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46 minutes ago, Helaire-ious said:

PPR

Team A gave Mooney

Team B Gave Gallup

Dallas Offense > Chicago Offense since the beginning of time and hasn't changed. Otherwise I wouldn't give up Mooney for Gallup unless there were other pieces involved. But I wouldn't move Gallup for Mooney so I guess it depends on which one I own already (zero in RL). Good chance I'd throw up in my mouth (that's twice today) if I had to start either one. 

More serious answer they are both WR3 types that are more or less interchangeable along with a *lot* of other WRs out there. So for me it really comes down to which is more marketable and/or packageable (did I make that word up?). 

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2 hours ago, menobrown said:

Big one just went down, FFPC format:

Team A(the defending champ) gave: Kamara

Team B gave: 1.2, 1.5 and Ruggs.

Interesting. Seems like he could have gotten more. But he’s probably looking ahead to Brees retiring and getting off Kamara while he still can.

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On 4/30/2020 at 12:42 AM, doowain said:

:shrug:

I conceded as much in my original post. 

I'll put a pin in this post to look back on in a year. 

@Milkman

So before Dak’s injury. 
 

Arob 27yo 18.32 ppg

Lamb 21 18.12 ppg

Not bad for the “WR3” in that offense. 

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On 1/9/2021 at 2:28 PM, menobrown said:

Big one just went down, FFPC format:

Team A(the defending champ) gave: Kamara

Team B gave: 1.2, 1.5 and Ruggs.

Picks all day long. Kamara is a fantastic sell right now for top teams before his value starts tanking. 

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2 hours ago, Zyphros said:

Picks all day long. Kamara is a fantastic sell right now for top teams before his value starts tanking. 

I agree with picks side, not necessarily that Kamara is a sell right now but in a vacuum I do like the picks side.

In a non vacuum look at the trade I loved it for the team that dealt Kamara, pretty down on it for the team that got him.

The team that traded away Kamara had him, Barkley, Sanders and James Robinson at RB and already won the league last year and won it kind of convincingly.  Barkley's return will likely make up for much of the loss of Kamara,  meanwhile he dealt his oldest RB to get two prime pieces of youth plus Ruggs. This is exactly how teams that are at the top of their leagues stay on top of their leagues for a long time. It's reloading so you never have to rebuild.

The team that got Kamara got a great player of course and he might be the push they need to be competitive but giving up two prime pieces of youth to get what will be a 26 year old RB on his second contract when your team was not a playoff team last year and on paper you still don't project as a 3 team in the league is not something I would ever be in favor of doing. If I ever made a deal like this to get Kamara giving up those picks I'd have to think he's the guy that gets me over the top, not seeing it here.

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Another Kamara deal.  FFPC

Kamara

For

Amari Cooper, Joe Burrow, pick 14, pick 18, pick 24, future 1st  (the future 1st belongs to a team with a good chance at making the playoffs)

Team dealing away Kamara is looking to the future

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3 hours ago, ghostguy123 said:

FFPC

Myles Gaskin for a 2022 2nd rounder

I would be cashing out on Gaskin now as well. I feel like there’s a good chance Aaron Jones winds up there, and even if not I think the chances are good they draft a back high. Would have preferred a 2021 2nd, but this is fine too. 

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19 hours ago, ghostguy123 said:

Another Kamara deal.  FFPC

Kamara

For

Amari Cooper, Joe Burrow, pick 14, pick 18, pick 24, future 1st  (the future 1st belongs to a team with a good chance at making the playoffs)

Team dealing away Kamara is looking to the future

In FFPC in particular if I'm trading Kamara the best piece I get back can't be Amari Cooper.

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2 hours ago, Twenty-Four Eighty-Four said:

12 Team Superflex PPR:

Team Gave: Ruggs, 2021 Pick 1.11, and 2022 (should be) Late 1st.

Got: Anthony McFarland, 2021 Pick 1.04.

Before I comment are there 4 players you absolutely love in this draft?  Are you desperate for a QB because it is Super-flex?

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40 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Seems like a bit too much to give up for...Jevonte Williams? Devonta Smith?

Oh, superflex. Well then...maybe.

 

42 minutes ago, Boston said:

Before I comment are there 4 players you absolutely love in this draft?  Are you desperate for a QB because it is Super-flex?

 

I have the 1.01 and will be taking Trevor Lawrence. I'm still hoping to grab one of Smith, Chase, Etienne, or Harris if possible. Being Superflex, one of those guys will be available at 1.04. I still have 3 firsts for 2022 if that matters at all. I understand it could be a bit of an overpay though.

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1 hour ago, Twenty-Four Eighty-Four said:

 

 

I have the 1.01 and will be taking Trevor Lawrence. I'm still hoping to grab one of Smith, Chase, Etienne, or Harris if possible. Being Superflex, one of those guys will be available at 1.04. I still have 3 firsts for 2022 if that matters at all. I understand it could be a bit of an overpay though.

I get it now...I'm usually not a fan of trading a future #1 too early because you never know what will happen but you are stocked so you can...now that I look at the whole picture I really like this deal a lot...adding one of those guys to Lawrence is a very nice haul and it's obvious you are dealing from strength (i.e. extra assets) so you are accomplishing this without touching your core...nice job! 

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6 minutes ago, Boston said:

I get it now...I'm usually not a fan of trading a future #1 too early because you never know what will happen but you are stocked so you can...now that I look at the whole picture I really like this deal a lot...adding one of those guys to Lawrence is a very nice haul and it's obvious you are dealing from strength (i.e. extra assets) so you are accomplishing this without touching your core...nice job! 

Thanks! I feel good about it, being able to add Lawrence with Dak, and add one of Harris, Etienne, Smith or Chase to go along with Barkley, Dobbins, Dillon, Penny, Chark, Jeudy, Shenault, Reagor, and Kittle among others. I know all aren't studs but guys that have potential to be contributors soon.

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31 minutes ago, Twenty-Four Eighty-Four said:

Thanks! I feel good about it, being able to add Lawrence with Dak, and add one of Harris, Etienne, Smith or Chase to go along with Barkley, Dobbins, Dillon, Penny, Chark, Jeudy, Shenault, Reagor, and Kittle among others. I know all aren't studs but guys that have potential to be contributors soon.

Trading 3 decent players for the best 1 is a savvy long term move. Sounds like you're in of a bit of a roster crunch too, so this is a win.

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Has anyone seen Hunt moved lately in a PPR dynasty league? In one of my leagues where I own Chubb, I've been offered Hunt for my 1.11 rookie pick. This seems like pretty solid value to me, regardless of Chubb being on my roster. Just curious if anyone can share recent trades involving Hunt to give me an idea of his value right now. Wouldn't most smash accept that offer? 

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16 minutes ago, ffmail4me said:

Has anyone seen Hunt moved lately in a PPR dynasty league? In one of my leagues where I own Chubb, I've been offered Hunt for my 1.11 rookie pick. This seems like pretty solid value to me, regardless of Chubb being on my roster. Just curious if anyone can share recent trades involving Hunt to give me an idea of his value right now. Wouldn't most smash accept that offer? 

Kareem Hunt and a late 2021 3rd
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1.10

Happened in a league I'm in.

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2 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Watching Hunt's production/use tail off this season, trading a first for him feels like a trap.

Maybe but I think his trade value is greater than the 1.11 so I made the trade. Wouldn't be against trading him in a package deal to get a RB I like even better ;) ABC right? 

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46 minutes ago, ffmail4me said:

Has anyone seen Hunt moved lately in a PPR dynasty league? In one of my leagues where I own Chubb, I've been offered Hunt for my 1.11 rookie pick. This seems like pretty solid value to me, regardless of Chubb being on my roster. Just curious if anyone can share recent trades involving Hunt to give me an idea of his value right now. Wouldn't most smash accept that offer? 

I think 1.11 is about right and I had Chubb I know for sure I'd pay it.

But I've not seen him traded anywhere lately but here are some failed trades for him.

I know values constantly change but around week 11 I was offered Mike Evans for him and rejected it, but fwiw I thought value was on Evans side but team/league makeup were factors.

Literally dealing the Steeler's game this week when Hunt scored his second TD I  tried to srike while iron was hot and offered him to the Chubb owner along with Brady and 3.1 for CEH. I got one of those "not even close" responses, which may be right, I don't know, hard to know how people value players right now and I know some are pretty down on CEH.

But I think owning the duo is outstanding and I'd pay 1.11 if I was you and you were not negatively impacted by adding an extra roster spot.

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3 minutes ago, menobrown said:

offered him to the Chubb owner along with Brady and 3.1 for CEH. I got one of those "not even close" responses, 

I don't think I'd have accepted either but it's not "not close" if you're paying attention to CEH's performance.

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7 hours ago, menobrown said:

I think 1.11 is about right and I had Chubb I know for sure I'd pay it.

But I've not seen him traded anywhere lately but here are some failed trades for him.

I know values constantly change but around week 11 I was offered Mike Evans for him and rejected it, but fwiw I thought value was on Evans side but team/league makeup were factors.

Literally dealing the Steeler's game this week when Hunt scored his second TD I  tried to srike while iron was hot and offered him to the Chubb owner along with Brady and 3.1 for CEH. I got one of those "not even close" responses, which may be right, I don't know, hard to know how people value players right now and I know some are pretty down on CEH.

But I think owning the duo is outstanding and I'd pay 1.11 if I was you and you were not negatively impacted by adding an extra roster spot.

I own CEH in PPR & would have rejected as well. If that is a start 1 QB league, Brady has next to no value IMO. If it's superflex, it might not be that bad of an offer. I have the 1.09 for 2021 & I am not sure Hunt is worth that much. Am I just unrealistic?

On the flip side, I have no idea what other sort of RBs I should expect to get for the 1.09 either

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Hunt is a tough one.  He seems to have very little value but how often do you get a chance to buy a 25 year old that just finished as RB10 and will head into next year with no change in situation?

Even though he trended down a bit throughout the year he was still RB17 from weeks 10-17.  While that's not great (he was lower in PPG) it's still a pretty nice asset to have even if he only repeated that performance.  He's been a mid/low RB2 in PPG in each of the last 2 years.

I do definitely get that some people like to shoot for the moon though and would rather have the pick.

Personally I have way too many shares of him and am going to look to move him alongside a mid/late 1st round pick for an upgrade this year, though it sounds like he may not add much to the trade.

Maybe I'll try and package him with Burrow for a QB upgrade instead.  Seems like Watson might be a nice target.

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14 minutes ago, FreeBaGeL said:

Hunt is a tough one.  He seems to have very little value but how often do you get a chance to buy a 25 year old that just finished as RB10 and will head into next year with no change in situation?

Even though he trended down a bit throughout the year he was still RB17 from weeks 10-17.  While that's not great (he was lower in PPG) it's still a pretty nice asset to have even if he only repeated that performance.  He's been a mid/low RB2 in PPG in each of the last 2 years.

I do definitely get that some people like to shoot for the moon though and would rather have the pick.

Personally I have way too many shares of him and am going to look to move him alongside a mid/late 1st round pick for an upgrade this year, though it sounds like he may not add much to the trade.

Maybe I'll try and package him with Burrow for a QB upgrade instead.  Seems like Watson might be a nice target.

Chubb missed a little time, but even his averages with Chubb playing were flex worthy, not to mention the upside of how well he could do if Chubb was hurt, or who knows maybe Hunt is traded.

Under contract for two more years.  Entering next season at 26.  He probably gets a starter's deal entering age 28 but at 28 maybe you get two good starting years.

All in all I would happily pay a late 1st if I needed RB depth and was competing, and would probably be happy to sell for a 1st if I was in a rebuild.  

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On 1/12/2021 at 4:16 PM, ghostguy123 said:

Another Kamara deal.  FFPC

Kamara

For

Amari Cooper, Joe Burrow, pick 14, pick 18, pick 24, future 1st  (the future 1st belongs to a team with a good chance at making the playoffs)

Team dealing away Kamara is looking to the future

Kamara.

Not hard to find players equivalent to Cooper and Burrow, who is also injured.  And a bunch of lottery tickets that might not yield a difference maker... And you probably have to release players to meet roster limits?  

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14 hours ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

12 team, .5 PPR, and 1 QB...

 

This year's champ gives:

Josh Jacobs, 2022 1st (projected very late again), and 2022 4th

for

Jalen Reagor, 1.6, 1.8, 1.11 and 3.4

 

Thoughts?

The future 1st to me is a wash with pick 11 and the 4th.

So picks 6 and 8 plus Reagor for Jacobs?

Assuming the champ isnt rebuilding and probably has other strong RBs, so doing a value shift type of move.   Seems fair for both in terms of value

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14 hours ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

12 team, .5 PPR, and 1 QB...

 

This year's champ gives:

Josh Jacobs, 2022 1st (projected very late again), and 2022 4th

for

Jalen Reagor, 1.6, 1.8, 1.11 and 3.4

 

Thoughts?

I'm not a Jacobs fan. I'll take Reagor + picks.

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14 hours ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

12 team, .5 PPR, and 1 QB...

 

This year's champ gives:

Josh Jacobs, 2022 1st (projected very late again), and 2022 4th

for

Jalen Reagor, 1.6, 1.8, 1.11 and 3.4

 

Thoughts?

Interesting deal...my guess is since this guy is the champ he has a good amount of talent (i.e. he can afford to move Jacobs) and due to that this is the type of deal that will continue his success as he has a chance to really make his team very deep...I like Jacobs but I don't know how much more upside he has due to Gruden...if I am gonna give up three #1's I would rather use them on another target.

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14 hours ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

12 team, .5 PPR, and 1 QB...

 

This year's champ gives:

Josh Jacobs, 2022 1st (projected very late again), and 2022 4th

for

Jalen Reagor, 1.6, 1.8, 1.11 and 3.4

 

Thoughts?

And deals like this are why he will probably win more championships in the future.

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FFPC

I gave Damien Harris, 2022 2nd
I got 2.04, 2022 3rd

This gives me 1.03, 1.05, 1.09, 2.01, 2.04 and 2.09. I have Robinson, Gibson, Dobbins and I think I like the capital I got in return for Harris as an extra piece to (help) move up to 1.01 or 1.02. Also, cleared a roster spot. 

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