JoeJoe88 436 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 32 minutes ago, Aunt Jemima said: FFPC Gave - Noah Fant Got - 1.05 and John Ross Yikes. Even in TE Premium that seems like an extreme overpay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 15,643 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Andy Dufresne said: Why would anyone give that for Noah Fant? I'm not in any TE premium leagues but did he even get drafted before or at 1.05 last offseason in such leagues? It's hard to imagine one could turn a profit on him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barackdhouse 2,035 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said: I'm not in any TE premium leagues but did he even get drafted before or at 1.05 last offseason in such leagues? It's hard to imagine one could turn a profit on him. he went between around 1.08 and 2.02 in mine. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aunt Jemima 297 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, barackdhouse said: he went between around 1.08 and 2.02 in mine. the only thing I'd argue here is that TE's usually take longer so usually worth more in year 2 or 3 then as a rookie. Fant flashed enough that we are pretty positive he'll be good. I didn't think it was that far off but I sold him as I like the top half of rd1 in this draft. In several of my FFPC league he went 1.4-1.7 last year 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BINGBING 206 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 12 team PPR Superflex Team A gives: 2020 1.01 2021 2nd 2021 2nd Team B gives: 2020 1.07 2021 1st 2021 1st Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyU 3,933 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 22 minutes ago, BINGBING said: 12 team PPR Superflex Team A gives: 2020 1.01 2021 2nd 2021 2nd Team B gives: 2020 1.07 2021 1st 2021 1st The furthest I would fall giving up the 1.01 is 1.06. Also, I wouldn't have given two 2nd rd picks to move down to 1.06. The most I would have considered is the 1.01 and one 2021 2nd for the 1.06 and two 2021 1st rd picks. I wouldn't even do that for the 1.07. I would want one of Swift, Dobbins, Etienne, Jeudy, Lamb, or Taylor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 15,643 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, JohnnyU said: The furthest I would fall giving up the 1.01 is 1.06. Also, I wouldn't have given two 2nd rd picks to move down to 1.06. The most I would have considered is the 1.01 and one 2021 2nd for the 1.06 and two 2021 1st rd picks. I wouldn't even do that for the 1.07. I would want one of Swift, Dobbins, Etienne, Jeudy, Lamb, or Taylor. I agree with your overall point but every year a RB or WR that no one is hyping yet goes to a prime location and gets “overdrafted” so one or two of those guys will likely drop to 1.07. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyU 3,933 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said: I agree with your overall point but every year a RB or WR that no one is hyping yet goes to a prime location and gets “overdrafted” so one or two of those guys will likely drop to 1.07. Regardless, I wouldn't have given two 2nd rd picks in the deal, just one, even if I was willing to get the 1.07 instead of it being the 1.06. Not to mention that one or two of those players I listed in my top 6 could end up in a crappy situation. Edited January 17, 2020 by JohnnyU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
menobrown 3,687 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Andy Dufresne said: Why would anyone give that for Noah Fant? This is one of those trades I think the new Fant owner could end up winning but it's just a little rich to me considering the strength of this draft plus when you acquire someone in FFPC before the cutdown date at end of March I want more value since you are taking on that extra roster spot and enabling the other team to free up one. But he's 22, he absolutely flashed, this TE class is not overly strong or deep and most TE's pop in year two. I took him at 1.7 last year and don't have one iota of regret. Since majority of successful fantasy TE's break out or take big year two jumps and are rarely useful as rookies I don't think it's a stretch to think his value went up because you basically had another team waste the roster spot on him last year. I just don't like the timing due to roster constraints and general build up of rookie love and feel like if I was looking for a TE I'd not pay more then 10-12 range for him right now and I would label Fant as one of my top "buy" TE's. Look at this another way I would think the odds are considerably low that after months of rookie buildup that if you wanted Fant for 1.5 when rookie drafts start that you can't get it. The 1.5 is just much of more of a fluid likely to increase asset right now to me but now it's spent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheBottomLine 290 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 10-team PPR with IDP gave Miles Sanders, OBJ, 1.07, 1.09 got Saquon, Devin Singletary, Mike Williams Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zyphros 1,883 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, TheBottomLine said: 10-team PPR with IDP gave Miles Sanders, OBJ, 1.07, 1.09 got Saquon, Devin Singletary, Mike Williams I heavily prefer Sanders and the picks here. As good as Saquon is, give me 2 great picks that I’m confident I can draft quality players with. Maybe that’s arrogant of me thinking I can draft well. I have a tier drop after top9 though as well and a few favorites in that range that I like. I’m not a believer in Singletary or Mike Williams long term so I’d prefer giving those up instead of getting them. But I do like the idea of trading OBJ but I wouldn’t put picks with him to get something of value. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheBottomLine 290 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Zyphros said: I heavily prefer Sanders and the picks here. As good as Saquon is, give me 2 great picks that I’m confident I can draft quality players with. Maybe that’s arrogant of me thinking I can draft well. I have a tier drop after top9 though as well and a few favorites in that range that I like. I’m not a believer in Singletary or Mike Williams long term so I’d prefer giving those up instead of getting them. But I do like the idea of trading OBJ but I wouldn’t put picks with him to get something of value. I agree with all of that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ninerfan 7 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 12 Team PPR Team A receives: DeAndre Hopkins, DeAndre Washington Team B receives: Zeke Elliott, Tony Pollard Edited January 21, 2020 by ninerfan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ninerfan 7 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Thoughts? Anyone? Bueller? On 1/17/2020 at 6:05 PM, ninerfan said: 12 Team PPR Team A receives: DeAndre Hopkins, DeAndre Washington Team B receives: Zeke Elliott, Tony Pollard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyU 3,933 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, ninerfan said: Thoughts? Anyone? Bueller? I prefer Zeke. He is three years younger, but WRs last longer than RBs most of the time, so that is somewhat of an equalizer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Captain 525 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 12 Team Non PPR Team A gives: Devin Singletary, Pick 1.11 Team B gives: Ronald Jones, Rashaad Penny, Dallas Goedert, Pick 2.02 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyU 3,933 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 minute ago, The Captain said: 12 Team Non PPR Team A gives: Devin Singletary, Pick 1.11 Team B gives: Ronald Jones, Rashaad Penny, Dallas Goedert, Pick 2.02 I'm not a believer in Penny or Jones, but I do love Goedert. I suppose it's a fair trade, but what it really boils down to to me is Singletary and the 1.11 vs Goedert and the 2.02. I probably still side with Singletary and the 1.11. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxco 292 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 9:05 PM, ninerfan said: 12 Team PPR Team A receives: DeAndre Hopkins, DeAndre Washington Team B receives: Zeke Elliott, Tony Pollard Good even trade IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
menobrown 3,687 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 8:05 PM, ninerfan said: 12 Team PPR Team A receives: DeAndre Hopkins, DeAndre Washington Team B receives: Zeke Elliott, Tony Pollard Too light for Elliot IMO. He scores more in general, more consistently, at a more premium position. Plus Pollard is someone of real value, to Elliot owner or otherwise. I know I own Pollard in two leagues and you'd need a second to pry him away from me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben & Jerry's 229 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) 10 team IDP Baker Mayfield, David Montgomery, Mecole Hardman For Lamar Jackson, Foster Moreau Edited January 26, 2020 by Ben & Jerry's Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gabes1919 323 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 12 team ppr superflex Gave Kupp Got 1.09, 2021 1st, 2021 2nd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeJoe88 436 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, gabes1919 said: 12 team ppr superflex Gave Kupp Got 1.09, 2021 1st, 2021 2nd Picks 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zyphros 1,883 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 FFPC - Not involved Will Dissly got traded straight up for Ronald Jones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
menobrown 3,687 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 FFPC Gave: Tevin Coleman and Jared Goff Got: Rashad Penny Was going to cut Goff. Had Tevin as my last keeper but wanted to upgrade as I don’t think he is worth keeping. I anticipate Penny missing all or most of next season which is fine as team has no immediate needs and I think he still might be a good long term play who I can likely stash on IR next season and not take up a roster spot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EthnicFury 110 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 1/26/2020 at 2:02 PM, Ben & Jerry's said: 10 team IDP Baker Mayfield, David Montgomery, Mecole Hardman For Lamar Jackson, Foster Moreau Lamar, easily 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Birdie048 314 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 12 Team PPR 1/2/2/1/ 2 Flex I needed an upgrade on WR3 (D Adams, T Lockett, M Sanu, M Boykin, T Gabriel) & had all late picks (4 round rookie draft) limited space on Roster to use picks anyway.... Got: Cin WR John Ross Gave: 2.11, 4.06, 4.11, 4.12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Birdie048 314 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Same league as above post.... not involved... Team A Gave up: N'Keal Harry NEP WR Team B Gave up: Christian Kirk ARZ WR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeJoe88 436 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 47 minutes ago, Birdie048 said: Same league as above post.... not involved... Team A Gave up: N'Keal Harry NEP WR Team B Gave up: Christian Kirk ARZ WR Gimme the Kirk side 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maven25 65 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Two trades were made in two of my dynasty leagues: 12 team, ppr, superflex: Zeke Elliott for 1.04, 1.09, 1.11, 2.04 and 12 team, ppr: Saquon for 1.02, 1.10, 1.12, and Stefon Diggs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeJoe88 436 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 27 minutes ago, Maven25 said: Two trades were made in two of my dynasty leagues: 12 team, ppr, superflex: Zeke Elliott for 1.04, 1.09, 1.11, 2.04 and 12 team, ppr: Saquon for 1.02, 1.10, 1.12, and Stefon Diggs Honestly seems pretty cheap for both running backs... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coachoneill 31 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 This one just went down in my league (not involved). 10 team superflex PPR Team A sends: Justice Hill and 2.3 Team B sends Mark Andrews Team receiving Hill is also the Ingram owner for what that's worth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
menobrown 3,687 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 FFPC Gave: Tevin Coleman, Jared Goff Got: Rashad Penny Goff was going to be a cut and I don't think Tevin is deserving of making a 14 man off-season roster but he was my current 14th and last keeper and I needed to make an upgrade and view RB as my teams biggest need. My expectation with Penny is that he misses all or most of next season. Anything else would be a bonus. When I do cuts my RB's look like they will be Penny along with Kamara/Latavius, Dalvin/Mattison and Bell. So basically 2 starters who I got handcuffed and Bell as my #3RB. My idea here is that I stash Penny on IR most or all of next year, and hopefully in 2021 he enters my RB mix which with hope he replaces Bell as my RB3. Cost of this was basically free or whatever I could get for Goff/Tevin so pretty happy with this fairly minor trade even if I think first chance I see benefit is likely 2021. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Dufresne 11,582 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 2 hours ago, coachoneill said: This one just went down in my league (not involved). 10 team superflex PPR Team A sends: Justice Hill and 2.3 Team B sends Mark Andrews Team receiving Hill is also the Ingram owner for what that's worth. Andrews by a million. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxco 292 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 6 hours ago, JoeJoe88 said: Honestly seems pretty cheap for both running backs... Superflex makes picks a bit more valuable, so I dont think it's that bad as high 1st rounder will bet a great QB prospect. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Birdie048 314 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 12 Team PPR 1/2/2/1/ 2 Flex Gave: Clev TE D Njoku Got: Mia WR Preston Williams & JAX WR Dede Westbrook I still have TE's LAR Tyler Higbee, NOS Jared Cook, OAK/LV Darren Waller, WAS Jeremy Sprinkle & NYG Kaden Smith). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coachoneill 31 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Another one just went down in my 10 team PPR superflex Team A sends: Devonta Freeman Team B sends: Darius Slayton Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fredsavage 50 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Birdie048 said: 12 Team PPR 1/2/2/1/ 2 Flex Gave: Clev TE D Njoku Got: Mia WR Preston Williams & JAX WR Dede Westbrook I still have TE's LAR Tyler Higbee, NOS Jared Cook, OAK/LV Darren Waller, WAS Jeremy Sprinkle & NYG Kaden Smith). Unicorn by several Njokus. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ILUVBEER99 1,369 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 9:23 AM, coachoneill said: This one just went down in my league (not involved). 10 team superflex PPR Team A sends: Justice Hill and 2.3 Team B sends Mark Andrews Team receiving Hill is also the Ingram owner for what that's worth. Ouch. Andrews by a lot. By the time Ingram is done BALT will probably have a much better option than Hill to take over the role. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RushHour 801 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, coachoneill said: Another one just went down in my 10 team PPR superflex Team A sends: Devonta Freeman Team B sends: Darius Slayton Slayton Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RushHour 801 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 47 minutes ago, fredsavage said: Unicorn by several Njokus. Seconded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Birdie048 314 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Birdie048 said: 12 Team PPR 1/2/2/1/ 2 Flex Gave: Clev TE D Njoku Got: Mia WR Preston Williams & JAX WR Dede Westbrook I still have TE's LAR Tyler Higbee, NOS Jared Cook, OAK/LV Darren Waller, WAS Jeremy Sprinkle & NYG Kaden Smith). 55 minutes ago, fredsavage said: Unicorn by several Njokus. 7 minutes ago, RushHour said: Seconded. Thanks for the feedback... I was surprised by the offer... I was afraid I was missing something... He has Kittle so I was not sure his goal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
battlestar 112 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 7 hours ago, Birdie048 said: Thanks for the feedback... I was surprised by the offer... I was afraid I was missing something... He has Kittle so I was not sure his goal. I agree with the majority here so far on this deal but my guess is he is banking on new coaches to give Njoku the chance he didn’t get with Kitchens, at least this past season. I've been trying to buy Njoku cheap myself as I think he go doghoused and am hopeful his talent didn’t just up and leave. This was not a buy low however. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
metoo 411 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 12 hours ago, Birdie048 said: 12 Team PPR 1/2/2/1/ 2 Flex Gave: Clev TE D Njoku Got: Mia WR Preston Williams & JAX WR Dede Westbrook I still have TE's LAR Tyler Higbee, NOS Jared Cook, OAK/LV Darren Waller, WAS Jeremy Sprinkle & NYG Kaden Smith). Williams. I don't understand the love for Njoku, he drops too many balls and too many mouths to feed in Cleveland. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Birdie048 314 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 7 hours ago, battlestar said: I agree with the majority here so far on this deal but my guess is he is banking on new coaches to give Njoku the chance he didn’t get with Kitchens, at least this past season. I've been trying to buy Njoku cheap myself as I think he go doghoused and am hopeful his talent didn’t just up and leave. This was not a buy low however. Well, some illumination on the other owner's plans.... He traded SF TE George Kittle for ARZ Christian Kirk & 1.11 pick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Birdie048 314 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 10 hours ago, Dr. Dan said: I would have preferred to give up Waller, but you did come out on top I had been offering Waller as Trade Bait.. but no takers... The only targets were Higbee & Njoku 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fredsavage 50 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 7 hours ago, Birdie048 said: Well, some illumination on the other owner's plans.... He traded SF TE George Kittle for ARZ Christian Kirk & 1.11 pick 😖 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 22,904 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, fredsavage said: 😖 Whatever that is, I second it. Kittle all day. At least in my world. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EthnicFury 110 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 18 hours ago, Birdie048 said: I had been offering Waller as Trade Bait.. but no takers... The only targets were Higbee & Njoku As an owner of both Waller and njoku I’d prefer to keep Waller but it’s definitely closer than the low end of where I have seen njoku valued 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben & Jerry's 229 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 10 team big play IDP dynasty DE Clelin Ferrell for WR John Ross TE Chris Herndon for LB Bud Dupree + 2020 5th round pick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gally 4,687 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 7 hours ago, Ben & Jerry's said: 10 team big play IDP dynasty TE Chris Herndon for LB Bud Dupree + 2020 5th round pick Herndon is an interesting piece. He is very hard to place a value on because Griffin did well in his place and the Jets are a mess. Dupree seemed to put it together for this last year and should still get favorable matchups with Watt on the other side. I probably like the Dupree side in big play scoring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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