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barackdhouse
Footballguy
Agreed. Or folding pocket aces in the middle of a big hand that you've already invested a ton into. Sometimes you just have to fold.FreeBaGeL said:
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Like I said I get it. I would take a 2nd too. I gambled as well and got lucky. I was convinced a month ago but it wasn't more than a guess. And when you're talking about such a premium asset it is a major gamble. Just be glad you're not one of the guys that gave up some real value.Bfrahm3 said:
ffmail4me
Footballguy
After the way the draft went last night, I think this was an even better move to make. Seems there will be great value in the late 1st and into the 2nd. I was due for some good fortune after buying Hill like an idiot in 2 leagues over the last month.
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kittenmittens
Footballguy
It's rookie fever season.
Beckham is an established elite asset, is only 26, and heading to an elite offense with an excellent QB.
Jacobs might not even get 3rd down work..
Jacobs and Kirk could hit their ceilings and still not be worth Beckham.
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No it's build my team for the future season.
Odell will turn 27 before midseason, will start to see his value nicked for age and soon and while a great talent has not been not hit 19 PPG since 2015. I think he's a 18-20 PPG 27 year old WR. That's good, that's valuable, that's not a difference maker to me.
You go ahead and believe Jacobs won't get third down work and the laughable take that he and Kirk have hit their ceilings all you want. I believe this time next year you'll need to give Odell+ to get just Jacobs.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Yes this one aged well for you. 1.6, 1.9, and 1.12 are probably all in the same tier now.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
The bolded is the laughable take. Thinking rookies are going to be better than top 8 dynasty assets before they play a down is the definition of rookie fever...
I didn't say they have hit their ceilings. I said they could and still not be worth Beckham.
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
beef
Footballguy
Yet the best part might be the unloading Lamar. But agree. 9 & 12 won't be much different for me than 6.
I don't own Kirk but that would not leave me down on him at all. We'll see how much Kingsbury adjusts to the NFL but at T Tech his base offense was 10 personnel, 4 RB's and 1 RB. On team with just ancient Fitz and Kirk of course they needed to address WR and if he's not putting 4 WR's on the field he'd likely putting 3. In other words, Kirk projects as an every down player.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Sure but that’s some added competition for targets (I’m very high on Isabella and a lot of people are high on Butler) and Fitz is still there at least for this year. Kirk’s value has to take a slight hit post draft.
Regardless the deal was light to begin with.
For sure not how I see either of the bolded takes so we are in agree to disagree land.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Kirk doesn't have much value to me, so this is basically OBJ straight up for the #1 pick with a VERY weak top of the class compared to most other years.
Not good IMO
Not good IMO
Ben & Jerry's
Footballguy
10 team IDP ppr
1.02 + 1.03
for
Tom Brady
Le'Veon Bell
Jalen Ramsey
1.02 + 1.03
for
Tom Brady
Le'Veon Bell
Jalen Ramsey
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Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
FFPC
1.1 and 4.1
for
1.2 and 2.8
1.1 and 4.1
for
1.2 and 2.8
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I guess someone was just so torn between Jacobs and Harry that they wanted someone else to make the decision for them.
hunter1
Footballguy
That's a laughable take? From the guy who said "Jacobs might not even get 3rd down work"? Who's getting 1st and 2nd? Marcus Allen?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
If he said Jacobs might not even get third down work wouldn’t he be the one getting 1st and 2nd? Jalen Richard did very well in the third down role last season - he may cede more work to Jacobs now but he’s surely a threat to third down work.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
I don't think I understand your post.
To be clear, I think he is a starter with decent talent and decent opportunity. I think his ceiling is closer to James Conner's current value than it is to somebody like Barkley or Zeke who would take Beckham+ to acquire.
Even good pass catching running backs lose 3rd down snaps when they have a really good receiving specialist back on their team. It's not a given that he's in over Richard during a 2 minute offense type of situation.
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mcintyre1
Footballguy
Worked out this trade today after having acquired the 1.01:
I give: 1.01, 2020 1st, Julian Edelman, Devin Funchess, Tyler Lockett
I get: Todd Gurley, Malcolm Brown, Anthony Miller, Tyrell Williams, 1.08
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
I dislike it myself, lot to pay for a running back that will no longer be a workhorse
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I dont know. He paid less than pick #1 it seems.
Really Boyd and a 2nd when all said and done
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
1.01, 2020 1st. I love the short term value of all three players on that side, too. I just can't see spending premium assets on Gurley right now.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Snorkelson
Footballguy
I like Boyd/Monty in trade 1 but I haven’t really been on the Jacobs train.Ratbone said:
Second trade I’ll take Godwin and the picks.
When you put team 1s moves together they got Godwin, Boyd, 1.04, 2.05, 2020 2 for 1.01/1.06. I think this could work out.
TheBottomLine
Footballguy
10-team PPR with IDP
Tyreek Hill
for
2020 3rd
Tyreek Hill
for
2020 3rd
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Why not hold at that price? I mean, treat it like a knee tear, he's done this year, he may play in 2020.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Because some people cant separate magic football from real life when it comes to rostering bad dudes.Why not hold at that price? I mean, treat it like a knee tear, he's done this year, he may play in 2020.
Guys, if you roster Hunt, Hill, Vick, Rice.......it doesn't make YOU a bad guy.
Also, if it is a free league, who cares.
With money on the line I will stick with my magic bad guy team that wins.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Counterpoint: Because it's not fun and it feels dirty.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Either way.
To be clear, I'm not passing judgement at all on FFB players like yourself that think otherwise. Honestly.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Sorry. Money on the line or no money makes a difference. Makes ALL the difference.
Its fantasy football. You never meet the guy. The guy gets none of your money. You are not supporting him in any way. Nothing changes in his life whether or not you or anyone rosters him.
And sorry to burst your bubble, but if you really feel that way you shouldn't play FF at all. There are quite a few guys you currently root for that you would have to cut if everything they have ever done came to light.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I tried to be nice in my response and you come back with this.
You're something else.
mcintyre1
Footballguy
I guess I can see why the Gurley owner was so eager to offload him now 
I'm on the train that he isn't done, but will see reduced workload. I'm planning to get Henderson in the draft (would like to trade down a little because I think 1.08 is too early for him), and I've already got Malcolm Brown and John Kelly, so I kind of saw this as locking down the Rams backfield. I've also got Christian McCaffrey and Joe MIxon at RB and can start up to 3, so I think I'll be decently positioned.
I also really didn't want to have to make the call at 1.01 on who to take, not sold on anyone in this draft, but do like the depth/opportunity.
I'm on the train that he isn't done, but will see reduced workload. I'm planning to get Henderson in the draft (would like to trade down a little because I think 1.08 is too early for him), and I've already got Malcolm Brown and John Kelly, so I kind of saw this as locking down the Rams backfield. I've also got Christian McCaffrey and Joe MIxon at RB and can start up to 3, so I think I'll be decently positioned.
I also really didn't want to have to make the call at 1.01 on who to take, not sold on anyone in this draft, but do like the depth/opportunity.
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
FFPC
Jared Cook, 1.9, 3.1
for
1.4, 4.7
Jared Cook, 1.9, 3.1
for
1.4, 4.7
12 team SF ppr
Trade I just completed
I gave 1.02
I got 1.04 and Jordan Howard
Not the greatest return but I am not high on Jacobs at all and have him, Harry, Montgomery and Sanders all in the same range with Harry having the advantage. I don’t need WR as much as RB so moving back for anything is good since I would probably still make the same pick
Trade I just completed
I gave 1.02
I got 1.04 and Jordan Howard
Not the greatest return but I am not high on Jacobs at all and have him, Harry, Montgomery and Sanders all in the same range with Harry having the advantage. I don’t need WR as much as RB so moving back for anything is good since I would probably still make the same pick
ghostguy123
Footballguy
When is your draft? If its today then fine.
If it's at the end of August, I hate this for you.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Not at liberty to say right now but what I don't mind saying is Josh Jacobs is tier one and tier 2 is made up of two players. Inside that second tier of two I do have a slight preference but would not call it clear cut yet, still processing information.
So moving from 2 to 3 is not nearly as bad as 2 to 4 for me but if Jordan Howard is all I get back, who I know for sure at best I would not even look at until round 3 at best, I'd just hold onto 2. I realize his draft is tomorrow but if I'm settling for Jordan Howard I'm going to wait that extra day even if I saw no difference between 2 and 4, which I do.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
All well and fine, but he odds that your top 3 are the same as the people drafting ahead of you is slim to none right now if the draft is tomorrow.
I still dont make the deal cause Howard is meh, just saying this is a terrible deal in August but right now it just kinda bad
I would be willing to bet the bolded is not the case. Have spoke with 3 different people today privately who all have the same top 3. Unlesss this is superflex or something what you label as slim to none I label as likely.
My top 3 personally are Murray, Harry, Sanders, Jacobs since if superflex. I know Murray will not fall based on the 1.01 holder only having 1 qb, I am very, very needy at RB so I would’ve probably ended up picking for need instead of best player available. Howard isn’t the greatest return but as I said, I get to pick within my tier break and probably get the guy I wanted all along while getting something extra. I’m not unhappy with it but I get what you all are saying about lost value, I agree
My mistake, I was not aware it was superflex. That does change things. I'd still have wanted more but if you get Sanders and Howard pairing that could work out for you.
