ghostguy123
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Any thoughts on this one?Fun one in FFPC
Deshaun Watson, Amari Cooper, Logan Thomas, pick 7
For
Justin Herbert, Ceedee Lamb, pick 20, pick 29, pick 41
Any thoughts on this one?Fun one in FFPC
Deshaun Watson, Amari Cooper, Logan Thomas, pick 7
For
Justin Herbert, Ceedee Lamb, pick 20, pick 29, pick 41
Fair. Depends on who you like better. Gun to my head I'll take Herbert/Lamb since I don't care much for Cooper.Any thoughts on this one?
The Watson/Cooper vs Herbert/Lamb portion of the trade would slightly go to the Herbert/Lamb side.Any thoughts on this one?
Fair. Depends on who you like better. Gun to my head I'll take Herbert/Lamb since I don't care much for Cooper.
Interesting comparison in perspective here, I think.The Watson/Cooper vs Herbert/Lamb portion of the trade would slightly go to the Herbert/Lamb side.
The Logan Thomas/7 for 20/29/41 is a bigger win for that side then the smaller loss they took on the Herbert/Lamb side.
So I would easily go with the side getting Watson.
There are a lot of people ranking Lamb as a 1st round startup pick already so based on perceived value I would say that side.Any thoughts on this one?
On paper I would prefer Jacobs and the future 1st in half PPR. I haven’t played half PPR but did play no PPR for a long time and RB’s (especially young ones) are gold. Any picks outside of early 1sts and WR’s rarely had much value in those leagues. I also don’t like Reagor much.12 team, .5 PPR, and 1 QB...
This year's champ gives:
Josh Jacobs, 2022 1st (projected very late again), and 2022 4th
for
Jalen Reagor, 1.6, 1.8, 1.11 and 3.4
Thoughts?
You are correct that I have Barkley, Kamara, Mixon, and Montgomery as well as some lower end guys like Gus Edwards, Gio, and Benny Snell so a lot of depth. Our trades can't be finalized until after the SB when the league re-opens so this could be evolving as I also have Kittle & Kelce so he is looking to figure something out to include a TE also.On paper I would prefer Jacobs and the future 1st in half PPR. I haven’t played half PPR but did play no PPR for a long time and RB’s (especially young ones) are gold. Any picks outside of early 1sts and WR’s rarely had much value in those leagues. I also don’t like Reagor much.
In actuality my guess is that Jacobs was probably the ranking champs RB3 or 4 so they are moving a non-core starter for a lot of good chances at rebuilding their depth for the future and some nice trade material. Jacobs owner gets a future 1st which is always good trade fodder, plus even great dynasty teams one season can struggle the next so there is upside there. Probably a good trade for both IMO.
Depends a bit on your IDP scoring, as McQueen is worth a lot more than Walker. That said, this looks like a you might have given up a little more, but if you had to trade under salary cap duress, I'd say you did pretty damn good.This trade was more cap related on my part than anything else. IDP Dynasty salary league. PPR
I gave up Alvin Kamara, George Kittle, Laviska Shenault, and Anthony Walker.
I got Antonio Gibson, Mark Andrews, Brando Aiyuk, and Patrick McQueen.
Like I said mainly cap driven on my part. I was going to be forced to cut a lot of good players to get under the cap for next year, even before the rookie draft. I also have the 3rd pick in the draft and my own late round first. Another factor I considered is even as good as Kamara is, with Taysom Hill at QB, I think Kamara's value diminishes.
I'd take the Herbert/Lamb side, but that's largely b/c I'm very high on Lamb. Seems fair overall.ghostguy123 said:Any thoughts on this one?
I'm not surprised you were turned down at 2.04, as there might be some very nice players available at that pick. So that said, 2.10 isn't a bad decision if you're in rebuild mode, and the top 2 TEs in the draft look like winners.Non-ppr, IDP
Gave: Dallas Goedert
Got: 2.10
I know people won't like this one, but his perceived value isn't close to reality. I offered him to the Eagles fan for a 2.4 and was turned down flat.
I'm in a total teardown and want the flexibility of picks. Now I have four firsts and three seconds.
I think I’d need a late first to consider giving up Goedert. TEs take too long to develop. Why start over? If you drafted him, this is what you’ve been waiting for.I'm not surprised you were turned down at 2.04, as there might be some very nice players available at that pick. So that said, 2.08 isn't a bad decision if you're in rebuild mode, and the top 2 TEs in the draft look like winners.
A lot of other years I'd take Goedert.
Very true, except owning a TE that breaks out is a very nice thing indeed. I've got Hockenson, Kittle, and the 1.06, and I'll be sorely tempted to use that on Pitts if he's available. (Assuming the best RBs are gone, and I'm already stacked at WR.)TEs are fantasy's new kickers. Other than the top two their performance is so random week to week it's not worth worrying about.
What do you consider the 2.10 if not random chance at a starter? As was mentioned earlier I’m not moving Goedert for the 2.10. Not even close. This is a wonderful time of year to poach players like this because people just love draft picks!!TEs are fantasy's new kickers. Other than the top two their performance is so random week to week it's not worth worrying about.
It's a little different in IDP since the 22 picks will include some defensive players (although I'm not sure about that). So the 2.10 has a lot of possibilities.What do you consider the 2.10 if not random chance at a starter? As was mentioned earlier I’m not moving Goedert for the 2.10. Not even close. This is a wonderful time of year to poach players like this because people just love draft picks!!
This belongs in the Assistant Coach Forum.Trade proposal. 12-tm PPR SF.
Team A (High-end contender) receives:
- CeeDee Lamb
- Miles Sanders
- 1.07
Team B (Low-end contender) receives:
- DK Metcalf
- Marquise Brown
- Carson Wentz (Eagles fan, Wentz believer)
- Myles Gaskin
Hope Team B got dinner and some hard drinks tooTrade proposal. 12-tm PPR SF.
Team A (High-end contender) receives:
- CeeDee Lamb
- Miles Sanders
- 1.07
Team B (Low-end contender) receives:
- DK Metcalf
- Marquise Brown
- Carson Wentz (Eagles fan, Wentz believer)
- Myles Gaskin
I guess it all comes down to where you value a guy like Goedert. While this past draft might have seen some names like Gibson and Aiyuk in the 20-24 range it was full of land mines as well, with the likes of Hamler, Edwards, Vaughn, Tyler Johnson, Eno Benjamin, McFarland, Prople-Jones, depending on that site you get your ADP from. IDP format might push a name or two back in the top 22, but doesn’t change my outlook on this trade.It's a little different in IDP since the 22 picks will include some defensive players (although I'm not sure about that). So the 2.10 has a lot of possibilities.
There were three TEs in the top 40 pass catchers in non-ppr this year Kelce, Waller, and Tonyan. The last was on most people's waiver wire to begin the season. (I know, there would have been four if Kittle hadn't been hurt.)
Further, the difference in PPG between #3 Tonyan and #10 Hayden Hurst was not quite 1.8 points. That's not a big difference to me. You may differ, and that's okay.
There were a lot of players with more upside than Goedert that went around the 2.10 mark last year. Your list may vary but I'd rather have a chance at a guy like Justin Herbert, Antonio Gibson, Chase Claypool, Kenneth Murray (LB), and possibly Shenault than sit with an easily replicable player in Goedert.
But the real value is increased flexibility. You're right, people love rookie picks. Which means they're of better use in packages to move up (or down) in the draft. A hypothetical move of 1.8 to 1.5 (or whatever) is typically easier to do with draft picks than players.
Lastly, and this is just my opinion, people projecting Goedert to match the production of peak Ertz have a firm grip on an empty sack.
B looking to stay low end I guess...Trade proposal. 12-tm PPR SF.
Team A (High-end contender) receives:
- CeeDee Lamb
- Miles Sanders
- 1.07
Team B (Low-end contender) receives:
- DK Metcalf
- Marquise Brown
- Carson Wentz (Eagles fan, Wentz believer)
- Myles Gaskin
Team A in a heartbeat, and it isn't even close IMHO.Trade proposal. 12-tm PPR SF.
Team A (High-end contender) receives:
- CeeDee Lamb
- Miles Sanders
- 1.07
Team B (Low-end contender) receives:
- DK Metcalf
- Marquise Brown
- Carson Wentz (Eagles fan, Wentz believer)
- Myles Gaskin
I like Lamb a lot and Herbert will be close enough to Watson that I take that side with those picks for sure. Logan Thomas isn't enough to matter even in TE Premium IMO.ghostguy123 said:Any thoughts on this one?
This is a terrible deal. Like that might have been an ok deal had they not had to give 1.7 also. I'd rage accept this deal as Team A.Trade proposal. 12-tm PPR SF.
Team A (High-end contender) receives:
- CeeDee Lamb
- Miles Sanders
- 1.07
Team B (Low-end contender) receives:
- DK Metcalf
- Marquise Brown
- Carson Wentz (Eagles fan, Wentz believer)
- Myles Gaskin
It’s not like goedart is old. This is his time with ertz likely cut.Non-ppr, IDP
Gave: Dallas Goedert
Got: 2.10
I know people won't like this one, but his perceived value isn't close to reality. I offered him to the Eagles fan for a 2.4 and was turned down flat.
I'm in a total teardown and want the flexibility of picks. Now I have four firsts and three seconds.
Didn't say he was. I just don't expect the offense to funnel though the TE position like it did when Set a was good.It’s not like goedart is old. This is his time with ertz likely cut.
Definitely Julio...not really sure what Team B is trying to accomplish here...if you can get a good return for Julio it is time to move on from him but IMO this isn't a good return...Hilton is the same age as Julio and those two picks are not near the stud area...Julio is aging but he still has some juice left and Team A just got him while working around the edges of his roster...this is a bad deal.12 team Superflex ppr
team a - julio
team b - Hilton, 2.12 and 3.06
In a non superflex league I believe Julio's value is somewhere around 1.12'ish and I'm not sure if that's not being generous. I'm basing that on a trade I saw, trades I tried to do but those were in-season when he was not hurt at the time so if anything is probably less but I don't play superflex so 1.12 in that format might be more like 1.9 in SF.12 team Superflex ppr
team a - julio
team b - Hilton, 2.12 and 3.06
RobinsonJust went down.
Team A gives James Robinson, Avery Williamson, Rashaan Evans, JaMycal Hasty
Team B gives Dallas Goedert, 2021 2.04, 2022 1st (mid likely)
Odds on favorite to make it four straight...Non-PPR IDP
Derrick Henry and Odell Beckham
for
Jonathan Taylor, TJ Watt and 2022 #1 and #2 (the trading owner had the #1 3 years running now)
Henry is obviously great but Beckham has been skating by on reputation for about three years now.Non-PPR IDP
Derrick Henry and Odell Beckham
for
Jonathan Taylor, TJ Watt and 2022 #1 and #2 (the trading owner had the #1 3 years running now)
That is the exact opposite trade that a bad team should make.Non-PPR IDP
Derrick Henry and Odell Beckham
for
Jonathan Taylor, TJ Watt and 2022 #1 and #2 (the trading owner had the #1 3 years running now)
I don't think that is working for Beckham anymore though. I have received a couple offers with him, though. People are definitely trying to offload.Henry is obviously great but Beckham has been skating by on reputation for about three years now.
I'd have kept looking for a better deal to unload Mostert.FFPC
Roster cutdown coming
Raheem Mostert
For
Pick 55
I’m sure he did that and this was the best haul available in his particular league. Calculator values aren’t accurate when it comes to a player’s perceived value in a small sample size of 11 other owners...menobrown said:I'd have kept looking for a better deal to unload Mostert.
He had over 2 more monthsI’m sure he did that and this was the best haul available in his particular league. Calculator values aren’t accurate when it comes to a player’s perceived value in a small sample size of 11 other owners...
While picks become more dear to their owners. I get what you're saying. Mostert's value should be higher than that. It should be around a second or third, but sometimes people just aren't biting, especially with him for some reason. I went through something similar, and got lucky to get a mid-second from a contender right before Week 13.He had over 2 more months
I don't know if you're going to be getting much better than that for him, personally.menobrown said:I'd have kept looking for a better deal to unload Mostert.
Julio/1st. By a lotFFPC Superflex
Gave: JuJu
Got: Julio, 2022 1st
I think people see that any RB they put back there is able to be successful and that hurts Mostert’s perceived value. If Jeff Wilson can come in and score 3 TDs, why not just grab the lower “rated” RBs from the team and wait your turn.While picks become more dear to their owners. I get what you're saying. Mostert's value should be higher than that. It should be around a second or third, but sometimes people just aren't biting, especially with him for some reason. I went through something similar, and got lucky to get a mid-second from a contender right before Week 13.
Very true. I was tempted to send the Wilson owner an offer the other day. Unless they draft somebody at RB, he's set for some work in that offense.I think people see that any RB they put back there is able to be successful and that hurts Mostert’s perceived value. If Jeff Wilson can come in and score 3 TDs, why not just grab the lower “rated” RBs from the team and wait your turn.
The trade was rescinded. (I thought it was accepted.)Spike said:Non-PPR IDP
Derrick Henry and Odell Beckham
for
Jonathan Taylor, TJ Watt and 2022 #1 and #2 (the trading owner had the #1 3 years running now)
You should be ashamed of yourselfThe trade was rescinded. (I thought it was accepted.)
What DID get accepted (and has gone through) is as follows:
Beckham, Aldon Smith and Leighton Vander Eshch
for
His 2022 #1.
My team is aging and his is just bad. At QB he has Tua and Wentz, at RB he only has Taylor, at WR he has Robby Anderson, Beckham, Alshon Jeffrey and Denzel Mims. He has 9 TEs, the best of whom is Allie Mo-Cox, Aldon Smith is now his best DL and his only other good defensive player is TJ Watt.
Same leagueghostguy123 said:FFPC
Roster cutdown coming
Raheem Mostert
For
Pick 55