hunter1
Footballguy
Oops. I totally misread that. I thought he was saying by not getting 3rd down work, he might get no work at all. Bygones Carry on.
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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (16 Viewers)
- Thread starter Gottabesweet
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kittenmittens
Footballguy
1.02 (Jacobs) all day here. I've been lower on Jacobs than most and I'd really prefer Jacobs by a mile here. Harry isn't a horrible consolation though, or Haskins could be there.
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
FFPC
Pick 5 and a 2020 3rd (probable non playoff team)
For
2020 1st and 2nd (probable playoff team both picks)
Pick 5 and a 2020 3rd (probable non playoff team)
For
2020 1st and 2nd (probable playoff team both picks)
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
PPR, 6pt per TD league
Sent:
Cam Newton, CJ Anderson, Dontrell Hillard, 4.12, 6.12, rookie picks
Got:
Jared Goff, Chris Herndon, Chase Edmonds, 3.1 rookie pick.
Sent:
Cam Newton, CJ Anderson, Dontrell Hillard, 4.12, 6.12, rookie picks
Got:
Jared Goff, Chris Herndon, Chase Edmonds, 3.1 rookie pick.
Our draft started Tuesday and that has brought on a slew of trades within 24 hours of the draft. The second trade on were I posted already but I will update these trades with selections where they’ve happened
Team A gets Hopkins
Team B gets 1.04 (traded later), 1.12 (traded later), and R Woods
Team B gets 1.02 (selects Harry)
Team C gets 1.04 (selects Sanders) and J Howard
Team A gets 1.05 (selects Haskins)
Team D gets D Williams
Team B gets 1.06 (selects Montgomery) and R Foster
Team E gets 1.12, 2.12, 2020 2nd, 2020, 2020 3rd
Team F gets 2.08 and 2020 1st
Team G gets 1.07 (selects D Samuel)
Team F gets 2.07 and 2020 1st
Team H gets 1.09 (selects Butler) and 3.05
The trade for Hopkins is terrible, everyone in the league panned it. Team B’s team is in really really bad shape and not close to winning at all but he didn’t shop around and made a bad trade. Team F started with the 1.01, 1.03, 1.07, and 1.09 and now has Murray, Jacobs, and three 2020 1sts. He earned the 1.01 last year but has made some smart moves for the future
Team A gets Hopkins
Team B gets 1.04 (traded later), 1.12 (traded later), and R Woods
Team B gets 1.02 (selects Harry)
Team C gets 1.04 (selects Sanders) and J Howard
Team A gets 1.05 (selects Haskins)
Team D gets D Williams
Team B gets 1.06 (selects Montgomery) and R Foster
Team E gets 1.12, 2.12, 2020 2nd, 2020, 2020 3rd
Team F gets 2.08 and 2020 1st
Team G gets 1.07 (selects D Samuel)
Team F gets 2.07 and 2020 1st
Team H gets 1.09 (selects Butler) and 3.05
The trade for Hopkins is terrible, everyone in the league panned it. Team B’s team is in really really bad shape and not close to winning at all but he didn’t shop around and made a bad trade. Team F started with the 1.01, 1.03, 1.07, and 1.09 and now has Murray, Jacobs, and three 2020 1sts. He earned the 1.01 last year but has made some smart moves for the future
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Seems like moving out of 1.6 for a future 1/2 is the way to go?
1.6 next year > this year?
Assuming Harry/Jacobs/Sanders are 1-3
I don't think it is that bad. Woods was the number 11 Wr in ppr last year. Plus the 2 picks I think it is good. Those picks can be David Montgomery and one of- Marquise Brown, one of the TE's, Hardman. Thats not bad especially if you need to rebuild.
Drezden
Footballguy
I am thinking 1.04, 1.12 and Woods is a fair deal, sure prefer higher picks or better/younger WR but you take best from situation, not brutal trade IMO
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Like side getting Sanders side in PPR and that positive feeling only gets stronger in half PPR. Would have given Diggs/Vance for this even without the picks.
If that's what I got back for Hopkins I'm sure holding. If I'm rebuilding and wanting to deal Hopkins to facilitate it I need some 2020#1's and/or a top 3 pick in this draft.
Rookie fever absolutely kicked in for that guy. His roster was real bad but despite that, he should’ve held or shopped for more value because what he got will only make him mediocre at best this year. That’s not how you rebuild
Agreed. I'm not really a big fan of this draft outside of a couple guys, and he didn't even secure a Top 3 pick. Throw me in a 2020 1st and we can talk. But to me, that doesn't move the needle enough for arguably(it may not even be an argument) the top ranked dynasty WR asset.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I offered up the 1.6 when it was on the clock and no one wanted it. I like Metcalf and might have kept him but my team in this league still needs a lot more help. In this case, as we got into the early 2nd round I sent the offer to an owner who I know spent the 1.3 on Metcalf in another league and we haggled back and forth a little bit.
deadlyrange0321
Footballguy
12 team PPR 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1FLEX
Team A trades:
Pick 2.01
Team B trades:
Rashaad Penny
Team A trades:
Pick 2.01
Team B trades:
Rashaad Penny
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Zyphros
Footballguy
kutta
Footballguy
What would you say he is worth in picks? I think this is about right. He is one of the most offered players I have seen this offseason. But the owners want way too much back.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Who are you getting at 2.01 this rookie draft that is a better bet than Penny? Nobody.
I don't know that any of those guys are better. But there are some good players available. In my recent ppr draft M. Brown went at 1.12, then 2.1 or later were both TE's, Hardman, Samuels, Murray, Whiteside. I am saying that he had a chance and didn't do anything. It is not unreasonable to take a chance on one of these guys over him. But he is probably one of those players that has way more value to the team holding them than to a team trading for him.
I like it. I'm really high on Mack this year, I see him as a 1300-1400 total yardage guy with a good chance for double digit tds. Sammy's situation is better on paper, but I don't have much confidence he's going to stay healthy.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Zyphros
Footballguy
1.04-1.07 probably. I wouldn’t pay it because I think his perceived value is that high, but that’s what he should be worth imo. He showed plenty as a rookie and the only thing that kept him from doing more is Carson who showed extremely well along side him. You compare it to Denver and Freeman didn’t show nearly as well while Lindsay showed out. Penny did work but it was overshadowed by another.
When I comp an existing player to incoming rookies I usually find it easier to comp them relative to their position as a starting point. To me he'd I'd be mulling over him vs Montgomery for RB3/4 and weight fact fact I like Penny's talent more, like Montgomery's situation more. That would put his value as somewhere in the mid first for me.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Hard to say it was all about Carson, when Davis started over Penny when Carson was out.
FTR: I think Penny is a stud if he can lose 10 pounds and keep it off. But I was burned by Eddie Lacy, so I’m gun shy.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I'll take my chances with the pick. The Lions just don't seem committed to using their Johnson.
I think you made my point when you said you wouldn't give that for him. His value is only what someone would give. If no one in the league would give the 1.7 then he isn't worth that. As the owner I can make up any arbitrary value, but what I can get for him is his value. That is why I think 2.1 is his value. Enough for the person sellign to give him up and low enough for the buyer. Have you (anyone) seen a trade with Penny? If so what did it bring?
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I have sold him in a couple spots, but it's almost never a simple case of player x for rookie pick z. I think in every instance there were other assets involved. But fwiw:
Penny and 1.12 for DJ Moore and 2.09
Penny, Robby Anderson, Reed, 1.10 (TE premium) for Ebron and Ingram
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Two in one of my leagues. 1QB league
Flacco, 1.8
2020 late first, 2020 early second.
And
Ty Hilton for 2.1 (13 overall) PPR
Flacco, 1.8
2020 late first, 2020 early second.
And
Ty Hilton for 2.1 (13 overall) PPR
battlestar
Footballguy
