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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (18 Viewers)
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bostonfred
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Hankmoody
Footballguy
It was an example. Boyd, Collins, Braxton Miller - name your guy that lands in a sexy spot and someone get all tingly in the pants for.
If the options were Gordon, picks or Even I'd probably opt for Even but if I had to pick I side I'd go Gordon.
I'm assuming Gordon is slated for another year in the McCoy/Whiz RBBC special but he's better than his stats showed last season, that line was putrid and even if they don't add anyone to the OL just being healthier should be a boost.
That one guy
Footballguy
A slight hijack of topic:
If any of you guys are in dynasty leagues that utilize contract years and free agency, could you PM me with link to your league rules (or just copy/paste)? One of my long time redraft leagues has finally decided to go dynasty and we all mostly agree on looking at contract setup. I'm charged with getting the rules language set in place. Much appreciated!
On topic:
I moved ASJ, Gio, and 1.08 for M Evans
If any of you guys are in dynasty leagues that utilize contract years and free agency, could you PM me with link to your league rules (or just copy/paste)? One of my long time redraft leagues has finally decided to go dynasty and we all mostly agree on looking at contract setup. I'm charged with getting the rules language set in place. Much appreciated!
On topic:
I moved ASJ, Gio, and 1.08 for M Evans
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Milkman
Footballguy
ASJ just can't get or stay on the field. He has flashed a super aggressive style at times to me but I have no faith in his ability to stay healthy. I like the Evans side here but it really depends on who he gets at 1.08.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Evans easily
Even in a TE premium league I'd have paid that for Evans if I was not getting back pick 1.8.
I'd also probably put a higher value on that pick 8 than Gio or ASJ so whoever got the Evans side got far and away the best piece and IMO the second best piece.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
In the Calvin thread I had just asked the question of what would you pay the Calvin owner. Thanks for some type of concrete data.
Also I'd take the Calvin side.
Rodeojones
Footballguy
Back in October in a 12 team PPR Dynasty league I traded Sanders and a Dev. 1.11 and 2.11 for Johnson. I felt I was in title contention and was hoping Calvin would turn things around. I ended up losing the SB and with CJ possibly retiring i'm having buyers remorse.
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I was the one getting Gordon. I feel he's kinda under valued right now. Their o-line was awful this year and tons of injuries everywhere. In this draft, I don't mind trading these picks. I also have the 1.01 here and planning on taking Elliott as of now...so felt like Gordon was a nice gamble to take.
Milkman
Footballguy
One More Rep
Footballguy
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Matt's Eagles
Footballguy
A couple of more 12 team PPR deals.....TE bonus
Team A gets Megatron
Team B gets JJ Nelson
Team C gets Edelman, Gronk, pick 2.12
Team D gets Antonio Brown, Crowell, Jonathan Stewart, CAP
Team F gets pick 1.2, Ebron, Dorsett
Team E gets Hyde, Crabtree, wolford
Team A gets Megatron
Team B gets JJ Nelson
Team C gets Edelman, Gronk, pick 2.12
Team D gets Antonio Brown, Crowell, Jonathan Stewart, CAP
Team F gets pick 1.2, Ebron, Dorsett
Team E gets Hyde, Crabtree, wolford
Clearly Nelson now that Calvin's retirement seems probable. Guessing this was made pre-rumor?
Gronk with the bonus.
Pick and Ebron.
Pwingles
Footballguy
without any context about the makeup of your roster, i think its a decent deal to free up cap space
Pwingles
Footballguy
i think he knew that. What he is saying is JJ Nelson (not retiring) > Mega (retiring)
No, actually the "pre-rumor" was because I read it as Jordy. JJ for Calvin now is probably fair value...retiring star for longshot prospect. Which chance is higher...Calvin comes back for a year or partial year and posts FF Championship worthy stats, or JJ becomes a viable fantasy WR2-3? Who knows.
Me, I'd probably take the Nelson side of that gamble, but can see the other logic.
Me, I'd probably take the Nelson side of that gamble, but can see the other logic.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
12 team ppr QB-2RB-3RW-TE-FL
- Team A gave up Bradford, Sam PHI QB; Martin, Keshawn NEP WR; Sanders, Emmanuel DEN WR
- Team B gave up Rivers, Philip SDC QB; Montgomery, Ty GBP WR; Walford, Clive OAK TE
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
12 team ppr QB-2RB-3RW-TE-FL
- Team D gave up
- Strong, Jaelen HOU WR;
- Amaro, Jace NYJ TE;
- 1.08
- 2.10
- Team A gave up
- Mariota, Marcus TEN QB;
- Brown, John ARI WR
openfieldahead
Footballguy
Nelson: don't think Calvin is coming back
Gronk: Gronk is huge in TE Bonus and Edelman still has some production ahead of him
Clive/Hyde/Crabtree: the 1.2 is nice, but Clive surpasses Ebron here and Hyde/Crabtree are nice pieces to work with
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Pwingles
Footballguy
Brown and MM. Strong might turn out ok with some more experience. Amaro, last i checked was playing H Back more so than a move TE, doesnt seem to go hand in hand with FF relevancy. Picks balance it some, but i still like the other side a lot more.
Sanders
Is JJ Nelson waiver wire fodder? In most leagues yes. Would I have held onto Calvin before giving him up for that? Yes.
But to be fair what if this person views Nelson as the next John Brown? He's got a chance to ascend into the top 3 of the WR rotation next year in AZ and while he'll never be a high volume WR his yards per pass route run(which for me is the most important stat I use when analyzing WR's) is sick impressive. I mean compare him to some other largely unproven young WR's that people are not cutting like Agholor and Strong and he's basically tripling their production every time he runs a route versus when they run one.
I mean like I said I still would not do it and if I wanted Nelson would pursue a cheaper cost but I can see what this person might have been thinking and he still might get the last laugh.
JohnnyU
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Whether the guy is right or wrong about JJ Nelson and Calvin Johnson it was still a wrong trade to make when the risk is that high because Johnson could change his mind.. Like you said there are cheaper ways to obtain players like that. Last laugh? Not to me, even if he is right about both Nelson and Johnson.
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Casting Couch
Footballguy
Team A gets
Christine Michael
Gavin Escobar
Team B gets
Nelson Agholor
MyCole Pruitt
Christine Michael
Gavin Escobar
Team B gets
Nelson Agholor
MyCole Pruitt
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
The Calvin trades from here on out will need much more context. Salaries?? Roster requirements? Contract years??
I can see giving him away for the JJ Nelson's of the world if there are salary constraints, otherwise you hang on to the guy (or pick him up cheap) in hopes he plays. Quite a lot of time from now till the start of the season for someone to change their mind
I can see giving him away for the JJ Nelson's of the world if there are salary constraints, otherwise you hang on to the guy (or pick him up cheap) in hopes he plays. Quite a lot of time from now till the start of the season for someone to change their mind
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Eh, people held Sanders for 5 years after his retirement
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Getting back to reality, I was not playing dynasty when Sanders retired. This Calvin situation is a bit unique but it reminds me of two instances from past two years.
Tony Gonzalez was one such instance and he was valuable to the end, especially in FFPC leagues. But due to his age he did not offer promise of multi-year payoff. I had him in a 1.25 TE PPR league and was able to get some value for him, just don't recall which. In FFPC leagues teams in leagues I'm in cut him, but he was redrafted in all leagues on hope he'd come back, in 6yh-7th round rookie draft range. But again even if he had come back he was likely down to a year left and if Calvin wanted to he could probably play at a high level for a few years.
The other comp was Hernandez after he got arrested. I know in some FFPC leagues he got traded for a late first after he was tabbed as main suspect. I myself offered a late first for him and thankfully got rejected.
Neither of those gambles worked out but I thought both made sense to some degree, sometimes you got to swing for the fences.
I don't own Calvin but even in a small roster FFPC type league I'd hold him all off-season and possibly into the season.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Yes I would agree he is still worth a roster spot in the FFPC 16 man cut down. I mean, I suppose people could drop him for the likes of Cecil Shorts, Denard Robinson, or a 2nd kicker or defense, but I rather take my chances he plays another year.
I don't own him anywhere so I don't have any decisions to make, but I will be trying to see what I can get him for in leagues.
I don't own him anywhere so I don't have any decisions to make, but I will be trying to see what I can get him for in leagues.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Call me crazy but this seems like:
pick 2>>Hyde
Ebron>>Wolford
Dorsett>>Crabtree
