ghostguy123
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Brown. And the smaller the rosters the better this looks.
Even with huge rosters still Brown. If I needed to rebuild I could see the other side but would go after different pieces than Perriman, Duke, and RIddick
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Even with huge rosters still Brown. If I needed to rebuild I could see the other side but would go after different pieces than Perriman, Duke, and RIddick
Pwingles
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If you looked at his numbers this season vs last season im not sure you can make that argument
Trades from a couple of leagues, each 12 team PPR
Team A: Latavius Murray, Richard Rodgers, 3.07
Team B: Doug Martin
Team A: Arian Foster and James White
Team B: Marvin Jones
Team A: Jordan Reed, Kendall Wright, Terrence Williams, 1.07, 2017 2nd, 2018 3rd
Team B: Dez Bryant, Kyle Rudolph
Team A: Latavius Murray, Richard Rodgers, 3.07
Team B: Doug Martin
Team A: Arian Foster and James White
Team B: Marvin Jones
Team A: Jordan Reed, Kendall Wright, Terrence Williams, 1.07, 2017 2nd, 2018 3rd
Team B: Dez Bryant, Kyle Rudolph
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barackdhouse
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Three trades I completed this week. PPR, TE premium. Not saying which side I'm on yet.
Trade A : Zach Ertz for 2017 2nd
Trade B : Davante Adams and Ladarius Green for 2016 3.06 & 2017 2nd
Trade C : 2017 1st for John Brown
Trade A : Zach Ertz for 2017 2nd
Trade B : Davante Adams and Ladarius Green for 2016 3.06 & 2017 2nd
Trade C : 2017 1st for John Brown
ConnSKINS26
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Both those TE deals are terrible in TE premium.
barackdhouse
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I think Green has looked good when given the opportunity
I've uncorked a series of mainly super minor, cut down fueled trades in FFPC leagues over past few days. Trades are so minor I'll just list side I'm on and brief reason, not that anyone cares but these trades are so boring it's the least I can do if I'm going to mention them.
Gave: Jay Ajayi
Got: 2017#2, (was a playoff team last year but way FFPC draft playoffs work this pick could be anywhere and this owner has earned my trust to compete at all times should he not make playoffs and be in draft playoffs)
Reason: Ajayi was on roster bubble, was highly likely going to be a keeper but when it's not certain and I can get a pick with some potential value I'll take it and keep the guy I was leaning on cutting who I like just as much and think makes more sense for my team anyway.
Gave: Crockett Gilmore
Got: 4.6
Reason: Was going to cut him and few attempts I made to get a third got rejected so took best offer I got, also had no picks in third or fourth round and wanted to get at least one pick back. As a side note I think he's better than Maxx Williams and owner who got him got a better deal than I got back, but all I care about is me. He's the kind of player I'd have cut before I took any less of an offer and just tried to redraft.
Gave: Deangelo Williams
Got: 3.10
Reason: It's a better trade for sure to the owner getting DWILL as he's the Bell owner than it was for me but similar to AJayi trade I was debating keeping DWILL or another player and had them both fairly even and got a pick for the one I could and will keep the other. I'm also pretty lean on picks to the point this is now my second best pick, best one is 24 and for those familiar with FFPC this is FFPC rules but a private league and it's got some roster options to be able to keep prospects a bit longer then traditional FFPC, which to me makes those later seconds/thirds a tad more valuable.
Gave: Jay Ajayi
Got: 2017#2, (was a playoff team last year but way FFPC draft playoffs work this pick could be anywhere and this owner has earned my trust to compete at all times should he not make playoffs and be in draft playoffs)
Reason: Ajayi was on roster bubble, was highly likely going to be a keeper but when it's not certain and I can get a pick with some potential value I'll take it and keep the guy I was leaning on cutting who I like just as much and think makes more sense for my team anyway.
Gave: Crockett Gilmore
Got: 4.6
Reason: Was going to cut him and few attempts I made to get a third got rejected so took best offer I got, also had no picks in third or fourth round and wanted to get at least one pick back. As a side note I think he's better than Maxx Williams and owner who got him got a better deal than I got back, but all I care about is me. He's the kind of player I'd have cut before I took any less of an offer and just tried to redraft.
Gave: Deangelo Williams
Got: 3.10
Reason: It's a better trade for sure to the owner getting DWILL as he's the Bell owner than it was for me but similar to AJayi trade I was debating keeping DWILL or another player and had them both fairly even and got a pick for the one I could and will keep the other. I'm also pretty lean on picks to the point this is now my second best pick, best one is 24 and for those familiar with FFPC this is FFPC rules but a private league and it's got some roster options to be able to keep prospects a bit longer then traditional FFPC, which to me makes those later seconds/thirds a tad more valuable.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
You serious? In the TE direction, way too cheap for both. And I'm not even a fanboy or owner of either.
bud29
Footballguy
Seems like a kind of low evaluation for Brown. What about him don't you care for? Just curious, since I've been throwing around a couple offers to try and trade for him in one league.smoke monster said:
My only concern about him is that once Fitz retires (really shifting Brown into the spotlight), Palmer may follow suit.
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ghostguy123
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Ertz for a future 2nd in TE premium eh? I think I know which side you were on.
FFPC Trades in leagues I'm in. Not involved in most of these
A Ertz, 3.03
B 2017 1 and 2017 3 (hard to predict finish, pretty good team)
C 1.1, Ebron, Sims, 3.1, 2017 3
D 1.3, Yeldon, ASJ, 2.3
E 1.12, Dion Lewis, 2017 3 2017 7
F 2017 1, 2017 2, 2.08 (hard to predict finish, pretty good team)
G Snead, 6.03
H 2017 2
A Ertz, 3.03
B 2017 1 and 2017 3 (hard to predict finish, pretty good team)
C 1.1, Ebron, Sims, 3.1, 2017 3
D 1.3, Yeldon, ASJ, 2.3
E 1.12, Dion Lewis, 2017 3 2017 7
F 2017 1, 2017 2, 2.08 (hard to predict finish, pretty good team)
G Snead, 6.03
H 2017 2
More FFPC trades. Not involved in most
A Olsen
B 2017 1, 2017 3 (hard to predict finish but good team)
C Dorsett
D 2017 1, 2017 4 (hard to predict finish but pretty good team)
E Decker, 2017 1, 2.3, 4.3 (hard to predict finish)
F DT, Lacy
G Edelman, 3.11
H 2017 1, 2017 2, 2017 4, Ryan Mathews (hard to predict finish)
A Olsen
B 2017 1, 2017 3 (hard to predict finish but good team)
C Dorsett
D 2017 1, 2017 4 (hard to predict finish but pretty good team)
E Decker, 2017 1, 2.3, 4.3 (hard to predict finish)
F DT, Lacy
G Edelman, 3.11
H 2017 1, 2017 2, 2017 4, Ryan Mathews (hard to predict finish)
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Yup. Even if he doesn't have more off the field issues his production will be very limited by the surrounding talent. Given the sum of his off field issues and team talent I just cannot see a high probability of success. He is a big avoid for me and I suspect there will be a lot of buyer's remorse related to Gordon this coming season.
Fair value today, but I think you will regret giving up on those young guys next year at this time.
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Pwingles
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sims/picks
like, really bad
pick side
if anyone is still giving a 1st for DM, just take the money and run.
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
FFPC
Fitz and Gates
for
Crabtree, 1.9
Fitz and Gates
for
Crabtree, 1.9
Baeddel Moon
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Newton and Forte
for
1.7, 1.11, 2.7, Smelter
for
1.7, 1.11, 2.7, Smelter
ghostguy123
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ghostguy123
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FFPC
Karlos Williams
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Pick 5
Karlos Williams
for
Pick 5
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
I like Williams but give me pick 5 hereghostguy123 said:
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
ffpc I bought him the other day, gave 2.11,2.12 for Dorsett and 3.6. I think this is closer to his value right now. Untapped potential and is a wr3. No way would I pay a first
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Evidently you have forgotten how impotent Fitz was when the Cards QB situation sucked. Or Crabtree during CK's meltdown. Or Garcon during RGII's meltdown. I could go on, but I think you get the picture now. I am saying the same thing applies here. Unless... the Browns recently acquired an NFL competent QB.menobrown said:
So when I add it up it: Possible addict + Substantial period of inactivity + Questionable QB talent = 20% chance of fantasy relevance and just not worth the risk at his current price.
HTH
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Yikes nice dealghostguy123 said:
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Or how impotent Gordon was when his QB situation su.....wait a second.Evidently you have forgotten how impotent Fitz was when the Cards QB situation sucked. Or Crabtree during CK's meltdown. Or Garcon during RGII's meltdown. I could go on, but I think you get the picture now. I am saying the same thing applies here. Unless... the Browns recently acquired an NFL competent QB.
So when I add it up it: Possible addict + Substantial period of inactivity + Questionable QB talent = 20% chance of fantasy relevance and just not worth the risk at his current price.
HTH
I think his point is that Gordon was the top fantasy WR a few years back playing with a QB carousel or Jason Campbell, Brandon Weeden, and Brian Hoyer. Hard to argue that his QB situation is going to doom him when he's already been crazy good amidst a terrible QB situation, the same way people aren't bumping Hopkins way down the rankings for being stuck with a poor QB situation.
No but I guess you forgot how bad the QB are that Gordon has played with and Crabtree's and Garcons's meltdowns were more talent/injury based than QB. So please don't go and on and on, I've heard enough.Evidently you have forgotten how impotent Fitz was when the Cards QB situation sucked. Or Crabtree during CK's meltdown. Or Garcon during RGII's meltdown. I could go on, but I think you get the picture now. I am saying the same thing applies here. Unless... the Browns recently acquired an NFL competent QB.
So when I add it up it: Possible addict + Substantial period of inactivity + Questionable QB talent = 20% chance of fantasy relevance and just not worth the risk at his current price.
HTH
And like I said there are reasons to worry about Gordon, such as 2 of the 3 things you listed, worrying that QB play is going to suddenly derail him is not one of them.
ghostguy123 said:
I'd rather have pick 5 but in an FFPC league I saw Williams dealt for similar value yesterday. That deal also included Javorious Allen going with Williams and the team getting back 1.3, 3.3 and 3.12. I've got a pretty low opinion of Allen so seems about right to me.
And I liked that deal for you and in this same league the Dorsett owner twice tried to offer me him for essentially Brandon Marshall, once during the season and again in the offseason. You got him a lot cheaper than paying Brandon Marshall, not matter how old he is.
