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Again, I didn't say I was insulted or would find it insulting by being offered the 1.04 and 1.09 for the 1.01. If people want to keep setting up this Straw Man go ahead, but I not going continue the discussion when my position keeps getting mischaracterized.
Context is everything. Since you always have to have the last word, go for it. I am finished with this discussion.
I'll give you the opportunity for the last word.Context is everything. Since you always have to have the last word, go for it. I am finished with this discussion.
Have a good day.
There are two people on your side of the discussion.
No, it wasn't an insulting offer.
Honestly I'm not selling DT in most other leagues that I own him in, but in this particular league I needed to take a chance at some youth and RB depth. Not in love with Gordon or Diggs, but hoping Gordon can rebound into half of what he was hyped to be and that Diggs can be what he is hyped to be. If either work out, or I hit with 2.02, this trade can be a win. Possible for none to work out and this be a big dud too, though.
As of now, I see 2 and 4 as kind of in the same muddled tier of top WRs and the best non-Elliot RB. Without knowing landing spots, I don't see anyone I want so badly at 2 that I wouldn't be equally happy with who I can get at 4. So 4/9 vs. 2/9 doesn't really do anything for me. I might consider trying for 2/4 or 3/4, though, and throw in something later in the draft on my side, depending on team needs.
My bad then. I lost track of the conversation a bit and thought I characterized things correctly. My apologies if I got it wrong.
I'll go with the Benjamin side here. If he does ANYTHING he will be worth more than a mid 1st next year, not to mention you get that production this year.
I understand the logical thinking behind your point. But, there is an emotional side to human interaction. What are you, a computer programmer? if you come to me looking for an elite player or pick and it's obvious you presented the lowest feasible offer, I'll probably tell you to get lost. Simple as that; the deal doesn't fly.
In PPR I'd take the Gordon, Diggs side. Purely because I don't have faith that Denver will solve their QB situation anytime soon and Diggs could be a PPR monster in coming years. Bridgewater doesn't throw a deep ball, but what he does throw is perfect for a precise route runner. No faith in Gordon but last year he was a top 5 pick so people saw something in him I suppose. And 2.02 probably won't end up being a star, but could be a solid addition.
If the team giving up Benjamin is deep at WR and RB needy, I like the picks side. For the average team, give me the proven player.
You're looking at it wrong big time. If you are expecting more in return because one team is stronger but would accept the same deal for less from another team, then I have to tell you that is a warped mindset.
Monc for the 2.02? I'll gladly move down 1 spot in exchange for the Monc. Easy choice too.
I can honestly say this thought has never crossed my mind and from the reactions in this thread it seems I'm not alone. You are certainly the only person that's gone as far as saying you'd be insulted by such a scenario and tell the other person to get lost. I realize that some people just approach their day to day life like the world is out to get them so maybe this is an extension of that, but this is certainly not just some normal unavoidable human response like you're making it out to be, as evidenced by the fact that literally no one else in here feels that way.DropKick said:
im in this league.
Looks like the guy who just gave up Moncrief for peanuts is the early leader for most turrible owner of 2017.
Run it up, and myself are in 2 dynos with both of the owners involved in that deal. They dont always make bad trades with each other, but all their trades are bad.
Same Team A in all 3.
Coin flip the QBs.
Picks in the first deal.
same owner turned downAwesome way to start negotiations.
every class is different, so across many classes its hard to put a value on a set pick, for example, last years 1.02 is worth more than this years 1.01
maybe to my point about classes being hard to valuate yearly or maybe to the 1.02 statement?
We all have our subjective assessments of draft classes. However, only time will tell on whether this year's 1.01 has more VBD over 5 years than the 1.04 and 1.09. That was my only point.
I agree there. Its certainly possible. In a rookie draft a few years ago watkins went 1.01, ebron went 1.04 and OBJ went 1.09 so, totally possible
What draft were you in that it didnt go Gurley/Cooper? Id take either of them over Zeke, and im about as high on him as one could be
gordon did actually go 1.02 in one of my leagues, but I think most ADP data from last year had the other two going 1/2 in some order
