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1 hour ago, menobrown said:

For sure and something I totally forgot to add, and probably reason I went on that spiel about why are people so anti-Amari in the first place. I split a FFPC team with a friend of mine but he's just along for the ride, I run everything. Last offseason I traded Mike Evans for Amari and Diontae and he was po'ed when I told him. So when I say it's people on here dogging Amari it's more then that. When Amari had his late season slide his anger reached a point he started telling me when I do offseason cuts I should just flat chop Amari and he's begging for me to try and trade him. Which I have no problem doing but explained to him that people in dynasty just don't really like Amari so I'd rather just keep him.

 

I like that deal for you but man, that is a deal of three players that will draw some strong feelings in the fantasy community.

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9 hours ago, barackdhouse said:

I really thought I was going to get some other work done today but the offers are flying in and I have a couple more to report:

FFPC SF:
I gave Pittman, 2.05, 2022 2nd &3rd
I got Diggs

FFPC not mine:
Team A gave Ekeler, McKissic, 2.04
Team B gave McLaurin, Herbert

FFPC same one I swapped Zeke for Jacobs up above:
I gave 2022 1st, 2nd, 3rd
I got Claypool, Pittman, D Evans

Two other FFPC SF not involved:

McKissic for a future 4th and Jeffrey Wilson for a future 3rd

 

How many orphans did you buy? Jeez.

That 1st one though is going heavily un-noticed. Seems insanely light for Diggs. But if I'm wrong, I'll be posting in this thread soon with similar offers of me acquiring him. 

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56 minutes ago, Zyphros said:

How many orphans did you buy? Jeez.

That 1st one though is going heavily un-noticed. Seems insanely light for Diggs. But if I'm wrong, I'll be posting in this thread soon with similar offers of me acquiring him. 

Yes the Diggs deal is silly

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15 hours ago, Zyphros said:

How many orphans did you buy? Jeez.

That 1st one though is going heavily un-noticed. Seems insanely light for Diggs. But if I'm wrong, I'll be posting in this thread soon with similar offers of me acquiring him. 

Yeah it just came in out of left field. The offers have been flying so heavy but maybe I should look and see if my trade partner was a new owner. I don't remember anymore. Maybe they want to do some other stuff.

Yeah I bought my limit on the orphans, but I think they were ridiculously underpriced at the auction site and I'm confident they can be winners. Most of them made the playoffs last year and simply lack current draft picks. I've been seeing $250 teams selling for $700 this month. $500 teams for $1200. I don't know what is more realistic, me buying a $250 orphan for around 50 bucks and winning with it, or buying a $250 orphan for $700 and losing. 2nd place doesn't even get you your money back in that scenario. Oh I guess it does if you get the $200 bonus for finishing as the 1 or 2 seed.

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FFPC SF:

I gave 2022 4th
I got Hamler

Same league not involved:

A gave Kupp
B gave 2.03, 2.10, 3.09

Same league, me and team B above:

I gave Henderson
I got 3.08, 2022 3rd

The Diggs trade factored into my Henderson trade here as I needed to make room and I don't want him anymore anyway. But then Hamler came in for practically free. I can probably throw him in on something later. Or possibly keep him if I sell off one more piece. 

ETA Team A is the one that sent me Diggs and is not a new owner

 

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Team A there now has 2.03, 2.05, 2.09, 2.10, 3.06, 3.09, two future 2nds, two future 3rds, bunch of 4ths as well.

No current 1sts but he may be stretching my theory on how flexible draft picks are. How many of those 2nds and 3rds does it take to get to 1.10, as an example? Then add the future 1st and you're taking Chase at like 1.05 (in SF, maybe, IDK). Is that worth Diggs and Kupp and whatever the balance of the rest of it shakes out as?

Or maybe just take a ton of dart throws and see how many bullseyes you can get.

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Been offering trades the last 2 weeks I think in FFPC, finally got one done. Either my leagues aren't paying attention yet, or none of my offers are worth responding.

I traded: D'Andre Swift, 1.08

I got: Kittle, 1.05

I view a tier jump from 8 to 5 and I'm not sold on Swift's situation long term. My biggest hole was TE so I got that figured out. Still have Taylor, Akers, Gibson, Sanders as my RB's

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15 minutes ago, Zyphros said:

Been offering trades the last 2 weeks I think in FFPC, finally got one done. Either my leagues aren't paying attention yet, or none of my offers are worth responding.

I traded: D'Andre Swift, 1.08

I got: Kittle, 1.05

I view a tier jump from 8 to 5 and I'm not sold on Swift's situation long term. My biggest hole was TE so I got that figured out. Still have Taylor, Akers, Gibson, Sanders as my RB's

Winning.  Kittle>>Swift

I bought an orphan and swung a few deals right away.

Past couple weeks I noticed about 8 teams not engaged at all.  

People are in too many leagues these days and need a break.  Covid?

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3 hours ago, Zyphros said:

Been offering trades the last 2 weeks I think in FFPC, finally got one done. Either my leagues aren't paying attention yet, or none of my offers are worth responding.

I traded: D'Andre Swift, 1.08

I got: Kittle, 1.05

I view a tier jump from 8 to 5 and I'm not sold on Swift's situation long term. My biggest hole was TE so I got that figured out. Still have Taylor, Akers, Gibson, Sanders as my RB's

Kittle>Swift by a fair amount. And you got the better pick too? Close to robbery. 

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4 hours ago, Zyphros said:

Been offering trades the last 2 weeks I think in FFPC, finally got one done. Either my leagues aren't paying attention yet, or none of my offers are worth responding.

I traded: D'Andre Swift, 1.08

I got: Kittle, 1.05

I view a tier jump from 8 to 5 and I'm not sold on Swift's situation long term. My biggest hole was TE so I got that figured out. Still have Taylor, Akers, Gibson, Sanders as my RB's

I wish I could get that deal for Kittle

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8 hours ago, barackdhouse said:

Yeah I bought my limit on the orphans, but I think they were ridiculously underpriced at the auction site and I'm confident they can be winners. Most of them made the playoffs last year and simply lack current draft picks. I've been seeing $250 teams selling for $700 this month. $500 teams for $1200. I don't know what is more realistic, me buying a $250 orphan for around 50 bucks and winning with it, or buying a $250 orphan for $700 and losing. 2nd place doesn't even get you your money back in that scenario. Oh I guess it does if you get the $200 bonus for finishing as the 1 or 2 seed.

How does it work when you buy a team on dynastydepot, do you still have to pay 2021's entry fee?

IE if you buy a $250 team for $50 bucks does that cover your 2021 season, or do you still have to pay $250 for this year on top of that?  And do you have to pay the $125 deposit for 2022?

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Btw it seems like we have a ton of FFPC players in here.  Any interest in later on in the offseason all jumping into the same FFPC startup league and having an FFPC league of mostly FBGs?  Would be fun to be in some leagues with some of you all.

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42 minutes ago, Helaire-ious said:

I wish I could get that deal for Kittle

It helped both of us. The guy who had Kittle bought it as an orphan I believe. New owner and all. Kittle was his only real piece. 

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6 minutes ago, jadensdad said:

12 team ppr, Superflex Te premium 

Team A - kelce, miles sanders

Team B - 1.04, 2.03,gesicki

Team B is last season champion 

Which is worse, highway robbery or grand larceny?

On further thought...That should be vetoed.

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43 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Which is worse, highway robbery or grand larceny?

On further thought...That should be vetoed.

I wouldn't go as far as veto - but it is pretty predatory by the defending champ. 

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10 hours ago, FreeBaGeL said:

How does it work when you buy a team on dynastydepot, do you still have to pay 2021's entry fee?

IE if you buy a $250 team for $50 bucks does that cover your 2021 season, or do you still have to pay $250 for this year on top of that?  And do you have to pay the $125 deposit for 2022?

 

10 hours ago, FreeBaGeL said:

Btw it seems like we have a ton of FFPC players in here.  Any interest in later on in the offseason all jumping into the same FFPC startup league and having an FFPC league of mostly FBGs?  Would be fun to be in some leagues with some of you all.

I have only sold teams on DD so far but you can't sell a team without first renewing so that is taken care of beforehand. If you buy a $250 team for $50 the 2021 season is paid for but you have to pay the deposit which in this case is $100 and a 10% transaction fee on the sale price $5. The seller pays the same transaction fee and gets their deposit back from FFPC so in this case $45 and the $100 deposit. The seller could have just orphaned it for a net loss of $100 vs $95 so pretty meh on the selling side.

I would be up for a little FBG dynasty combat:boxing: 

 

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11 hours ago, FreeBaGeL said:

How does it work when you buy a team on dynastydepot, do you still have to pay 2021's entry fee?

IE if you buy a $250 team for $50 bucks does that cover your 2021 season, or do you still have to pay $250 for this year on top of that?  And do you have to pay the $125 deposit for 2022?

The $50 (or whatever it may be) covers 2021. Fully. But you do have to pay a deposit for 2022. 

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16 hours ago, Zyphros said:

Been offering trades the last 2 weeks I think in FFPC, finally got one done. Either my leagues aren't paying attention yet, or none of my offers are worth responding.

I traded: D'Andre Swift, 1.08

I got: Kittle, 1.05

I view a tier jump from 8 to 5 and I'm not sold on Swift's situation long term. My biggest hole was TE so I got that figured out. Still have Taylor, Akers, Gibson, Sanders as my RB's

I got Swift on par with Kittle myself but with it certainly being possible we see a tier drop off from 8 to 5 and addressing a need with a surplus is all good work.

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11 hours ago, FreeBaGeL said:

Btw it seems like we have a ton of FFPC players in here.  Any interest in later on in the offseason all jumping into the same FFPC startup league and having an FFPC league of mostly FBGs?  Would be fun to be in some leagues with some of you all.

Yeah I would. I tried to do a $350 FBG contest last year with a bunch of us and probably would have pulled it off but once COVID hit I abandoned bothering with it. There are a couple of us that have already spoken about doing a startup though. We can keep thinking about it.

 

15 hours ago, ghostguy123 said:

Winning.  Kittle>>Swift

I bought an orphan and swung a few deals right away.

Past couple weeks I noticed about 8 teams not engaged at all.  

People are in too many leagues these days and need a break.  Covid?

Yes I wiped a bunch of leagues off my slate at the end of 2020 and bought a few orphans that I'm comfortable with, but COVID doesn't help. I'm in Oregon where things have been arguably locked down the most and for the longest, so yeah I have too much time on my hands. My son is more or less on autopilot by himself doing 2nd grade in his bedroom, where he doesn't need as much 1 on 1 as he did in September/October.

Anyway I have seen activity really pick up in my leagues in the last week or so. But it seems there are always deadbeats regardless of format or time of year.

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16 hours ago, Zyphros said:

Been offering trades the last 2 weeks I think in FFPC, finally got one done. Either my leagues aren't paying attention yet, or none of my offers are worth responding.

I traded: D'Andre Swift, 1.08

I got: Kittle, 1.05

I view a tier jump from 8 to 5 and I'm not sold on Swift's situation long term. My biggest hole was TE so I got that figured out. Still have Taylor, Akers, Gibson, Sanders as my RB's

I like your side for all the reasons you said, but I think even if someone is really pro-Swift this deal probably still makes sense.

Hard to know on the bolded, right? Sometimes the owners that I think are inactive will perk up the instant they see an asset they like. In that league we're in together, FWIW, I have "Zyphros from FBG forum - good guy I like a lot - probably too expensive for me most of the time". Doesn't mean a lot, just a point of reference. There are owners that are out of my ballpark on deals and I tend to shy away in the future. But I try to be realistic about it and acknowledge that it is just as likely that I am too cheap.

 

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1 hour ago, NE_REVIVAL said:

 

The seller could have just orphaned it for a net loss of $100 vs $95 so pretty meh on the selling side.

I would be up for a little FBG dynasty combat:boxing: 

 

Yeah man it's a little bizarre. Like you have to pay the full entry to be able to sell it. So you're agreeing to take a loss by setting the price so low, regardless of whether they pay the $5 fee thru DD or whether straight thru FFPC. I don't know what the deadline is for FFPC to fill all these orphans, but it seems like (previous owners) could wait just a little longer for guys like me to pay up. 

I'm telling you a couple of these teams I bought should probably be discounted but nothing remotely close to as low as I paid. 

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10 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

It's light for Kelce OR Sanders.

Probably true. SF gives slight bump to 1.04 but still imbalanced. If Lawrence and whoever QB2 ends up being goes before 1.04, then you're looking at RB1 or WR1 there. Also a chance for the new 1.04 owner to get to 1.01 easier. It is a bad deal, though. 

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18 minutes ago, barackdhouse said:

Probably true. SF gives slight bump to 1.04 but still imbalanced. If Lawrence and whoever QB2 ends up being goes before 1.04, then you're looking at RB1 or WR1 there. Also a chance for the new 1.04 owner to get to 1.01 easier. It is a bad deal, though. 

Not a new owner.  Last season champ got the picks...

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1 hour ago, barackdhouse said:

I like your side for all the reasons you said, but I think even if someone is really pro-Swift this deal probably still makes sense.

Hard to know on the bolded, right? Sometimes the owners that I think are inactive will perk up the instant they see an asset they like. In that league we're in together, FWIW, I have "Zyphros from FBG forum - good guy I like a lot - probably too expensive for me most of the time". Doesn't mean a lot, just a point of reference. There are owners that are out of my ballpark on deals and I tend to shy away in the future. But I try to be realistic about it and acknowledge that it is just as likely that I am too cheap.

 

How dare you!

That league we're in together though, our teams are almost polar opposites so it makes sense nothing would really work for us. We went different routes in the startup and we're playing to how we set it up. Those 2 styles just don't really cross paths, at least for now. 

I have notes on most of my league mates, mostly just the ones that have shown interest in a player, or that actually communicate in trade offers rather than just sending an offer. Not necessarily about their style or anything though. 

I'm totally kidding I don't find it disrespectful or anything since I have notes about owners as well. 

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1 hour ago, barackdhouse said:

I like your side for all the reasons you said, but I think even if someone is really pro-Swift this deal probably still makes sense.

I would qualify as that really pro-Swift guy and yes I thought it made sense.

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13 hours ago, FreeBaGeL said:

Btw it seems like we have a ton of FFPC players in here.  Any interest in later on in the offseason all jumping into the same FFPC startup league and having an FFPC league of mostly FBGs?  Would be fun to be in some leagues with some of you all.

Or just form our own and not pay vig, I'm in 3 private leagues that broke off from FFPC players and the leagues are all on MFL and 5+ years old and never have issues. I've not done a startup in 5 years, I'd be interested either way except I'm super picky on the date range(which has been one of my issues doing a new startup) because I'll only do them if the drafts start from late May to mid July. Not strategic reason for this either I'm just not into baseball and by this time my rookie drafts are all over and that time period is super dead for me and I like filling it up with a startup.

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22 minutes ago, menobrown said:

Or just form our own and not pay vig, I'm in 3 private leagues that broke off from FFPC players and the leagues are all on MFL and 5+ years old and never have issues. I've not done a startup in 5 years, I'd be interested either way except I'm super picky on the date range(which has been one of my issues doing a new startup) because I'll only do them if the drafts start from late May to mid July. Not strategic reason for this either I'm just not into baseball and by this time my rookie drafts are all over and that time period is super dead for me and I like filling it up with a startup.

Yeah only problem spinning off to save the vig is then someone would have to commish it to fill openings that come up, especially if we have less than 12 FBGs and need the other spots filled.

Plus FFPC's website is pretty slick.

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2 hours ago, Zyphros said:

How dare you!

That league we're in together though, our teams are almost polar opposites so it makes sense nothing would really work for us. We went different routes in the startup and we're playing to how we set it up. Those 2 styles just don't really cross paths, at least for now. 

I have notes on most of my league mates, mostly just the ones that have shown interest in a player, or that actually communicate in trade offers rather than just sending an offer. Not necessarily about their style or anything though. 

I'm totally kidding I don't find it disrespectful or anything since I have notes about owners as well. 

Haha yeah we did go different routes and I think you're right. A lot of the time there just isn't a sweet spot there.

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FFPC SF:

I gave Golladay, 3.03
I got 2.03, Slayton, Perine, 2022 3rd

If it matters I offered Golladay for his 1.11 straight up the other day and he declined. I feel like this is even more value on my side, though. I don't have a ton of hope for Slayton but I think there is nowhere to go but up for the Giants assuming they get Barkley back healthy. And I'm just not into Golladay. I know he is probably about to go somewhere shiny in FA, but I think Slayton could still outperform him in 2021 and is obviously younger. Perine is a throw in and if I was willing to do Golladay for 1.11 then 2.03 plus all those other pieces seems like a win. Now I have 1.09, 2.03, 2.05, 2.09 and should be able to parlay that into some top WR/RB combos in this SF format.

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2 hours ago, Zyphros said:

How dare you!

That league we're in together though, our teams are almost polar opposites so it makes sense nothing would really work for us. We went different routes in the startup and we're playing to how we set it up. Those 2 styles just don't really cross paths, at least for now. 

I have notes on most of my league mates, mostly just the ones that have shown interest in a player, or that actually communicate in trade offers rather than just sending an offer. Not necessarily about their style or anything though. 

I'm totally kidding I don't find it disrespectful or anything since I have notes about owners as well. 

I don't really keep much for notes. It's mostly for when certain things really stand out that I want to take note of. Usually it is that they are interested in a player or we have had some kind of chat in the past about deal(s) that might be relevant to remember. From another perspective I don't want to spam people that have already turned me down and aren't interested in some asset. I probably offer the same crap too much to people so I try to be aware. In your case I was joking about the price thing - only reason I made a note was because I thought you might like Juju and because I didn't want to forget that you're Zyphros. I think your strategy out of the startup is about to start paying off, though. You're in a strong position to leverage this draft into a perennial contender, IMO. 

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Zealots Field (PPR with IDPs; 53-man rosters)

Traded:

OBJ, Joe Schobert, 2021 5.11 rookie pick

Received:

Keenan Allen, 2021 4.05

It's just that I figure OBJ is done as far as being a top-20 WR and I've now sold my shares of him.

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7 minutes ago, Spike said:

Zealots Field (PPR with IDPs; 53-man rosters)

Traded:

OBJ, Joe Schobert, 2021 5.11 rookie pick

Received:

Keenan Allen, 2021 4.05

It's just that I figure OBJ is done as far as being a top-20 WR and I've now sold my shares of him.

To me and Dynasty Trade Calculator, it's very close, depends how you are at LB and exactly how done you think Beckham is.

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2 minutes ago, rockaction said:

To me and Dynasty Trade Calculator, it's very close, depends how you are at LB and exactly how done you think Beckham is.

Still have Blake Martinez, KJ Wright and Bobby Wagner at LB.  Really feel OBJ is in too much of a time-share with Landry and their great rushing attack to be much of a WR1.

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3 minutes ago, Spike said:

Still have Blake Martinez, KJ Wright and Bobby Wagner at LB.  Really feel OBJ is in too much of a time-share with Landry and their great rushing attack to be much of a WR1.

Not bad. KJ is a free agent, though, right? Still, that's an adequate LB3. You had essentially three LB1s before. So you'd be stronger at LB with Schobert, but Allen really trumps OBJ right now in terms of production, IMO. So good work for your individual team.

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FFPC cutdown motivated trade:

Gave: Dawson Knox, 2.8

Got: 2.3

Knox was a projected cut who I just picked up on the last waiver run of the season, I had picks 2.8, 2.9 and 2.10 and in hindsight probably should have offered 2.10 instead because based on reaction I think it would have been accepted, heck might have even got 3.8/Knox for 2.3 so probably did not maximize my trade but still glad to move up.

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2 minutes ago, menobrown said:

FFPC cutdown motivated trade:

Gave: Dawson Knox, 2.8

Got: 2.3

Knox was a projected cut who I just picked up on the last waiver run of the season, I had picks 2.8, 2.9 and 2.10 and in hindsight probably should have offered 2.10 instead because based on reaction I think it would have been accepted, heck might have even got 3.8/Knox for 2.3 so probably did not maximize my trade but still glad to move up.

I like it. Dawson's just a guy, though his role is growing as we could see in the latter stages of the year, especially the Miami game. If you were going to cut him, anyway, though, that's a good move.

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1 hour ago, barackdhouse said:

FFPC SF:

I gave Golladay, 3.03
I got 2.03, Slayton, Perine, 2022 3rd

If it matters I offered Golladay for his 1.11 straight up the other day and he declined. I feel like this is even more value on my side, though. I don't have a ton of hope for Slayton but I think there is nowhere to go but up for the Giants assuming they get Barkley back healthy. And I'm just not into Golladay. I know he is probably about to go somewhere shiny in FA, but I think Slayton could still outperform him in 2021 and is obviously younger. Perine is a throw in and if I was willing to do Golladay for 1.11 then 2.03 plus all those other pieces seems like a win. Now I have 1.09, 2.03, 2.05, 2.09 and should be able to parlay that into some top WR/RB combos in this SF format.

I would much rather have the Golladay side.  I just don't trust Slayton to do anything more than a bye week hope starter and Perine doesn't do anything for me.  The picks are not nearly enough to give up a stud in Golladay.

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2 hours ago, Gally said:

I would much rather have the Golladay side.  I just don't trust Slayton to do anything more than a bye week hope starter and Perine doesn't do anything for me.  The picks are not nearly enough to give up a stud in Golladay.

I’m with you here. 

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On 1/21/2021 at 7:38 PM, The Future Champs said:

Depends a bit on your IDP scoring, as McQueen is worth a lot more than Walker.   That said, this looks like a you might have given up a little more, but if you had to trade under salary cap duress, I'd say you did pretty damn good.

Yes IDP's score pretty high in this league, especially for big plays like sacks, int's, etc. But as I said it was mainly cap driven and I think I came out of it pretty well.

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