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40 minutes ago, -OZ- said:

Is that James white or Kevin white and Jesse James? 

 

It would take one of the top 7 players to fall to make that worth while. Which is highly doubtful, but it would be helpful to know who was selected/available there. 

Well This was a 2019 1 not 2018 1 for one. 2.2 ended up having Lynch/Zay/Engram/Njoku available. He did take Zay at 2.2.

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1 hour ago, Dr. Octopus said:

To then turn the 2.04 into Eifert - good for the OP but those leagemates are pretty bad.

I feel like we've discussed a Jeaton league in the past being pretty terrible, but I could be wrong about that. He seems to run over this league Doyle Brunson-style.

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2 hours ago, bostonfred said:

For some people Kareem hunt is part of their top 8.  Huge upside.  For some it's john Ross.  Or perine.  Or engram.  Or njoku. I assume because you said top 7 you mean the consensus top 6 plus Howard but I don't even know that for sure. 

The point is if everyone has a different 8th guy then somebody is going to feel like the 8th guy has slipped way too fast and will be willing to overpay because in their mind they're getting a bargain on 1.8, not overpaying for 2.2.

Which is why those late firsts are super valuable this year if you can get them before the draft and flip them for much more during the draft. 

:shrug: if you say so.  I can buy Hunt as part of the top 8, but not Zay Jones. 

1 hour ago, jeaton6 said:

Well This was a 2019 1 not 2018 1 for one. 2.2 ended up having Lynch/Zay/Engram/Njoku available. He did take Zay at 2.2.

understood that it's 2019.  Doesn't make the trade better. 

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9 minutes ago, -OZ- said:

:shrug: if you say so.  I can buy Hunt as part of the top 8, but not Zay Jones. 

understood that it's 2019.  Doesn't make the trade better. 

2019 further out so it should. Anyways everyone has their own values perhaps Jones was end of his tier. Who knows. But yes I think I got a great deal.

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49 minutes ago, JackReacher said:

I feel like we've discussed a Jeaton league in the past being pretty terrible, but I could be wrong about that. He seems to run over this league Doyle Brunson-style.

Idk. I do post a lot of my leagues trades and this rookie draft has been particularly fun.

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17 minutes ago, -OZ- said:

:shrug: if you say so.  I can buy Hunt as part of the top 8, but not Zay Jones. 

I'm not saying that it's worth trading up for Jones or for anyone really.  I'm saying that someone in your league may unexpectedly love a player and be willing to over pay to move up.  Seeing a lot of over pays to move up this year.   That's the point of this thread.

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1 minute ago, bostonfred said:

I'm not saying that it's worth trading up for Jones or for anyone really.  I'm saying that someone in your league may unexpectedly love a player and be willing to over pay to move up.  Seeing a lot of over pays to move up this year.   That's the point of this thread.

best I got was moving from 11 to 15 and 28, but it's rare to see people who know what they're doing trade 1sts to move up 2 spots in the 2nd.  I guess it happens but doesn't seem something to use to gauge other trades.   

8 minutes ago, jeaton6 said:

2019 further out so it should. Anyways everyone has their own values perhaps Jones was end of his tier. Who knows. But yes I think I got a great deal.

maybe.  Personally I'd rather trade my 2018 1st in my main league than 2019, but that's mostly a risk assessment. 

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19 minutes ago, -OZ- said:

best I got was moving from 11 to 15 and 28, but it's rare to see people who know what they're doing trade 1sts to move up 2 spots in the 2nd.  I guess it happens but doesn't seem something to use to gauge other trades.   

maybe.  Personally I'd rather trade my 2018 1st in my main league than 2019, but that's mostly a risk assessment. 

I think the value in seeing these types of trades is it opens you up to the art of the possible. These seem impossible but they happen. Even the toughest people to deal with sometimes think differently and you can get a deal you didn't think could possibly happen. To me it's about the relationships you build with leaguemates and being persistent. 

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1 hour ago, jeaton6 said:

2019 further out so it should. Anyways everyone has their own values perhaps Jones was end of his tier. Who knows. But yes I think I got a great deal.

The people who consistently devalue future picks are the people who consistently finish at the bottom.

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On 6/10/2017 at 11:13 AM, opensourcebeer said:

12 team ppr bestball start qrrwwwtfkd

Team A gives: 1.07 (Hunt), 2.07, 18 second (guessing late), Vereen

Team B gives: 1.04 (Mixon)

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Team B gives: Coleman, Corey, 18 first (not team B's; guessing mid)

Team C gives: 1.06 (Williams), 18 first (team C's, guessing mid)

Both seem decent market deals. I would take 1.4 and Corey. 

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1 hour ago, ghostguy123 said:

The people who consistently devalue future picks are the people who consistently finish at the bottom.

Right, which makes their picks more valuable. 

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18 minutes ago, EthnicFury said:

Gave: 2018 1st (mid-late)

got: Mike Williams, Kamara

 

A little concerned about Williams's back turning into a chronic thing but couldn't say no to the total upside

What are the chances the 1st becomes early?  If decent I'd take the pick but probably Williams and kamara.

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20 minutes ago, EthnicFury said:

Gave: 2018 1st (mid-late)

got: Mike Williams, Kamara

 

A little concerned about Williams's back turning into a chronic thing but couldn't say no to the total upside

If that 1st truly is mid-late that seems like 2 for the price of 1.  Nice job.  

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23 minutes ago, -OZ- said:

What are the chances the 1st becomes early?  If decent I'd take the pick but probably Williams and kamara.

Barring one of those "cursed by injuries" seasons, the 5-6 is in range but chances of being top-3 bad seem pretty slim. Not the front runner, but a reasonably deep perennial playoff team whose main concern is hitting a wall a year or two out because everyone is 29.

 

im gonna be real bummed if it ends up top-3, that's for sure

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On 6/10/2017 at 9:29 AM, jeaton6 said:

Gave: 2.6

Got: Shepard/3.7

This was the 2.6 acquired above

Come on. You're a teacher and the rest of your league is your third grade class, right?

all of these trades are ridicously in your favor. Some one used say pick 1.07/1.08 on Shapard last season, who went on to have a pretty good rookie season so now he sells him at a loss and adds a pick on top of it?

 

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6 hours ago, -OZ- said:

Personally I'd rather trade my 2018 1st in my main league than 2019, but that's mostly a risk assessment. 

Agreed. Much harder to project how high the pick will be multiple years out. I'd also rather buy a 2019 pick (if the team selling looked good) for the same reason

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13 hours ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Come on. You're a teacher and the rest of your league is your third grade class, right?

all of these trades are ridicously in your favor. Some one used say pick 1.07/1.08 on Shapard last season, who went on to have a pretty good rookie season so now he sells him at a loss and adds a pick on top of it?

 

Nope. This is a 2nd year league with 4 new members. Just because it's fun I'll list my latest set of trades here. So you can have more fun :)

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1 hour ago, jeaton6 said:

Same league as was discussed on prior page:

Gave: C. Coleman and Tyreek

Got: Hopkins

 

Gave: Abdullah

Got: 2018 1 (borderline playoff) 40/60 against making but one injury away from top 2. Ryan/DJ/Brown and a whole bunch of blech.

I like both for you but I can least see a glimpse of logic on why the other two would make these moves - unlike a few of those other deals.

At least the league is active.

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2 hours ago, jeaton6 said:

Same league as was discussed on prior page:

Gave: C. Coleman and Tyreek

Got: Hopkins

 

Gave: Abdullah

Got: 2018 1 (borderline playoff) 40/60 against making but one injury away from top 2. Ryan/DJ/Brown and a whole bunch of blech.

Hopkins

I will take the pick but like Abdullah. 

 

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Some FFPC ongoing startup deals.....players inserted where picks have been made.

 

3.07 (Keenan Allen)         3.10 (Jarvis Landry)

8.06                                 7.10

12.06                              11.10

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1.09 (Fournette)            1.04 (OBJ)

2.04 (Kelce)                   2.09 (A Robinson)

6.04                               7.04

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3 minutes ago, Fish said:

Some FFPC ongoing startup deals.....players inserted where picks have been made.

 

3.07 (Keenan Allen)         3.10 (Jarvis Landry)

8.06                                 7.10

12.06                              11.10

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1.09 (Fournette)            1.04 (OBJ)

2.04 (Kelce)                   2.09 (A Robinson)

6.04                               7.04

ignoring players taken in the 2nd one that is very cheap to move from 9 to 5 overall

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1 hour ago, Fish said:

Some FFPC ongoing startup deals.....players inserted where picks have been made.

 

3.07 (Keenan Allen)         3.10 (Jarvis Landry)

8.06                                 7.10

12.06                              11.10

------------------------------------------------------------------------   

1.09 (Fournette)            1.04 (OBJ)

2.04 (Kelce)                   2.09 (A Robinson)

6.04                               7.04

I'd take the 1.04 side, especially since I'd rather have the guy at 2.09 over the one at 2.04.

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2 hours ago, Fish said:

Some FFPC ongoing startup deals.....players inserted where picks have been made.

 

3.07 (Keenan Allen)         3.10 (Jarvis Landry)

8.06                                 7.10

12.06                              11.10

------------------------------------------------------------------------   

1.09 (Fournette)            1.04 (OBJ)

2.04 (Kelce)                   2.09 (A Robinson)

6.04                               7.04

Agree the move from 9 to 4 seems cheap. Kelce at #15 overall seems cheap, he's a top 10 guy in FFPC in my book (worth much more than say, Fournette). 

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39 minutes ago, JPeso said:

Agree the move from 9 to 4 seems cheap. Kelce at #15 overall seems cheap, he's a top 10 guy in FFPC in my book (worth much more than say, Fournette). 

Early/mid-2nd is where I've been seeing Kelce go in FFPC.  Granted that was before Maclin was cut.

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47 minutes ago, Gianluca said:

 

12 Team PPR

I just traded Donte Moncrief for 1.9 and CPatterson

 

gives me 1.4 - 1.6 - 1.7 - 1.9 - 1.10

 

wr - Julio Cooks Tyreek Sterling Shepard 

Moncrief by a lot. Patterson belongs on the waivers and no WR at that spot has the type of upside Moncrief has

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1 hour ago, gabes1919 said:

Moncrief by a lot. Patterson belongs on the waivers and no WR at that spot has the type of upside Moncrief has

But I think I'd take Perine or Hunt over Moncrief.

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12 hours ago, gabes1919 said:

Moncrief by a lot. Patterson belongs on the waivers and no WR at that spot has the type of upside Moncrief has

That's a pretty hyperbolic statement for a WR that was a late third round pick and is entering his fourth season having never caught more than 64 balls. Because of Luck, Moncrief does have upside of course, but so does John Ross or Zay Jones (not to mention you're allowed to take a RB or TE at that pick as well).

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8 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

PPR Zealots

Gave: Treadwell, 2018 6th

Got: 2018 1st

Even with the positive reviews out of Vikings camp, Treadwell's situation is really murky. I liked the opportunity to cut bait on him. Other guy is a good player and must have felt he's worth the dice roll.

Easy win for you, I'm surprised you can still get a #1 for Treadwell.  I'll take my chances on the future pick, even if Treadwell turns it around the trade is a no worse than a push.

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19 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

PPR Zealots

Gave: Treadwell, 2018 6th

Got: 2018 1st

Even with the positive reviews out of Vikings camp, Treadwell's situation is really murky. I liked the opportunity to cut bait on him. Other guy is a good player and must have felt he's worth the dice roll.

 

Great trade for you.  The last offer I received for Treadwell in any of my leagues was the 4.12 for him. 

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2 hours ago, Dr. Octopus said:

That's a pretty hyperbolic statement for a WR that was a late third round pick and is entering his fourth season having never caught more than 64 balls. Because of Luck, Moncrief does have upside of course, but so does John Ross or Zay Jones (not to mention you're allowed to take a RB or TE at that pick as well).

Moncrief has scored a TD in 10 of 14 games that he's played with Luck in the last 2 years. Yes his health is a concern, but those touchdown numbers tell the tale for me. Yards will be there if he ever gets over the nagging injuries.

And I just assumed that the guy was going after WR because his WR depth doesn't look great and he had another WR as a throw in

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