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On 10/31/2020 at 7:27 PM, DropKick said:

Is it me, or is this Michael Thomas and a million draft picks for Henry?  Seems like a crazy overpay for a single player (injuries happen).

Seems like a very dumb trade for Nantucket.  Too much time at sea?

It looks like an owner trying to win some money before bailing on the league in the offseason. 

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29 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

PPR Zealots

Gave: CEH, J Jefferson

Got: Nick Chubb, McLaurin

I like Jefferson a little more than McLaurin but Chubb a LOT more than CEH.

I think if I woke up to this offer, on either side of it, I would not know what to do. I think I like CEH's future better than Chubb's and roughly the same with JJ v Terry. Age is probably the tiebreaker here. I love all 4 of these players.

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20 hours ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

Just had a trade in .5 PPR, 12 team league:

Joe Mixon

Big Ben

for

2021 1st (non-playoff team most likely 5-6)

Laviska Shenault

Damien Harris

Kirk Cousins

This one is tough. I think the best players in the short term in the deal are Mixon and Ben. I don't know how much longer Ben is going to be able to play. He is still playing well right now. Mixon hasn't been doing that well but the Bengals are throwing so much that Mixon is on pace for 70 targets and 55 receptions which would both be career highs for him.

Its perhaps a lot to pay for Mixon, I think Shenault and Harris were worth 2nd round rookie picks. So a 1st and two 2nd rounders for Mixon and a QB upgrade is how I see this deal. I don't think I would want to pay that much for Mixon but maybe you can afford it and Mixon might improve your line up. Its kind of like 3 nickels for a dime kind of deal but after you fill the extra roster spot with a free agent that side of the deal is fine.

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1 hour ago, Biabreakable said:

This one is tough. I think the best players in the short term in the deal are Mixon and Ben. I don't know how much longer Ben is going to be able to play. He is still playing well right now. Mixon hasn't been doing that well but the Bengals are throwing so much that Mixon is on pace for 70 targets and 55 receptions which would both be career highs for him.

Its perhaps a lot to pay for Mixon, I think Shenault and Harris were worth 2nd round rookie picks. So a 1st and two 2nd rounders for Mixon and a QB upgrade is how I see this deal. I don't think I would want to pay that much for Mixon but maybe you can afford it and Mixon might improve your line up. Its kind of like 3 nickels for a dime kind of deal but after you fill the extra roster spot with a free agent that side of the deal is fine.

Shenault was on my taxi so the roster shook up the same.  I lost Dak and liked Ben more than Captain Kirk.  The 1st sucks to lose but I have CEH/Jefferson from this year's draft and all my picks from next year's so I could afford it.  Probably didn't need a RB but CEH is now dealing with Bell and I just don't like relying on Monty every week.

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2 hours ago, Andy Dufresne said:

PPR Zealots

Gave: CEH, J Jefferson

Got: Nick Chubb, McLaurin

I like Jefferson a little more than McLaurin but Chubb a LOT more than CEH.

About as even as it gets and I think this is one of those deals that are the epitome of personal preference and how you view each guy relative to the consensus.

I prefer the JJ/CEH side but on market value it's probably dead even so couldn't argue against someone preferring the other side.

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22 hours ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

Just had a trade in .5 PPR, 12 team league:

Joe Mixon

Big Ben

for

2021 1st (non-playoff team most likely 5-6)

Laviska Shenault

Damien Harris

Kirk Cousins

I am pretty low on Mixon personally but I still think his market value is a fair bit higher than this.

Then again Shenault/Harris are not guys I'm high on so if those are targets that the person trading for them is high on I guess it could be OK.  I would reject this pretty quickly though where I own Mixon.

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29 minutes ago, FreeBaGeL said:

I am pretty low on Mixon personally but I still think his market value is a fair bit higher than this.

Then again Shenault/Harris are not guys I'm high on so if those are targets that the person trading for them is high on I guess it could be OK.  I would reject this pretty quickly though where I own Mixon.

The Mixon owner sent it to me for Jonathan Taylor in the same deal and I turned it down because JT is injured and there is so much of a time share there.  Said I'd do it for Mixon and he sent it over.

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14 hours ago, cloppbeast said:

Give: Drake, Edmonds, and Thielen

Get: late 1st, late 2nd, and Chark

I don’t understand how some of y’all get these deals done. Like in my rebuild teams when I’m aged out a bit I can barely get 1st round value for 27 year olds, nevermind 30 year old WRs and 28 year old RBs. And on top of the 1st you get a young possible stud as well? Holy jeez 

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11 hours ago, Zyphros said:

I don’t understand how some of y’all get these deals done. Like in my rebuild teams when I’m aged out a bit I can barely get 1st round value for 27 year olds, nevermind 30 year old WRs and 28 year old RBs. And on top of the 1st you get a young possible stud as well? Holy jeez 

I agree that this seems like a lot for Drake who might not have a job next year and Thielen who doesn't look like the best WR on his team.  It is amazing to see the differences in leagues.  We haven't had any older players sold yet as this is only our 2nd year but I'm curious how that breaks down in my league.

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13 hours ago, Zyphros said:

I don’t understand how some of y’all get these deals done. Like in my rebuild teams when I’m aged out a bit I can barely get 1st round value for 27 year olds, nevermind 30 year old WRs and 28 year old RBs. And on top of the 1st you get a young possible stud as well? Holy jeez 

I didn't really get the deal done. He started the conversation. That's the only way I think you get full value these guys. 

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1 hour ago, Zyphros said:

FFPC

I got: Adam Thielen

I gave up: Michael Gallup and Preston Williams

I betrayed you Unicorn, I'm sorry

Good trade.

1 hour ago, DexterDew said:

12 team ppr, qrrwwtffdk

Gave Goedert and 2021 3rd

Got 2021 1st

Reasoning: have Fant/Ebron/Everett, not a playoff team 3-5 (but getting closer) and want an extra first next year. Other team is borderline playoff team.

Good trade.

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Made a couple of trades right before Last Sundays games.  Two different leagues;  both ppr 1QB

Me/Contender    Gave:  Zeke

                               Got:  Derrick Henry   from non playoff team

 

Me/possible playoff team    Gave:  Deebo, Cam, 2022 4th x2

                                                    Got:   Cooks, Gronk, 2022 3rd

was attempting a larger trade but didn't happen.  not sure how I feel about the second trade.

 

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9 hours ago, Travieso said:

Made a couple of trades right before Last Sundays games.  Two different leagues;  both ppr 1QB

Me/Contender    Gave:  Zeke

                               Got:  Derrick Henry   from non playoff team

 

Me/possible playoff team    Gave:  Deebo, Cam, 2022 4th x2

                                                    Got:   Cooks, Gronk, 2022 3rd

was attempting a larger trade but didn't happen.  not sure how I feel about the second trade.

 

Picks are a wash. Deebo >> Cooks & Gronk

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12 team Superflex PPR TE Premium

My team is in 5th but I am very weak at QB with only Matt Ryan, Darnold, Fitzpatrick and Rypien.

 

I gave:  Zeke and a 2022 2nd

I got: Swift and a (likely top 5 or better) 2021 1st 

Not convinced Zeke and Swift's value is all that different now to end of year, so hoping Swift keeps progressing and this 1st lets me hopefully target a QB in next year's draft.

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2 hours ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Dynasty PPR, superflex

I gave: Tonyan

i rec’d: Curtis Samuel

I picked up Tonyan for $10/500 FAAB

Team getting him just lost Kittle, had 3 other hurt TEs.

I’ve got too many TEs, so kinda psyched to get Samuel so affordaby. 

I picked Samuel up for free 1.5 weeks ago off wire.

i would happily trade him for Tonyan. I think Tonyan has a better shot to pan out. 

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25 minutes ago, battlestar said:

12 team Superflex PPR TE Premium

My team is in 5th but I am very weak at QB with only Matt Ryan, Darnold, Fitzpatrick and Rypien.

I gave:  Zeke and a 2022 2nd

I got: Swift and a (likely top 5 or better) 2021 1st 

Not convinced Zeke and Swift's value is all that different now to end of year, so hoping Swift keeps progressing and this 1st lets me hopefully target a QB in next year's draft.

I think a lot of owners would take Zeke here, but I like your side, especially in SF.

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2 hours ago, smbkrypt24 said:

I picked Samuel up for free 1.5 weeks ago off wire.

i would happily trade him for Tonyan. I think Tonyan has a better shot to pan out. 

He’s been a free agent in exactly none of my leagues. I wish I could have had him for nothing. 

oh, wait - I paid $10 FAAB for Tonyan & have 5 TE, so I basically did. 

not sure what your point here is or why you thought it contributed to a discussion? 

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39 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

He’s been a free agent in exactly none of my leagues. I wish I could have had him for nothing. 

oh, wait - I paid $10 FAAB for Tonyan & have 5 TE, so I basically did. 

not sure what your point here is or why you thought it contributed to a discussion? 

I provided the value of Samuel in my league and that I prefer Tonyan to Samuel.  

You upset I didn't praise you for your trade and tell you how good you did?  Are points you don't agree with not seen as something that could contribute to a discussion?  

 

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20 hours ago, Travieso said:

Me/possible playoff team    Gave:  Deebo, Cam, 2022 4th x2

                                                    Got:   Cooks, Gronk, 2022 3rd

was attempting a larger trade but didn't happen.  not sure how I feel about the second trade.

Considering how much they score in this league, the DST upgrade was a big part of the deal for you, IMO. The gap between TB and WAS is equivalent to the gap between RB6 and RB20. I like the other side in a vacuum, but thought it was fair. You improved your 2020 chances.

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1 hour ago, smbkrypt24 said:

I provided the value of Samuel in my league and that I prefer Tonyan to Samuel.  
 

The value of Samuel in your league is irrelevant  to the value of Samuel in my league.

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You upset I didn't praise you for your trade and tell you how good you did?  Are points you don't agree with not seen as something that could contribute to a discussion?  

 

don’t expect praise at all. I posted a trade that was made per this topic you came in and crapped all over it for no apparent reason. Not upset at all. I just think you’re a troll. This response by you validated that completely. Have a nice day.

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Just now, Hot Sauce Guy said:

value of Samuel in your league is a relevant

don’t expect praise at all. I posted a trade that was made for this topic you came in and crapped all over it for no apparent reason. Have a nice day.

You come off upset.

I offered my opinion and value of Samuel in my league. I understand our leagues are not the same and Samuel's value will differ league to league.  

 

If you call that crapping, I would hate for someone to actually say something to intentionally set you off.  You are sensitive on this and not sure how this touched a nerve.  It was a comment about a trade since I recently acquired one of the players involved I provided feedback.

 If you don't want anyone to comment on your trades maybe make a comment below the trade....Something like "hey if you don't agree with my player valuation don't comment because I will be pissy and tell you your comment doesn't contribute to a discussion."

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15 minutes ago, smbkrypt24 said:

You come off upset.

not in the slightest. 

your league & what players are FAs is completely irrelevant. Your feedback on my trade was unnecessarily insulting & now you sound more and more like a troll who got caught trolling, contributing noting to the value of this topic. 
 

muting you now. have fun trolling into the void. 

 

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7 hours ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Dynasty PPR, superflex

I gave: Tonyan

i rec’d: Curtis Samuel

I picked up Tonyan for $10/500 FAAB

Team getting him just lost Kittle, had 3 other hurt TEs.

I’ve got too many TEs, so kinda psyched to get Samuel so affordaby. 

I'll take the Tonyan side myself.

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14 hours ago, FreshiZ said:

I'll take the Tonyan side myself.

Fair enough. I’m not sure what the GB QB situation looks like long term & I have 3 star table TEs this year & 5 next (when Uzomah & Ertz are back) 

last night it was TEBC, with 3 tight ends getting work, and not Tonyan catching the TD. 

But you're entitled to your opinion. 

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3 hours ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Fair enough. I’m not sure what the GB QB situation looks like long term & I have 3 star table TEs this year & 5 next (when Uzomah & Ertz are back) 

last night it was TEBC, with 3 tight ends getting work, and not Tonyan catching the TD. 

But you're entitled to your opinion. 

I don't think anything any of these folks have said about your trade were out of line.  Here is why... your valuation of Tonyan changed because you have a stable of TE's, but that never means you should accept less than value for the player.  That is what people are stating to you.  The previous guy you jumped all over said, "Samuel was a free agent in his league and Tonyan was not" - he would gladly take Tonyan for Samuel.  That is a trade evaluation.

Due to the limited amount of "great" TE's (not saying Tonyan is great) - TE production is at a premium.  At one point during the season, Tonyan provided GREAT production, which should increase his ceiling some.  Partner the situation he is in (limited amount of WR production outside of Adams) and the couple games he went off - some people would not want another WR for a potentially lucrative TE setup.  

You having a slew of TE's, doesn't necessarily change the value of another TE.  Not trying to troll or make you feel a certain way, but can absolutely see valid points from those criticizing your trade...  If you believe Tonyan will not be the recipient of a starting job in a few years, while GB drafts a new TE - that is your perogative.  I have yet to see GB spend any draft capital on ANY starting offensive skill players recently and doubt they will look to fill a viable option at TE - meaning a good couple years from Tonyan.  I will gladly eat my own * * * * if I am wrong though.

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3 hours ago, drewd_21 said:

12tm ppr

Team A: CEH, Diontae Johnson, JuJu, Greenlaw

Team B: Kamara, Boyd, Marquise Brown

Team B for now, but I am shocked to see the number of teams willing to DUMP - Clyde Edwards-Helaire in his rookie year.  

Kamara is just on another level right now and Boyd has been producing well.  

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On 11/5/2020 at 9:51 AM, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Dynasty PPR, superflex

I gave: Tonyan

i rec’d: Curtis Samuel

I picked up Tonyan for $10/500 FAAB

Team getting him just lost Kittle, had 3 other hurt TEs.

I’ve got too many TEs, so kinda psyched to get Samuel so affordaby. 

I'll put my 2 cents in here....I think you got too touchy on the reply from the other dude and he was giving his honest valuation which is fair when you post on here.  He wasn't trolling you so I wouldn't take it to heart but I feel you are both correct. 

Tonyan cost you nothing, was never going to play for you, he doesn't really hold much trade value (got traded for a 4th in my league), and you value Samuel higher.  I'm not really high on him only because of CMC coming back, Teddy likes Anderson, and Moore might be a little more talented but I totally understand the argument in the other direction & Curtis has versatile talent but TEs are harder to come by and he has scored some TDs but GB doesn't use the TE much at all.

I think it was a decent trade for you, with your roster makeup, if you like Samuel.  I think a lot of teams would view it differently and would be right to do so as well.  Worked out for both parties so good trade that doesn't move the needle a ton.

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