still in the playoff hunt) I got TY Hilton and a 2nd round rookie pick (going to be in the 11-14 range) This was about an hour before last night's game , and I'm down Juju, Preston Williams, and Allen on bye. My only other option this week was Corey Davis. Wow. At the beginning of the season JuJu looked impossible to trade for. I do not like the trade as I am not sure Hilton is a true “win-now” piece to help you. Brissett is struggling and they seem to have gone run heavy to compensate. On top of that is the major age difference. Hope it works out for you but I would take JuJu for that price all day. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tombonneau 985 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, King of the Jungle said: Wow. At the beginning of the season JuJu looked impossible to trade for. I do not like the trade as I am not sure Hilton is a true “win-now” piece to help you. Brissett is struggling and they seem to have gone run heavy to compensate. On top of that is the major age difference. Hope it works out for you but I would take JuJu for that price all day. I'm not a huge JuJu fan but yeah at that cost it's auto accept. I think you could have held out for a more reliable win now type vet. Also, don't like making dynasty trades to just cover a bye or try to win a week, unless it's a must-win game for the playoffs. I actually try to be on the opposite side of those trades. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tombonneau 985 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 On 11/21/2019 at 6:42 PM, Dr. Dan said: So I've eluded to this trade in a few threads and largely avoided posting it because the commish frequents this forum and I didnt want it to turn into a problem on the forum. However I really want the opinions of this group. After making this trade the commish said we either had to pay 2020 dues (not anywhere in the rules) or be immediately kicked out and trade vetoed. He said I was "trading away 3 studs and receiving two 2nds and a bunch of castaways" I had every intention of coming back in 2020, however I'm not a fan of making up rules on the fly because an inner circle of the commish and 1st and 2nd place had an issue with the trade. My trade partner and I traded back, and needless to say decided to not come back. Got: Lockett, Daniel Jones, Westbrook, Tate, two 2020 2nds Gave: Godwin, Adams, Wentz My reasoning: I like Godwin, but he was a must for my trade partner. Prior to this trade he had 2 pretty big stinkers and.hia stock seemed to be falling. I wanted Lockett and he wanted Godwin. Godwin and Lockett arent too far off and I like Locketts long term situation way better than Godwin (what if TB drafts the next Mariota?? Or signs him!?!?). I feel Lockett will finish ranked higher than Godwin. I explained this to the league and the commish Adams' toe gets me nervous, and his season has been largely disappointing. Sure, he could go for more in some leagues but nobody in this league gave me anything for him. The best offer I got from someone else was a single late 1st. His situation long term isnt that great either with Rodgers and himself getting older. In the end, his toe has me extremely nervous Wentz is a bum. Jones isnt much lower, and I think he will finish higher than Wentz as well. Why the commish called him a stud is beyond me. Westbrook was doing quite well before getting hurt. I think hes a really good target ROS. He was averaging 11.1 fp/g prior to getting hurt. We have a lot of flex players and he was better than who I was flexing at the time (corey davis) Tate has been averaging 15.7 points per game this year. Again, he would have been a flex play for me, better than Hockenson, J. Samuels, Frank Gore- which were my flex options with Preston Williams out for the year. I firmly believed this made my team better. The commish and his inner circle felt it was collusive (I can honestly say it was not, I really like the guys I was getting and felt I'd finish better end of season with those 4 than the 3 I was giving up) Full disclosures: the commish knows all of the people in this league through another forum or other leagues. My trade partner and I only know each other. I had played in 1 league last year with the commish. Your league gonna overturn this when Godwin gets his third TD? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matttyl 2,689 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 8 hours ago, King of the Jungle said: Wow. At the beginning of the season JuJu looked impossible to trade for. I do not like the trade as I am not sure Hilton is a true “win-now” piece to help you. Brissett is struggling and they seem to have gone run heavy to compensate. On top of that is the major age difference. Hope it works out for you but I would take JuJu for that price all day. Well, I’ll win this week in spite of Hilton’s performance. Maybe I can move him after a big game or something. This weeks win locked me into a playoff spot and still a shot at a bye Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matttyl 2,689 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 8 hours ago, tombonneau said: I'm not a huge JuJu fan but yeah at that cost it's auto accept. I think you could have held out for a more reliable win now type vet. Also, don't like making dynasty trades to just cover a bye or try to win a week, unless it's a must-win game for the playoffs. I actually try to be on the opposite side of those trades. Fully agree. But it was a must win for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RushHour 801 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, matttyl said: Fully agree. But it was a must win for me. Couldn't you have tried to get a cheaper player who could help right away? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matttyl 2,689 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, RushHour said: Couldn't you have tried to get a cheaper player who could help right away? Possibly, but I waited a bit to hear some juju news, and I honestly thought the TY matchup on Thursday was a good one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChuckLiddell 622 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Made a big move for the playoff push: Traded 2 firsts (both playoff teams) and a late 3rd for Derrick Henry. Henry slots in as my RB1 over the terribly mediocre and horribly disappointing trio of Gurley/Mixon/Freeman. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
djmich 906 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, ChuckLiddell said: Made a big move for the playoff push: Traded 2 firsts (both playoff teams) and a late 3rd for Derrick Henry. Henry slots in as my RB1 over the terribly mediocre and horribly disappointing trio of Gurley/Mixon/Freeman. Nice, I was thinking of offering the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyU 3,933 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Devy Team A gets Gurley and Darrell Henderson Team B gets Travis Etienne RB Clemson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
King of the Jungle 1,374 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, JohnnyU said: Devy Team A gets Gurley and Darrell Henderson Team B gets Travis Etienne RB Clemson I would roll the dice with Etienne at this point. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 15,640 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, JohnnyU said: Devy Team A gets Gurley and Darrell Henderson Team B gets Travis Etienne RB Clemson Odd anyone wouldn’t want to just roll the dice on Etiene for the mediocre production of what has become of Gurley. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyU 3,933 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 33 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said: Odd anyone wouldn’t want to just roll the dice on Etiene for the mediocre production of what has become of Gurley. Well, Henderson isn't just a throw-in. I made the trade for Etienne. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kutta 5,489 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 6 hours ago, ChuckLiddell said: Made a big move for the playoff push: Traded 2 firsts (both playoff teams) and a late 3rd for Derrick Henry. Henry slots in as my RB1 over the terribly mediocre and horribly disappointing trio of Gurley/Mixon/Freeman. I own Henry and drafted him as a rookie, so I’ve been waiting for this. And I’m in the playoffs. But I’d be tempted to accept that offer. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tombonneau 985 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 9 hours ago, ChuckLiddell said: Made a big move for the playoff push: Traded 2 firsts (both playoff teams) and a late 3rd for Derrick Henry. Henry slots in as my RB1 over the terribly mediocre and horribly disappointing trio of Gurley/Mixon/Freeman. I'll take Henry. And btw great example of why you don't give up on guys so early. He goes from being valued as a second in early 2018 - people were trying to give him away for anything - to now 2 firsts + a year later. I mean just go back and read That Henry thread 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kutta 5,489 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 hours ago, tombonneau said: I'll take Henry. And btw great example of why you don't give up on guys so early. He goes from being valued as a second in early 2018 - people were trying to give him away for anything - to now 2 firsts + a year later. I mean just go back and read That Henry thread Exactly. I was tempted to dump him for a second rounder this offseason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cloppbeast 1,415 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Give: Kittle, Ryquell Armstead Get: McLauren, Hooper, 2nd (late) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycriesmary 661 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 10 Team PPR Dynasty Team A received David Johnson, Tom Brady (more than likely out of the playoffs) Team B received James White, Drew Brees (looking for more depth for the playoff run) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 15,640 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 17 hours ago, JohnnyU said: Well, Henderson isn't just a throw-in. I made the trade for Etienne. Sure but Henderson has not looked all that great in his limited work. It’s not a terrible deal but I found it odd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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