matttyl
Footballguy
I wouldn't have done that. It's a "Cam and..." type thing. The "and" ended up being Olsen and rookie LB Davis.
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Yeah especially given the lingo in the letter from the NFL to Zeke talking about banishing from the league if he acts out again.
Bell, if I recall, didn't even technically get a drug strike for his last suspension so his next one would still be a 4 game suspension. Zeke's, according to the league, would be for life.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
I just moved McCoy & 2018 2nd rookie pick for D. Adams, Gronk & 2018 1st in PPR. I'm in rebuild mode. Planning to move Gronk for a lesser TE + upgrade elsewhere.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
That's nuts. McCoy, Adams and that 1st and 2nd would make me consider shipping Gronk on his own, but I don't even know if I would do that.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
Yes. We all value guys differently. I am sure he thinks Gronk will be hurt again & Adams will regress a lot. Both plausible. I own Gronk in another league & want to move him there too.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Well you could say that about anything. David Johnson for Tyler Ervin...we all view guys differently.
Bottom line is on value, this isn't even close. McCoy and Adams are about tied in startup ADP. So it's basically Gronk (who goes earlier than either of them) and a 2018 1st for a.....2nd round pick.
The trade is awful. Anything can happen, sure, but he is giving away a ton more value.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Belongs in the worst trade offered thread. It is Adams and Gronk for free. Why would you rebuild? Trade Brady and Larry Fitz and see if you can get Zeke, Mariotta, Crowell, Diggs and a couple more 1sts
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
One More Rep
Footballguy
NeverEnough
Footballguy
I came in next to last last year. My team is not going to win this year so I moved McCoy.
Zyphros
Footballguy
I absolutely love Evans and I own him in every dynasty league I'm in. That said I'll take the Howard side. The way I see this one break down is Howard/1st for Evans, Crowder/Martin > Hunt.
JPeso
Footballguy
Hill Parker 2nd
Zeke in bubble, but depends on how your lineup looks without him early on.
JPeso
Footballguy
JPeso
Footballguy
One More Rep
Footballguy
Casting Couch
Footballguy
14T dynasty - no ppr
Sterling Shepard, TY Hilton, Marlon Mack
for
TY Montgomery, Keenan Allen, Future 3rd round pick
Sterling Shepard, TY Hilton, Marlon Mack
for
TY Montgomery, Keenan Allen, Future 3rd round pick
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Hilton side even in PPR, but no PPR makes it even worse. Allen has a lot of value from catches, so that's nullified here...
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Zealots PPR :X 
Team A gave up Baldwin, Doug SEA WR and Kearse, Jermaine SEA WR
Team Bgave up Inman, Dontrelle LAC WR and Landry, Jarvis MIA WR
Team A gave up Baldwin, Doug SEA WR and Kearse, Jermaine SEA WR
Team Bgave up Inman, Dontrelle LAC WR and Landry, Jarvis MIA WR
NFL-ons
Footballguy
I'm sorry, what's so bad about this trade? It looks like the most balanced one in the thread. Did one of them get hurt?Zealots PPR :X
Team A gave up Baldwin, Doug SEA WR and Kearse, Jermaine SEA WR
Team Bgave up Inman, Dontrelle LAC WR and Landry, Jarvis MIA WR
Zyphros
Footballguy
Landry is on a drastic downward spiral in value right now. Talk of them trading him, no contract extension very well won't be used as highly as in the past. Baldwin wins this trade hands down.
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
FFPC
Team A trades Fournette
Team B trade D Murray and D Henry
Team A trades Fournette
Team B trade D Murray and D Henry
NFL-ons
Footballguy
Hunh...I thought the op might have felt Landry side was the winner. I need to go make some offers for him. Probably goes to a better situation leaving Miami.
CabinFever
Footballguy
12 team PPR (I'm not a contender)
Gave: DeSean
Got: Hogan
I'm a Hogan believer and if nothing else, got younger long term.
Gave: DeSean
Got: Hogan
I'm a Hogan believer and if nothing else, got younger long term.
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Gave Demaryius Thomas (final year of contract)
Got 2018 1st (likely mid-round)
Got 2018 1st (likely mid-round)
HairySasquatch
Footballguy
12 team 0.5 ppr
Team A gives Landry
Team B gives a mid 2017 2nd round pick
Team A gives Landry
Team B gives a mid 2017 2nd round pick
msudaisy26
Footballguy
northern exposure
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
This is interesting but I'd go Wentz side at this time. Upside all over the place in this deal, though.
One More Rep
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
I would rather have Murray than fournette in redraft this year especially with the built in backup.
I think fournette and Henry long term have similar ceilings and I might prefer Henry.
So I'd easily prefer the Murray Henry side.
Zyphros
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
It's entirely relevant that Murray > fournette in redraft because the general opinion is that Murray is gone after this year, maybe next.
And after that I'd consider them very similar - I like the titans more than the jaguars, their line is already much better, the offense is conducive to stud rb production, the coaching staff looks secure because they are arguably the favorites to win the division, and Henry has already looked very good at an nfl level.
The main arguments in favor of Fournette are that he was the more highly regarded prospect, and he's younger, he was drafted earlier albeit by a bad drafting team, he is in a worse situation on a team that has struggled to get production from free agent or highly drafted rookies recently and has a weak o line and quarterback. He certainly could/should be a stud, but he's an already injured rookie with multiple foot issues early in his career.
To me, the Murray/ Henry side is the easy choice in any format.
JPeso
Footballguy
Yes, this is dynasty, but Fred's comment was relevant re: Murray > Fournette in redraft. Whether you agree that Murray actually outscores Fournette is opinion.
Ultimately, BF is suggesting he gets the better short-term option in his lineup AND gets the equal-or-better long-term option in Henry vs. Fournette, again opinion.
Cost to acquire is reasonable, let's say Fournette at 1.3ish vs. Henry at 1.5ish + Murray at 1.10ish.
I'd take Fournette in FFPC with the shorter rosters.
Ultimately, BF is suggesting he gets the better short-term option in his lineup AND gets the equal-or-better long-term option in Henry vs. Fournette, again opinion.
Cost to acquire is reasonable, let's say Fournette at 1.3ish vs. Henry at 1.5ish + Murray at 1.10ish.
I'd take Fournette in FFPC with the shorter rosters.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Fournette by a lot for me.
In my FFPC startup this year Fournette was drafted late 1st round and Henry late 4th.
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
another FFPC
Team A trades Corey Coleman and 2018 3rd rd pick
Team B trades Tyreek Hill
Team A trades Corey Coleman and 2018 3rd rd pick
Team B trades Tyreek Hill
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
12 team ppr QB-2RB-3WR-TE-FL
Team A gave up
Elliott, Ezekiel DAL RB;
Johnson, Chris ARI RB;
McFadden, Darren DAL RB;
Morris, Alfred DAL RB
Team B gave up
Asiata, Matt DET RB;
McCaffrey, Christian CAR RB;
Year 2018 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team D (likely non-playoff team)
Team A gave up
Elliott, Ezekiel DAL RB;
Johnson, Chris ARI RB;
McFadden, Darren DAL RB;
Morris, Alfred DAL RB
Team B gave up
Asiata, Matt DET RB;
McCaffrey, Christian CAR RB;
Year 2018 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team D (likely non-playoff team)
