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The trio of 1sts and not close.12t ppr not involved
1.7, 1.8, 2020 1st (likely top 6) and 2020 2nd likely early
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2020 1st (highly likely 1.1) best rb is Howard best wr is R Anderson
The trio of 1sts and not close.12t ppr not involved
1.7, 1.8, 2020 1st (likely top 6) and 2020 2nd likely early
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2020 1st (highly likely 1.1) best rb is Howard best wr is R Anderson
When you’re talking about a likely top 6 pick versus the likely 1.01 pick it seems like there’s a fairly decent chance you paid a hell of a lot to move up 1 or 2 draft slots (and there’s a chance you could even drop in the 2020 draft). Things happen that you can’t always predict.For which team? I think it is pretty even, but certainly expected a range of views
Well explained. Thanks.Was not an easy trade for me to make and I may not know better. Main reasons I made the trade:
1. Got irked by James Palmer report a few weeks ago since he seems pretty connected to Denver and he said the Denver coaching staff plan was to give Freeman more carries then Lindsay. Makes no sense but that worried me.
2. Lindsay is my RB4 on this team, if he was higher up the pecking order would have been a problem but as I felt it made sense to sacrifice 8 games from my RB4 to potential of longer term upgrade. Hunt is a year younger, bigger and IMO just has more upside. Obviously where Hunt is playing in 2020 will drive a lot of his value but yes I would be inclined to think he'll be the lead dog wherever he goes but at worst I'd see him as in a role like Lindsay is looking at, which is part of a 2 man RBBC it would appear.
3. I personally feel Hunt vs Chubb in terms of who is more talented is a legit debate. I prefer Hunt but I don't fault anyone who sees otherwise. Chubb did not starting getting much work until week 7 last year. He will of course be getting a heavier workload from week one this year and that might prove more challenging for him to play like he did from week one this year vs coming in with fairly fresh legs in week 7 last year. By the time Hunt is back with fresh legs it might Chubb who is worn down a little and I also think a solid chance as we approach the trade deadline they will be more open to dealing Duke if they have not already done so knowing Hunt is coming. My belief is, and we'll see how this goes, is that Hunt will be a bigger factor for playoff teams next year in the last few weeks of the season then Lindsay will be.
Summary if I can survive negative of losing my RB4 for 8 weeks, which is not something I take lightly, but if I can I think I'll be better off in the long term with to me a good shot to be better in playoffs this year. I could be wrong but that's the thought process behind me taking this shot.
So net it’s kerryon/2020 1/2020 2 for 1.03/1.04/2.04? I’ll take kerryon and the 2020s.12 team FFPC
Team A gave Kerryon Johnson, 2020 1st (finished in 2nd last year but who knows moving forward)
Team B gave Guice, 1.03
followed by
Team A gave Guice, 2020 2nd
Team C gave 1.04, 2.04
I think Swift and Jeudy are miles ahead of anyone in this class and two of the best prospects to come out in years. It’s a high price to pay but not unreasonable in my opinion.Wow I don't think it's even at all. 1.07 and 1.08 this year for maybe a better 2020 pick is insane. I don't care how bad his roster is now, all it takes is one decent draft and one decent waiver add and that guy is upside down. Plus he gave a 2020 2nd. It's possible even if the pick ends up 1.01 that the 1.07 and 1.08 this year were free. That's a horrible gamble to take.
This thread is for completed trades only. Try the assistant coach forum. Or, if you ask in a general way, try the dynasty value thread.Currently debating this trade offer in my 12 team dynasty PPR. I’m being offered K Hunt for my 2.04. We can start 1qb, 1rb, 1wr, 1te, and 3 Flex. If I were to keep the pick I was looking at drafting Samuel Deebo but I’ve pasted the top remaining players based ADP and if anyone has any advice, I’d be eternally greatfull as I’m struggling to decide
AVAILABLE PLAYERS BASED OF ADP
1Harmon, Kelvin WAS WR (R)
2Harris, Damien NEP RB (R)
3Haskins, Dwayne WAS QB (R)
4Samuel, Deebo SFO WR (R)
5Arcega-Whiteside, JJ PHI WR (R)
6Anderson, Rodney CIN RB (R)
7Singletary, Devin BUF RB (R)
8Smith Jr., Irv MIN TE (R)
9Hill, Justice BAL RB (R)
MY ROSTER
Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB
Wilson, Russell SEA QB
RB
Ajayi, Jay FA RB (Q)
Cohen, Tarik CHI RB
Elliott, Ezekiel DAL RB
Jacobs, Josh OAK RB (R)
Johnson, Duke CLE RB
Lewis, Dion TEN RB
Sanders, Miles PHI RB (R)
Smith, Ito ATL RB
WR
Brown, John BUF WR
Bryant, Dez NOS WR
Gabriel, Taylor CHI WR
Golladay, Kenny DET WR
Goodwin, Marquise SFO WR
Jeffery, Alshon PHI WR
Kupp, Cooper LAR WR
Moore, David SEA WR
Patterson, Cordarrelle CHI WR
St. Brown, Equanimeous GBP WR
TE
Herndon, Chris NYJ TE
Reed, Jordan WAS TE
Schultz, Dalton DAL TE
Thomas, Jordan HOU TE
People thought that of AJ Brown and others in this draft (and not) 12 months ago too. If you were getting a guarantee, maybe. But if that original pick is "likely early" that owner already has a shot at one of those guys.Raback said:I think Swift and Jeudy are miles ahead of anyone in this class and two of the best prospects to come out in years. It’s a high price to pay but not unreasonable in my opinion.
So you got the better picks on both sides. That’s an odd trade for this guy to make. He’ll be picking first or second for many years to come.Got
Blount, LeGarrette DET RB
Year 2019 Draft Pick 4.02
Year 2020 Round 1 Draft Pick
Gave
Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.01
Year 2019 Draft Pick 4.11
Not that I want Blount and was deciding between Campbell and Deebo in non-ppr. But you can't pass up 1st round picks. The team I got this from is picking 2nd this year.
Welcome new poster. There's a banner from the moderation team on the main page of this forum to help you out:Currently debating this trade offer in my 12 team dynasty PPR. I’m being offered K Hunt for my 2.04. We can start 1qb, 1rb, 1wr, 1te, and 3 Flex. If I were to keep the pick I was looking at drafting Samuel Deebo but I’ve pasted the top remaining players based ADP and if anyone has any advice, I’d be eternally greatfull as I’m struggling to decide
Yea I’m just going to have to disagree on that. This class was seen as lacking in superstar prospects from a ways back. 2020 class has multiple high level players who would have likely been the 1.01 if they had been in this class. Next years 1.01 is going to be enormously value this time next year.People thought that of AJ Brown and others in this draft (and not) 12 months ago too. If you were getting a guarantee, maybe. But if that original pick is "likely early" that owner already has a shot at one of those guys.
2020 1st (likely top 6) and 2020 2nd likely early
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2020 1st (highly likely 1.1)
Just with those components that guy could be giving up his 2nd to move BACK in the draft. I would not do that trade by itself. But wait, he's giving him the 1.07 and 1.08 which may help make his pick later? Even if those become Moore and Sutton there's a ton of lost equity there. It's just irresponsible to include his own 2020 1st in there.
Personally I'd take Deebo based on your roster. I think Hunt probably redeems some value over time, but it will take awhile.Currently debating this trade offer in my 12 team dynasty PPR. I’m being offered K Hunt for my 2.04. We can start 1qb, 1rb, 1wr, 1te, and 3 Flex. If I were to keep the pick I was looking at drafting Samuel Deebo but I’ve pasted the top remaining players based ADP and if anyone has any advice, I’d be eternally greatfull as I’m struggling to decide
2020 1st, easily.Got
Blount, LeGarrette DET RB
Year 2019 Draft Pick 4.02
Year 2020 Round 1 Draft Pick
Gave
Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.01
Year 2019 Draft Pick 4.11
Not that I want Blount and was deciding between Campbell and Deebo in non-ppr. But you can't pass up 1st round picks. The team I got this from is picking 2nd this year.
A fair take on the values, but it was two trades between three teams. So there isn't actually anyway to take Kerryon and the 20s, per se.Snorkelson said:So net it’s kerryon/2020 1/2020 2 for 1.03/1.04/2.04? I’ll take kerryon and the 2020s.
Yes there is, don’t make any of the trades. What team A gave and received between the two trades was not worth it, in my opinion.A fair take on the values, but it was two trades between three teams. So there isn't actually anyway to take Kerryon and the 20s, per se.
Freeman and the 1st10 team non PPR -
D Freeman and a likely very early 2020 1st rounder
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Fournette and a likely mid to late 2nd in 2020
Really just swapping Fournette for Freeman, and moving up from around 17 to maybe 2 or 3 in next year's draft.
Undoubtedly. Not my intention to beat you up and after this I'll let this thread go back to regular programming, but my only point is that the guy might already have the 1.01 or 1.02 pick. And he might have just given 1.07, 1.08, and a 2nd next year to move it down OUT of said stud range. That's bad ownership.Yea I’m just going to have to disagree on that. This class was seen as lacking in superstar prospects from a ways back. 2020 class has multiple high level players who would have likely been the 1.01 if they had been in this class. Next years 1.01 is going to be enormously value this time next year.
KirkPPR with 1 per 20 return yards
Kirk, 4th and future 4th
Lockett
DamienPPR
1.7, Damien Williams, Darrell Williams, 2020 First
for
1.3, John Ross, Chase Edmunds, 3.2 (26 overall)
12 team 1 pt Ppr
Team A: Kelce, Tyreek Hill
Team B: AJG, Chris Carson, 4.1, Chad Beebe.
12 team PPR
Team A: Evans, Njoku, 3.4
Team B: JuJu, Ito Smith, 2.8, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd.
that last one is ugly to me. I don't see the jump from 1.07 to 1.03 as that significant.PPR
1.7, Damien Williams, Darrell Williams, 2020 First
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1.3, John Ross, Chase Edmunds, 3.2 (26 overall)
Freeman and the pick.10 team non PPR -
D Freeman and a likely very early 2020 1st rounder
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Fournette and a likely mid to late 2nd in 2020
Really just swapping Fournette for Freeman, and moving up from around 17 to maybe 2 or 3 in next year's draft.
What am I missing here? This looks terrible for side getting 1.3. It’s basically 1.3 for 1.7, Damien and future 1?PPR
1.7, Damien Williams, Darrell Williams, 2020 First
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1.3, John Ross, Chase Edmunds, 3.2 (26 overall)
I’m actually the 1.7 side. The team is blowing it up. I had a future 2 in the offer but he opted for the pick this year in the early 3rd. I assume he wants David Montgomery and someone who isn’t going to share as much or lose goal-line with Hyde.What am I missing here? This looks terrible for side getting 1.3. It’s basically 1.3 for 1.7, Damien and future 1?
That team doesn’t appear to know how to blow it up. Especially if that’s his 2020 1. Opting for early third this year is a bad idea as well. Bet the league wasn’t happy about this one.I’m actually the 1.7 side. The team is blowing it up. I had a future 2 in the offer but he opted for the pick this year in the early 3rd. I assume he wants David Montgomery and someone who isn’t going to share as much or lose goal-line with Hyde.
I don’t like Damien myself but liked the value. I’m going to try and sell to the Hyde owner. Williams is on a cheapish 2 year deal and already 27. I think as years go by he’ll be the PPR 12-15 touch guy. If those are 4 catches a game then great. I’ll try to pair him with a WR to get an upgrade in a 2 for 1
1.9/Goedert side.12 tm 0.5 PPR with return yardage start 2-3 rb 2-3 wr 1 te 1 qb
1.5 for 1.9 + Goedert
Robby and Lamar pretty easily for me, but I think more highly of Robby than I believe most do. To me this is Lamar for free, but I get it that I am probably on an island.PPR
Robby Anderson & Lamar Miller for Allen Robinson
Pass the coconut Wilson.Robby and Lamar pretty easily for me, but I think more highly of Robby than I believe most do. To me this is Lamar for free, but I get it that I am probably on an island.
Bell.12 Team PPR 1 QB / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 2 Flex
Team A Gives: L Bell NYJ RB & R Foster Buff WR Team A = Chubb owner and other RB = L Murray
Team B Gives: M Ingram Balt RB & K Hunt Clev RB Team B = Mack, Mixon & Dam Williams RB corp
2020 1st for free!12 team PPR
Team A: Evans, Njoku, 3.4
Team B: JuJu, Ito Smith, 2.8, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd.
A few of these are landslides, with #3 the most egregious.12 team PPR 6pt pass td
1.
Team 1 gave up Gurley, Todd LAR RB; Eifert, Tyler CIN TE
Team 2 gave up Murray, Latavius NOS RB; Howard, O.J. TBB TE; Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.05; Year 2019 Draft Pick 4.06
2.
Team 3 gave up Carr, Derek OAK QB; Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.01
Team 4 gave up Newton, Cam CAR QB; Howard, Jordan PHI RB; Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.06
3.
Team 5 gave up Ballage, Kalen MIA RB; Robinson, Allen CHI WR; Year 2020 Round 1 Draft Pick (early-mid)
Team 6 gave up Williams, Damien KCC RB; Humphries, Adam TEN WR; Year 2020 Round 3 Draft Pick (mid)
4.
Team 7 gave up Bernard, Giovani CIN RB; Hilton, T.Y. IND WR
Team 8 gave up Jackson, Justin LAC RB; Callaway, Antonio CLE WR; Washington, James PIT WR; Year 2020 Round 1 Draft Pick (mid-late)
5.
Team 9 gave up Williams, Damien KCC RB; Baldwin, Doug SEA WR; Sanders, Emmanuel DEN WR; Ebron, Eric IND TE
Team 10 gave up Allen, Keenan LAC WR; Patrick, Tim DEN WR; Uzomah, C.J. CIN TE
I’d take 1.1 and 2.1, but it’s fair.1.1 and 2.1 for 1.3 and 1.4 in a ppr league.
I like the deal for both teams.12 Team PPR 1 QB / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 2 Flex
Team A Gives: L Bell NYJ RB & R Foster Buff WR Team A = Chubb owner and other RB = L Murray
Team B Gives: M Ingram Balt RB & K Hunt Clev RB Team B = Mack, Mixon & Dam Williams RB corp
About how I feel it except I'd have phrased it as the value is on the 1.3/1.4 side but I'd prefer the 1.1/2.1 side.I’d take 1.1 and 2.1, but it’s fair.
I like Montgomery, Jacobs, Sanders, and Harry. I’d gladly take the two that fall over picking one of those guys and someone else at 2.01. Now if I knew Hock was going to be there...I’d take 1.1 and 2.1, but it’s fair.