Ray Barboni
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Except for all of them ... which ones pissed you off most in that trade?Some people piss me off
Except for all of them ... which ones pissed you off most in that trade?Some people piss me off
Great deal for Team A. And I love Dak. But if you held rookie drafts today, Robinson is top 6 and Higgins would be late first. That's less of the value than the deferred 2021 1st and 2nd. Don't get owners like that. You are rebuilding, get two promising rookies, and you flip them for more lotto picks?Had a Higgins trade a few weeks ago. Right after Dalton's decapitation
Superflex PPR
Team A (borderline playoff team, not currently looking good) gets: Matt Ryan, James Robinson, Tee Higgins, DiNucci, Team B's 2021 5th
Team B (rebuilding) gets: Dak, Team A's 2021 1st and 2nd
I'm a biased Higgins owner, but come on. I'd auto-accept him for Keenan if I'm competing. He's got 3-4 years of WR1 level production IMO.King of the Jungle said:Not sure a first needs to be involved. Higgins side for me.
I do think it's closer than some of the others who responded, but I enjoyed the little ego inflating -- Keenan Allen is a weird one for me because he never gets the respect I think he deserves based on his consistency and track record. Dude's been a rock solid WR1 for the last several years in PPR and the new kid at QB stepped right in and continued to feed him without issue. I'm pretty sure he also just signed a contract extension. I agree he's got several more useful years left. I'm trying to trade for him in other leagues where I'm WR needy and contending.I'm a biased Higgins owner, but come on. I'd auto-accept him for Keenan if I'm competing. He's got 3-4 years of WR1 level production IMO.
As an Allen owner in dynasty PPR, I would not auto accept Higgins straight up for him.I'm a biased Higgins owner, but come on. I'd auto-accept him for Keenan if I'm competing. He's got 3-4 years of WR1 level production IMO.
I don't think your take is wrong and it seems weird to say "rebuilding" while giving up two good rookies but for contextGreat deal for Team A. And I love Dak. But if you held rookie drafts today, Robinson is top 6 and Higgins would be late first. That's less of the value than the deferred 2021 1st and 2nd. Don't get owners like that. You are rebuilding, get two promising rookies, and you flip them for more lotto picks?
Nor should you. Though this thread makes me think now in the league I own Higgins I would offer him s/u for Allen.As an Allen owner in dynasty PPR, I would not auto accept Higgins straight up for him.
Oh well if it's superflex that's different. I don't play it but seems like QB value is much much higher, so the Dak/Ryan gap is more substantial and I can't really evaluate that as well. I rescind my rebuke.I don't think your take is wrong and it seems weird to say "rebuilding" while giving up two good rookies but for context
I'm team b. My thought process was being superflex and even though my team sucks, I'm still no lock for a top 3 pick and QB's like Dak are not always readily available. I was thinking Robinson is worth a 1st but lets say he's the 1st and the 2nd. Then I'm getting Dak for Higgins and Ryan plus some junk. I think in season with a healthy Dak that offer never gets accepted. So while it really hurt to give up Higgins (still stings) I now have the option in the rookie draft to take best player available with my 2 1st's and not be tempted to reach for a QB.
But respect your opinion also
You have Higgins, Lamb and Jefferson? Wow, that's like a dynasty dream come true. I also like Sanders.Non-ppr Zealots IDP
Gave: Jonathan Taylor, Amari Cooper, Courtland Sutton
Got: Miles Sanders, Tee Higgins
Not a giant fan of Sanders but I wanted Higgins to pair with Lamb and Jefferson. I've now completely divested of JT in all three of my dynasties. Now I'm trying to trade my two firsts for Chubb but unfortunately the guy who has him seldom replies to offers.
I own CEH & like the win now team side. What are his other RBs with Jacobs now?12 team .5 PPR
Win now team got Kelce/Jacobs
For
Rebuild team got CEH/Justin Jefferson/Fant/2021 2nd (top 4)
Now I have Kamara, Jacobs, Mixon, Montgomery, Snell, JoHo, Breida, and Barkley on IR.I own CEH & like the win now team side. What are his other RBs with Jacobs now?
Zeke stock is this low?Saw another Zeke trade go down in FFPC
Zeke & Pollard
for
Gibson & Carson
Assuming CEH/Jacobs are pretty much a dealer's choice wash, that's Kelce for Jefferson, Fant & a second. I'd go Jefferson side though, simply as I think outside the RBs canceling each other out he is the best dynasty asset in this deal.12 team .5 PPR
Win now team got Kelce/Jacobs
For
Rebuild team got CEH/Justin Jefferson/Fant/2021 2nd (top 4)
I'll take Gibson, and pray they solve the QB problem next year.Saw another Zeke trade go down in FFPC
Zeke & Pollard
for
Gibson & Carson
Even if you did give a little bit too much, which you didn't, that's what you should do if you're trying to win. I like it.12 Team PPR. I am trying to repeat and go all in.
I traded Hollywood Brown/Curtis Samuel/Jalen Hurts and two 2021 2nd rd picks for Keenan Allen/Jake Luton/Tre’Quan Smith ( I’ll cut JL/TS ).
the argument amongst league mates is I gave up way too much for Keenan but again in win now mode at 7-2 and I have Kyler Murray/Dalvin Cook/Aaron Jones/Kareem Hunt/Jamaal Williams/Davante Adams/Keenan Allen/CeeDee Lamb/Diontae Johnson/Deebo Samuel/George Kittle/Dallas Goedert/Robert Tonyan.
would love to see reasons if anyone thinks I gave up too much given my current roster & depth. Adding Keenan gave me a great WR2 to start instead of having to guess out of DJ/CeeDee/Deebo etc.
thanks for ur time and opinions
I got an offer of:tombonneau said:Zeke stock is this low?
Pretty borderline, I could go either way on that and I'm not a Sanders fan. Zeke is radioactive right now - better just to hold and hope for a better trade opportunity next year I think.I got an offer of:
Give: Zeke, 2021 2nd
Get: Miles Sanders, Michael Gallup
decided not to take it.
I’d take thatI got an offer of:
Give: Zeke, 2021 2nd
Get: Miles Sanders, Michael Gallup
decided not to take it.
WOW! I would have expected them to be closer to even.1qb 1rb 2wr 3flex k d non ppr, 12 team
Gave davante adams, 2021 1st(9-12)
Get Dk Metcalf
I own Adams and wouldn’t give him straight up for Metcalf.1qb 1rb 2wr 3flex k d non ppr, 12 team
Gave davante adams, 2021 1st(9-12)
Get Dk Metcalf
I think I’d do both of these - first one for sure.Non-ppr Zealots IDP - two separate trades
Gave: Wentz
Got: Will Fuller
Gave: Two mid/later 2021 1sts
Got: Nick Chubb
Pretty solid line up now: Tua, Chubb, M Sanders, Lamb, Jefferson, Higgins, Fuller, Fant
This was the end result of a complete reboot. The idea was to get young.I think I’d do both of these - first one for sure.
But I’m not sure I’d use the word “solid” for that lineup. TONS of potential. But man, that’s a lot of youngsters with a lot of potential. We’ll have to wait to see how it plays out.
Godwin >> 1stFFPC not involved
Team giving 1st is contender, team getting 1st is building
Give
Bell, Le'Veon (RB), KC
Williams, Mike (WR), LAC
Perine, La'Mical (RB), NYJ
2021 1st Round
Get
Beasley, Cole (WR), BUF
Godwin, Chris (WR), TB
Montgomery, David (RB), CHI
Dunno, I like Godwin but the broken finger would have me a bit skittish for the stretch run. Contender is pretty weak at wr (Godwin & Beasley are starters this week) but don't think I would have done it.
Monty is probably the next best out of the rest of those pieces alsoGodwin >> 1st
The rest is just noise.
But Metcalf has done more than flash for two seasons now and also has a great QB for the foreseeable future - at what point is it enough to buy in?I own Adams and wouldn’t give him straight up for Metcalf.
Don’t get me wrong - I love me some DK. But we’ve seen WAY too many times when a rookie or second year guy flashes and we all buy in, only to find it really was just a flash. Adams is truly proven with a great QB for the foreseeable future - I don’t think I’d trade him straight up for any WR in the league.
MehMonty is probably the next best out of the rest of those pieces also
How many guys have "flashed" to the level Metcalf has though?I own Adams and wouldn’t give him straight up for Metcalf.
Don’t get me wrong - I love me some DK. But we’ve seen WAY too many times when a rookie or second year guy flashes and we all buy in, only to find it really was just a flash. Adams is truly proven with a great QB for the foreseeable future - I don’t think I’d trade him straight up for any WR in the league.
Yeah, you’re right. That’s the wrong use of words by me.But Metcalf has done more than flash for two seasons now and also has a great QB for the foreseeable future - at what point is it enough to buy in?
I'm not saying you should trade Adams for him but just not buying the logic.
See my response above. Agreed.How many guys have "flashed" to the level Metcalf has though?
Adams is a big risk to me. Obviously he is scoring great right now but his value ebbs and flows like crazy. You could make huge value gains by trading him when his value spikes and buying him back when he picks up his next nagging injury and it drops back down again, and repeating.
He's got quite a few lower leg injuries that slowed down guys like Demaryius, AJG, etc early. Even more concerning is that he has the worst concussion issues in the league outside of any skill position players not named Cooks or Reed. And those have been completely forgotten by people valuing him right now, and hence are not factored into his value even though they should be.
All it is going to take is one concussion and those previous concussions will come roaring back into everyone's memory and his value will plummet.
Any thoughts on this one?PPR SuperFlex.
Rebuilding team gave Lamar Jackson.
Competing Team gave Dak Prescott, Jalen Reagor, 2022 First, 2021 fourth.
Way too much for Lamar, IMO. Dak and basically two firsts? The gap between Lamar and Dak isn’t nearly that big.Any thoughts on this one?
Any thoughts on this one?
I'm (re)building and own Lamar Jackson, and I'd easily accept that for him.PPR SuperFlex.
Rebuilding team gave Lamar Jackson.
Competing Team gave Dak Prescott, Jalen Reagor, 2022 First, 2021 fourth.
Way too much for Lamar, IMO. Dak and basically two firsts? The gap between Lamar and Dak isn’t nearly that big.
Thanks. I gave away Lamar and feel great about it. I don't need Dak this year anyways.I'm (re)building and own Lamar Jackson, and I'd easily accept that for him.