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12 team Superflex PPR TE Premium

My team is in 5th but I am very weak at QB with only Matt Ryan, Darnold, Fitzpatrick and Rypien.

 

I gave:  Zeke and a 2022 2nd

I got: Swift and a (likely top 5 or better) 2021 1st 

Not convinced Zeke and Swift's value is all that different now to end of year, so hoping Swift keeps progressing and this 1st lets me hopefully target a QB in next year's draft.

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2 hours ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Dynasty PPR, superflex

I gave: Tonyan

i rec’d: Curtis Samuel

I picked up Tonyan for $10/500 FAAB

Team getting him just lost Kittle, had 3 other hurt TEs.

I’ve got too many TEs, so kinda psyched to get Samuel so affordaby. 

I picked Samuel up for free 1.5 weeks ago off wire.

i would happily trade him for Tonyan. I think Tonyan has a better shot to pan out. 

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25 minutes ago, battlestar said:

12 team Superflex PPR TE Premium

My team is in 5th but I am very weak at QB with only Matt Ryan, Darnold, Fitzpatrick and Rypien.

I gave:  Zeke and a 2022 2nd

I got: Swift and a (likely top 5 or better) 2021 1st 

Not convinced Zeke and Swift's value is all that different now to end of year, so hoping Swift keeps progressing and this 1st lets me hopefully target a QB in next year's draft.

I think a lot of owners would take Zeke here, but I like your side, especially in SF.

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2 hours ago, smbkrypt24 said:

I picked Samuel up for free 1.5 weeks ago off wire.

i would happily trade him for Tonyan. I think Tonyan has a better shot to pan out. 

He’s been a free agent in exactly none of my leagues. I wish I could have had him for nothing. 

oh, wait - I paid $10 FAAB for Tonyan & have 5 TE, so I basically did. 

not sure what your point here is or why you thought it contributed to a discussion? 

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39 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

He’s been a free agent in exactly none of my leagues. I wish I could have had him for nothing. 

oh, wait - I paid $10 FAAB for Tonyan & have 5 TE, so I basically did. 

not sure what your point here is or why you thought it contributed to a discussion? 

I provided the value of Samuel in my league and that I prefer Tonyan to Samuel.  

You upset I didn't praise you for your trade and tell you how good you did?  Are points you don't agree with not seen as something that could contribute to a discussion?  

 

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20 hours ago, Travieso said:

Me/possible playoff team    Gave:  Deebo, Cam, 2022 4th x2

                                                    Got:   Cooks, Gronk, 2022 3rd

was attempting a larger trade but didn't happen.  not sure how I feel about the second trade.

Considering how much they score in this league, the DST upgrade was a big part of the deal for you, IMO. The gap between TB and WAS is equivalent to the gap between RB6 and RB20. I like the other side in a vacuum, but thought it was fair. You improved your 2020 chances.

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1 hour ago, smbkrypt24 said:

I provided the value of Samuel in my league and that I prefer Tonyan to Samuel.  
 

The value of Samuel in your league is irrelevant  to the value of Samuel in my league.

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You upset I didn't praise you for your trade and tell you how good you did?  Are points you don't agree with not seen as something that could contribute to a discussion?  

 

don’t expect praise at all. I posted a trade that was made per this topic you came in and crapped all over it for no apparent reason. Not upset at all. I just think you’re a troll. This response by you validated that completely. Have a nice day.

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Just now, Hot Sauce Guy said:

value of Samuel in your league is a relevant

don’t expect praise at all. I posted a trade that was made for this topic you came in and crapped all over it for no apparent reason. Have a nice day.

You come off upset.

I offered my opinion and value of Samuel in my league. I understand our leagues are not the same and Samuel's value will differ league to league.  

 

If you call that crapping, I would hate for someone to actually say something to intentionally set you off.  You are sensitive on this and not sure how this touched a nerve.  It was a comment about a trade since I recently acquired one of the players involved I provided feedback.

 If you don't want anyone to comment on your trades maybe make a comment below the trade....Something like "hey if you don't agree with my player valuation don't comment because I will be pissy and tell you your comment doesn't contribute to a discussion."

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15 minutes ago, smbkrypt24 said:

You come off upset.

not in the slightest. 

your league & what players are FAs is completely irrelevant. Your feedback on my trade was unnecessarily insulting & now you sound more and more like a troll who got caught trolling, contributing noting to the value of this topic. 
 

muting you now. have fun trolling into the void. 

 

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7 hours ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Dynasty PPR, superflex

I gave: Tonyan

i rec’d: Curtis Samuel

I picked up Tonyan for $10/500 FAAB

Team getting him just lost Kittle, had 3 other hurt TEs.

I’ve got too many TEs, so kinda psyched to get Samuel so affordaby. 

I'll take the Tonyan side myself.

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14 hours ago, FreshiZ said:

I'll take the Tonyan side myself.

Fair enough. I’m not sure what the GB QB situation looks like long term & I have 3 star table TEs this year & 5 next (when Uzomah & Ertz are back) 

last night it was TEBC, with 3 tight ends getting work, and not Tonyan catching the TD. 

But you're entitled to your opinion. 

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3 hours ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Fair enough. I’m not sure what the GB QB situation looks like long term & I have 3 star table TEs this year & 5 next (when Uzomah & Ertz are back) 

last night it was TEBC, with 3 tight ends getting work, and not Tonyan catching the TD. 

But you're entitled to your opinion. 

I don't think anything any of these folks have said about your trade were out of line.  Here is why... your valuation of Tonyan changed because you have a stable of TE's, but that never means you should accept less than value for the player.  That is what people are stating to you.  The previous guy you jumped all over said, "Samuel was a free agent in his league and Tonyan was not" - he would gladly take Tonyan for Samuel.  That is a trade evaluation.

Due to the limited amount of "great" TE's (not saying Tonyan is great) - TE production is at a premium.  At one point during the season, Tonyan provided GREAT production, which should increase his ceiling some.  Partner the situation he is in (limited amount of WR production outside of Adams) and the couple games he went off - some people would not want another WR for a potentially lucrative TE setup.  

You having a slew of TE's, doesn't necessarily change the value of another TE.  Not trying to troll or make you feel a certain way, but can absolutely see valid points from those criticizing your trade...  If you believe Tonyan will not be the recipient of a starting job in a few years, while GB drafts a new TE - that is your perogative.  I have yet to see GB spend any draft capital on ANY starting offensive skill players recently and doubt they will look to fill a viable option at TE - meaning a good couple years from Tonyan.  I will gladly eat my own * * * * if I am wrong though.

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3 hours ago, drewd_21 said:

12tm ppr

Team A: CEH, Diontae Johnson, JuJu, Greenlaw

Team B: Kamara, Boyd, Marquise Brown

Team B for now, but I am shocked to see the number of teams willing to DUMP - Clyde Edwards-Helaire in his rookie year.  

Kamara is just on another level right now and Boyd has been producing well.  

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On 11/5/2020 at 9:51 AM, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Dynasty PPR, superflex

I gave: Tonyan

i rec’d: Curtis Samuel

I picked up Tonyan for $10/500 FAAB

Team getting him just lost Kittle, had 3 other hurt TEs.

I’ve got too many TEs, so kinda psyched to get Samuel so affordaby. 

I'll put my 2 cents in here....I think you got too touchy on the reply from the other dude and he was giving his honest valuation which is fair when you post on here.  He wasn't trolling you so I wouldn't take it to heart but I feel you are both correct. 

Tonyan cost you nothing, was never going to play for you, he doesn't really hold much trade value (got traded for a 4th in my league), and you value Samuel higher.  I'm not really high on him only because of CMC coming back, Teddy likes Anderson, and Moore might be a little more talented but I totally understand the argument in the other direction & Curtis has versatile talent but TEs are harder to come by and he has scored some TDs but GB doesn't use the TE much at all.

I think it was a decent trade for you, with your roster makeup, if you like Samuel.  I think a lot of teams would view it differently and would be right to do so as well.  Worked out for both parties so good trade that doesn't move the needle a ton.

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3 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Gave: 2021 3rd

Got: Le'Veon Bell

Why not? He's gotta be good for at least a fill-in for the next couple years.

Depends on the third and your positioning now. I wouldn't necessarily, but why not? Ballers gonna ball sometimes...traders need a trade:shrug:

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45 minutes ago, BearsFan4Life said:

14 team .. No PPR

Gave: Lock, Akers, Deejay Dallas, very late 2nd Round Pick

Got: Goff, Mike Williams

Need to free up a roster spot to get CMC of IR. Have 5 RBs ahead of Akers.

Oof, you must be really thin at WR. I think you should have tried to hold onto your 2nd.

 

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8 minutes ago, FreshiZ said:

Oof, you must be really thin at WR. I think you should have tried to hold onto your 2nd.

 

I still have another 2nd Rounder. I just needed to free up a spot for CMC is all. My team is deep. 7-1 and tied for first. Start 5 flex basically. If you start 2 or 3 RB you have to start a TE.

QB: Mahomes, Goff, KAllen

RB: CMC, Henry, Mixon, Conner, Hunt, MDavis, Bernard, Snell

WR: Nuk, Godwin, DJMoore, Sutton, MWilliams

TE: Kelce, Goedart

 

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8 minutes ago, BearsFan4Life said:

I still have another 2nd Rounder. I just needed to free up a spot for CMC is all. My team is deep. 7-1 and tied for first. Start 5 flex basically. If you start 2 or 3 RB you have to start a TE.

QB: Mahomes, Goff, KAllen

RB: CMC, Henry, Mixon, Conner, Hunt, MDavis, Bernard, Snell

WR: Nuk, Godwin, DJMoore, Sutton, MWilliams

TE: Kelce, Goedart

 

I think it could be argued Lock = Goff but lets say you love Goff. Lock + 2nd for Goff and then two young prospects (one with good draft capital) on 2 run heavy offenses for Mike.

But sometimes you just can't find a partner, just saying in a vacuum it looks pretty iffy. 

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1 hour ago, Cjw_55106 said:

What am I missing here? Seems very lopsided. 
 

A gave up Cooper, Amari DAL WR; Year 2021 Round 1 Draft Pick 

B gave up Lockett, Tyler SEA WR; Year 2021 Round 4 Draft Pick

I like Team B's side (the side getting Cooper and the first) and think it's sort of a no-brainer with the Round 1 pick. Is this a win-now situation for Team A? If so, I guess I can see it. But I'd have to squint really hard.

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7 hours ago, TVT 0 N S T A said:

I don't think anything any of these folks have said about your trade were out of line.  Here is why... your valuation of Tonyan changed because you have a stable of TE's, but that never means you should accept less than value for the player.  That is what people are stating to you.  The previous guy you jumped all over said, "Samuel was a free agent in his league and Tonyan was not" - he would gladly take Tonyan for Samuel.  That is a trade evaluation.

Due to the limited amount of "great" TE's (not saying Tonyan is great) - TE production is at a premium.  At one point during the season, Tonyan provided GREAT production, which should increase his ceiling some.  Partner the situation he is in (limited amount of WR production outside of Adams) and the couple games he went off - some people would not want another WR for a potentially lucrative TE setup.  

You having a slew of TE's, doesn't necessarily change the value of another TE.  Not trying to troll or make you feel a certain way, but can absolutely see valid points from those criticizing your trade...  If you believe Tonyan will not be the recipient of a starting job in a few years, while GB drafts a new TE - that is your perogative.  I have yet to see GB spend any draft capital on ANY starting offensive skill players recently and doubt they will look to fill a viable option at TE - meaning a good couple years from Tonyan.  I will gladly eat my own * * * * if I am wrong though.

I only took issue with one person who was unnecessarily rude in expressing their opinion about the deal. Smugly telling someone X player was a FA in their league is both irrelevant and insulting. I found it unnecessary and said as much. 

I took no issue with anything anyone else said.

As for Tonyan’s value and whether I sold him light, I realize having a glut of TEs doesn’t devalue them.

I also realize that no other team needed a TE. There’s TGonz, and then there’s a slew of 2-3 tier guys. Then there’s inconsistent players like Tonyan. 

Also relevant is that I put Tonyan on the block 3 weeks ago and had no takers until team Kittle reached out.

I had a choice of 4-5 guys. I happen to like Samuel. He’s 24, he’s talented & I expect he’ll have a starting job somewhere in the future. I was happy to acquire that for a player who won’t see the field for me since he’s my TE3, soon to be TE5. 

It didn’t seem like I needed to squeeze every penny of value since I got a player I liked. And honestly I think all y’all are overvaluing Tonyan. He’s a default target because Lizard has been out and MVS has been awful. And even then he’s been up & down. Last night in a game where it seemed like ARod threw 5,000 yards and 37 TDs, Tonyan somehow had a weak performance, and a TE did catch a TD...just not him. 

So yeah - like I said, you’re entitled to your opinion about the deal. We can discuss & respectfully disagree. 

But we can be polite & civilized when we do so. :hifive:

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6 hours ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

I'll put my 2 cents in here....I think you got too touchy on the reply from the other dude and he was giving his honest valuation which is fair when you post on here.  He wasn't trolling you so I wouldn't take it to heart but I feel you are both correct. 
 

didn’t care for the crack about Samuel being a FA. Called it like I saw it. It was irrelevant and came off as an insult. As though I was stupid to deal for a player who’s a FA in his league. 

I believe I reacted appropriately to that. . 

6 hours ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

 

Tonyan cost you nothing, was never going to play for you, he doesn't really hold much trade value (got traded for a 4th in my league), and you value Samuel higher.  I'm not really high on him only because of CMC coming back, Teddy likes Anderson, and Moore might be a little more talented but I totally understand the argument in the other direction & Curtis has versatile talent but TEs are harder to come by and he has scored some TDs but GB doesn't use the TE much at all.

I think it was a decent trade for you, with your roster makeup, if you like Samuel.  I think a lot of teams would view it differently and would be right to do so as well.  Worked out for both parties so good trade that doesn't move the needle a ton.

Exactly. This wasn’t a blockbuster. We swapped mediocre players. 

people talking up Tonyan like he’s the next elite TE sound a little bit delusional to me, but again, each to their own. 

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15 hours ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

This is Kelce by a huge margin.  Cooper/Engram are bench fodder at this point unless you are hurting at TE.

This is a dynasty league, keep in mind.  Kelce is I think 5/6 years older than Engram.  Cooper is a WR1/2 with Dak. 

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On 11/5/2020 at 12:59 PM, matttyl said:

rebuilding team A trades away Travis Kelce

likely playoff bound team B trades away Amari Cooper and Evan Engram

I get it, but would favor Kelce and be looking for a different package to let him go. Engram's value has completely tanked. Cooper's has as well with Dak out but mostly Lamb being drafted.

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3 hours ago, matttyl said:

This is a dynasty league, keep in mind.  Kelce is I think 5/6 years older than Engram.  Cooper is a WR1/2 with Dak. 

Except Dak is hurt and when (if) he returns to form, Cooper could be gone.  Too many variables for me to give up Kelce.

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1 hour ago, Birdie048 said:

12 Team PPR   ... nothing major

I gave ATL RB Brian Hill

I got KC WR Mercole Hardman

 

Great deal if KC continues to use Hardman as they did in the last game. But, just when I think that will happen, Robinson or Watkins puts up numbers and Hardman does next to nothing.  Hill is worth the risk that things have changed in KC imo.

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18 hours ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

didn’t care for the crack about Samuel being a FA. Called it like I saw it. It was irrelevant and came off as an insult. As though I was stupid to deal for a player who’s a FA in his league. 

I believe I reacted appropriately to that. .

No. You didn't. You got sore over an honest assessment of your trades and took it out on the guy, and now you're trying to justify it. It's pertinent that the guy is on the wire, for sure. There was nothing nasty about his post.

This criticism is what we're here for. Don't post if you don't want it. I've gotten some criticism against my deals and I protested the substantive arguments even if the tone was off, which it really hasn't been.

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59 minutes ago, rockaction said:

No. You didn't. You got sore over an honest assessment of your trades and took it out on the guy, and now you're trying to justify it. It's pertinent that the guy is on the wire, for sure. There was nothing nasty about his post.

He wasn't on the wire in my league. So how is it pertinent to my trade in my league? It's not. It's just a snarky response that I find unecessary. 

59 minutes ago, rockaction said:

This criticism is what we're here for. Don't post if you don't want it. I've gotten some criticism against my deals and I protested the substantive arguments even if the tone was off, which it really hasn't been.

I've received plenty of criticism. So long as it comes respectfully I am fine with it. This one didn't, and it wasn't subtle. And his follow-up response was proof of his initial intentions. 

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Just now, DropKick said:

Sorry.  Couldn't resist.

All good. I genuinely do not care other than believing one can post criticism constructively.  If the person didn't like my trade, then they could have said as much rather than the implication that I was stupid for dealing for someone who's on their WW. That makes no sense in the context of my trade, because my league, scoring & roster sizes are not the same as his league, scoring or roster sizes. Who cares who's on who's WW? Tonyan is on the WW in several leagues as well. Doesn't make either of them worthless.

Also, no need to apologize. It was good for a chuckle. 

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32 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

All good. I genuinely do not care other than believing one can post criticism constructively.  If the person didn't like my trade, then they could have said as much rather than the implication that I was stupid for dealing for someone who's on their WW. That makes no sense in the context of my trade, because my league, scoring & roster sizes are not the same as his league, scoring or roster sizes. Who cares who's on who's WW? Tonyan is on the WW in several leagues as well. Doesn't make either of them worthless.

Also, no need to apologize. It was good for a chuckle. 

Multiple posters are coming in here to say you are in the wrong and again and again you decide to say I implied you were stupid.  

What really happened was you overreacted and were out of line.  You keep digging in to your position calling me a troll and trying to say i I was overly critical.  That is not reality.  I avoided responding, but you keep responding about me that I was not responding in a constructive way.  If multiple posters were to tell me I reacted wrong I would retract and apologize, not dig in and keep defending a position that is wrong.  

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33 minutes ago, Cjw_55106 said:

12 team ppr


Gave Hurst

Received Scantling and a 2021 second

 

Not a big fan of MVS, but I think Hurst for a second is fair. 

I would give up Hurst for a 2nd at this point too. I was hopeful he would see a lot of targets and develop, but that hasn't happened so far.

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3 hours ago, smbkrypt24 said:

and again you decide to say I implied you were stupid.  

Because that’s the only thing one could possibly infer from your “he was a FA in my league” crack since it was otherwise irrelevant.. Along with your subsequent “you mad bro” type response it became more obvious. 

Maybe just admit that was an unnecessary jab that didn’t contribute to the topic. 

Or don’t. I really don’t care. Have a nice day. 

 

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