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2 minutes ago, menobrown said:

even if they have have so much roster room that adding and keeping these picks did not look like an issue, hard to not feel like they just got about 75 cents on the dollar for Mahomes.

The picks are lousy for Mahomes. I know there's supposed to be compensation for Mahomes in the form of Tua, but I can't shake that same feeling about the seventy-five cents.

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13 minutes ago, Cjw_55106 said:

12 team ppr, start 1 QB. 4 pts TD. 

I play under the same dynasty settings. Drafted Rodgers 1.05 in the start up (2011) and traded him away for the 1.1 and 2.1 a couple of years later. Then I moved the 1.1 in a package that involved Nuk coming back my way. I've won the 'ship 3 times since then and have a handful of 2nd and 3rd place finishes as well. *pats self on back*

I tell you all of this just to say that I don't think this guy is going to find the same success here. Mahomes has more value now then Rodgers had then. If you're going to trade a stud you gotta get one in return. 

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5 minutes ago, farfromforgotten said:

I play under the same dynasty settings. Drafted Rodgers 1.05 in the start up (2011) and traded him away for the 1.1 and 2.1 a couple of years later. Then I moved the 1.1 in a package that involved Nuk coming back my way. I've won the 'ship 3 times since then and have a handful of 2nd and 3rd place finishes as well. *pats self on back*

I tell you all of this just to say that I don't think this guy is going to find the same success here. Mahomes has more value now then Rodgers had then. If you're going to trade a stud you gotta get one in return. 

If anything, your post shows that you were over compensated for Rodgers.  

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1 minute ago, ghostguy123 said:

No roster limits?  You can have 50 guys?

If that's the case then the deal is just "not good?

I thought you were referring to positional roster limits. I don’t see how that’s relevant to the trade but 23 guys is the roster limit. He has plenty of guys to cut if you are concerned about too many draft picks

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2 hours ago, ghostguy123 said:

If anything, your post shows that you were over compensated for Rodgers.  

Eh, at the time Rodgers was considered a set it and forget it at the QB position for the next decade plus. Probably what Mahomes is considered now. That draft was the one where Gio Bernard was typically the 1.1 pick. Not viewed as a particularly strong draft class at the time. 

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57 minutes ago, barackdhouse said:

FFPC Superflex:

I gave Antonio Gibson, 2022 1st (defending champ)
I got Russell Wilson

FFPC regular:

I gave Burrows, 1.05
I got Mahomes

In the FFPC orphan I took over, nobody is giving any sort of 1st for a QB, not even future 1st.

That said, I can easily see paying pick 5 for mahomes.  

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10 minutes ago, barackdhouse said:

FFPC not involved

Team A gave James Robinson, 2022 1st (looks late to me)

Team B gave 1.01

Team A has got somebody in mind, eh? I like it for both if they like it. That's about even.

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57 minutes ago, rockaction said:

Team A has got somebody in mind, eh? I like it for both if they like it. That's about even.

I think I like James Robinson basically equal to the 1.01 or close, but I know I am probably in the minority (as usual). I can't see paying that price to get 1.01, but I might a few months from now. So maybe it does make sense given how much more it will be worth as we move on. Could easily flip for another deal better than Robinson plus a late 1st. So...?

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1 minute ago, barackdhouse said:

I think I like James Robinson basically equal to the 1.01 or close, but I know I am probably in the minority (as usual). I can't see paying that price to get 1.01, but I might a few months from now. So maybe it does make sense given how much more it will be worth as we move on. Could easily flip for another deal better than Robinson plus a late 1st. So...?

I see. So Robinson would be 1.01? Perhaps I really undervalued Robinson. I'm beginning to regret moving him for what I did. Smart money says he's the starter. I still think Meyer is going to want his guy for some reason. Then he's an asset that just lost a whole lot of value. Enough about me. Calcs have this all even, as do I. My personal thought: I think getting Chase or whoever you believe in (I'm not thinking that the guy is picking Harris or Etienne for two reasons. Age, and they haven't proven they're three down backs yet. Why would you move a younger, three-down Robinson for one of those guys?) is good value for the pick and Robinson. 

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9 hours ago, rockaction said:

I see. So Robinson would be 1.01? Perhaps I really undervalued Robinson. I'm beginning to regret moving him for what I did. Smart money says he's the starter. I still think Meyer is going to want his guy for some reason. Then he's an asset that just lost a whole lot of value. Enough about me. Calcs have this all even, as do I. My personal thought: I think getting Chase or whoever you believe in (I'm not thinking that the guy is picking Harris or Etienne for two reasons. Age, and they haven't proven they're three down backs yet. Why would you move a younger, three-down Robinson for one of those guys?) is good value for the pick and Robinson. 

Robinson isn’t close to being worth the 1.01.

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10 hours ago, rockaction said:

I see. So Robinson would be 1.01? Perhaps I really undervalued Robinson. I'm beginning to regret moving him for what I did. Smart money says he's the starter. I still think Meyer is going to want his guy for some reason. Then he's an asset that just lost a whole lot of value. Enough about me. Calcs have this all even, as do I. My personal thought: I think getting Chase or whoever you believe in (I'm not thinking that the guy is picking Harris or Etienne for two reasons. Age, and they haven't proven they're three down backs yet. Why would you move a younger, three-down Robinson for one of those guys?) is good value for the pick and Robinson. 

 

1 hour ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Robinson isn’t close to being worth the 1.01.

I think it totally depends on who your 1.01 is. Like rock said, if you have Chase at 1.01 I think that's reasonable to consider him over Robinson. If you view a RB (whichever one, Harris, Etienne, Williams, Hubbard, whoever) as the 1.01 I think it's a no-brainer to prefer James Robinson. I prefer Williams at 1.01 right now, and I would prefer to have Robinson over him. Maybe rookie hype hasn't peaked yet and since we don't know landing spot the conversation for the 1.01 is still relatively open. When it's a little more defined there seems to be an argument either way.

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Which side do you like?  1 point PPR, FFPC dynasty league. 

Stefon Diggs

for

2021 01.07 & 2021 01.10 picks

I am rebuilding would get Diggs. I have 4 first round picks, those two plus 01.02 and 01.04. 

my current WR are:

C. Sutton

C. Claypool

C. Samuel

M. Pittman

B. Edwards

Q. Cephus 

others I am keeping:

QB A. Rogers

QB K. Murray

QB D. Watson

RB M. Sanders

RB Z. Moss 

RB T. Pollard

RB L. Bowden

TE D. Goedert 

K and D

We keep 16 before rookie draft. 

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15 minutes ago, Sol D said:

Which side do you like?  1 point PPR, FFPC dynasty league. 

Stefon Diggs

for

2021 01.07 & 2021 01.10 picks

I am rebuilding would get Diggs. I have 4 first round picks, those two plus 01.02 and 01.04. 

We'll just pretend you already made the trade. I like it for you.

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2 minutes ago, Sol D said:

FFPC 1 QB Dynasty league is A Rodgers  worth a 2021 02.10 and 2022 2nd?

If not more or less?

Thanks for your feedback

For your first question above, you're really looking for the Assistant Coach Forum. For this one you're looking for the Dynasty Value thread here in the Pool.

Since you already have Watson and Murray, I'd take the two dart throws for Rodgers (I'm just not a proponent of hoarding QBs). Unless you could trade one of the others for a first.

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28 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

For your first question above, you're really looking for the Assistant Coach Forum. For this one you're looking for the Dynasty Value thread here in the Pool.

Since you already have Watson and Murray, I'd take the two dart throws for Rodgers (I'm just not a proponent of hoarding QBs). Unless you could trade one of the others for a first.

Thanks I posted over there a few days ago and go no feedback. The subject of this thread said Dynasty trades so thought it was for that.  Thanks for the feedback. 

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1 hour ago, Sol D said:

Which side do you like?  1 point PPR, FFPC dynasty league. 

Stefon Diggs

for

2021 01.07 & 2021 01.10 picks

I am rebuilding would get Diggs. I have 4 first round picks, those two plus 01.02 and 01.04. 

my current WR are:

C. Sutton

C. Claypool

C. Samuel

M. Pittman

B. Edwards

Q. Cephus 

others I am keeping:

QB A. Rogers

QB K. Murray

QB D. Watson

RB M. Sanders

RB Z. Moss 

RB T. Pollard

RB L. Bowden

TE D. Goedert 

K and D

We keep 16 before rookie draft. 

You value this roster as rebuilding?! It looks more like a team coming off from a championship.

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14 hours ago, barackdhouse said:

FFPC not involved

Team A gave James Robinson, 2022 1st (looks late to me)

Team B gave 1.01

Seen to many RB's value get trashed during the draft or earlier in FA process so as a general rule I think it's bad business to buy a veteran RB before those things happen especially when giving up an asset that is flexible and fairly bulletproof from dropping.

And the 2022 first was to much to throw in even if Jags draft or sign no valid competition.

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1 hour ago, Born to Run said:

You value this roster as rebuilding?! It looks more like a team coming off from a championship.

It finished in 11th place in 12 team league. Besides QB, not much consistency and lots of injuries.  But I do hope to turn it around quickly and think Diggs would help. 

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4 hours ago, foxco said:

What pick would he be worth to you?

I’m not necessarily a believer. I wouldn’t be shocked if the Jags either sign a free agent or draft a back early that cuts heavily into Robinson’s workload - and to me volume had much to do with his success.

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15 hours ago, barackdhouse said:

I think I like James Robinson basically equal to the 1.01 or close, but I know I am probably in the minority (as usual). I can't see paying that price to get 1.01, but I might a few months from now. So maybe it does make sense given how much more it will be worth as we move on. Could easily flip for another deal better than Robinson plus a late 1st. So...?

 

15 hours ago, rockaction said:

I see. So Robinson would be 1.01? Perhaps I really undervalued Robinson. I'm beginning to regret moving him for what I did. Smart money says he's the starter. I still think Meyer is going to want his guy for some reason. Then he's an asset that just lost a whole lot of value. Enough about me. Calcs have this all even, as do I. My personal thought: I think getting Chase or whoever you believe in (I'm not thinking that the guy is picking Harris or Etienne for two reasons. Age, and they haven't proven they're three down backs yet. Why would you move a younger, three-down Robinson for one of those guys?) is good value for the pick and Robinson. 

No, not 1.01 but in that neighborhood. I am probably being too liberal with the use of the phrase "basically equal" when really "or close" is more like it. But even within that world what I consider to be close and what other people consider to be close are often two different things. Even if we were to agree on Robinson. I like Robinson better than any of the RBs in this crop today, but that is subject to change. But I do think it is likely there are two or three WRs that will be preferable. This is one where I don't think I would give up the 1.01 if this offer came into my box but I wouldn't spend James Robinson and a 1st to get there either. 

As for Robinson specifically, he is only going to be better with Lawrence at QB. Might be right about the new coach wanting his guy but I don't think they're going to go that route. Not yet anyway. Also, James Robinson looked really, really good to me.

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Where do you value Dak in a start 1 QB league.  What players would you trade him for?  What future draft picks is he worth?

 

I was just approached asking what it would take to sell him and I didn't really think about it, but he is expendable so just wanting to get some opinions.

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15 minutes ago, smbkrypt24 said:

Where do you value Dak in a start 1 QB league.  What players would you trade him for?  What future draft picks is he worth?

 

I was just approached asking what it would take to sell him and I didn't really think about it, but he is expendable so just wanting to get some opinions.

Mid 1st?

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15 minutes ago, smbkrypt24 said:

Where do you value Dak in a start 1 QB league.  What players would you trade him for?  What future draft picks is he worth?

I was just approached asking what it would take to sell him and I didn't really think about it, but he is expendable so just wanting to get some opinions.

I've always been told that most start 1 QBs aren't worth a 1st.

I offered a 2022 1st and Tonyan to a guy who won't start Prescott but for a bye week...rejected with no counter.

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10 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

I've always been told that most start 1 QBs aren't worth a 1st.

I offered a 2022 1st and Tonyan to a guy who won't start Prescott but for a bye week...rejected with no counter.

Who does he have ahead of Dak?

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11 minutes ago, Helaire-ious said:

EH, I can see the Robinson side. rookies are always a crapshoot. At least Robinson has proven something

True, but you’re literally getting the best of the bunch. They can certainly bust too, but I would say it’s not very likely. I like James Robinson. Had him on a team last year that lost Saquon Barkley and he was a huge reason I even made the playoffs. But I do still have some doubts. Perhaps I put too much emphasis on draft capital, but I’m always apprehensive about late round or undrafted guys. I would be surprised if Jrob isn’t still the lead back in Jacksonville. I would not be surprised if they draft or bring in a somewhat high profile FA and they pilfer more carries from Jrob than his owners would like. 

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35 minutes ago, Helaire-ious said:

EH, I can see the Robinson side. rookies are always a crapshoot. At least Robinson has proven something

Thing is there's very few UDFA RB's with nice rookie years that end up having continued success. I read an article a few months back about this topic and other than Arien Foster I can't think of anyone else. Sure Lindsey and a few others have had moderate success but not rookie 1.01 type value.

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4 minutes ago, Penguin said:

Thing is there's very few UDFA RB's with nice rookie years that end up having continued success. I read an article a few months back about this topic and other than Arien Foster I can't think of anyone else. Sure Lindsey and a few others have had moderate success but not rookie 1.01 type value.

What would Robinson be worth in your opinion as far as rookie picks in dynasty leagues go?

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1 hour ago, Helaire-ious said:

What would Robinson be worth in your opinion as far as rookie picks in dynasty leagues go?

Full disclosure: I am lower on Robinson than the consensus. Being a UFDA and playing a position that generally doesn't have a long shelf life I'd probably have him around 1.08ish as I like Harris, Etienne, Chase, Pitts, Moore, Smith, Waddle and possibly Bateman and Javonte Williams over him

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3 minutes ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

12 team, .5 PPR, 1 QB

Gave

Josh Jacobs, Davantae Booker, and 6.1

for

CeeDee Lamb, 2022 1st, and 4.4

It's pretty close between Lamb and Jacobs for me, so the 1st side pretty easily.

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Same league with 12 teams, .5 PPR, and 1 QB....yesterday was the 1st day trades could be made official...IMO there were terrible trades below:

Team A gets - 1.5

Team B gets - 1.11 & 2.11

 

Team A gets - 2023 1st

Team C gets - 3.4 & 4.4

 

Team A gets - 2022 2nd & 2023 2nd

Team D gets - 2022 3rd & Leonard Fournette

 

I'm not a fan of any of these deals.

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5 minutes ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

Same league with 12 teams, .5 PPR, and 1 QB....yesterday was the 1st day trades could be made official...IMO there were terrible trades below:

Team A gets - 1.5

Team B gets - 1.11 & 2.11

 

Team A gets - 2023 1st

Team C gets - 3.4 & 4.4

 

Team A gets - 2022 2nd & 2023 2nd

Team D gets - 2022 3rd & Leonard Fournette

 

I'm not a fan of any of these deals.

Every single one of these trades is lopsided.

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13 minutes ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

Same league with 12 teams, .5 PPR, and 1 QB....yesterday was the 1st day trades could be made official...IMO there were terrible trades below:

Team A gets - 1.5

Team B gets - 1.11 & 2.11

 

Team A gets - 2023 1st

Team C gets - 3.4 & 4.4

 

Team A gets - 2022 2nd & 2023 2nd

Team D gets - 2022 3rd & Leonard Fournette

 

I'm not a fan of any of these deals.

Give me the good picks in all and very easily.

The worst of the bunch is the 2023 1st for 3.4 & 4.4. I assume they haven't done their rookie draft, so it's not like a first round talent was sitting there OTC at 3.4 and the guy just had to get him. This screams of an owner who isn't planning to be there when the 2023 1st comes due and as such, this is the type of trade that leagues fold over.

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