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26 minutes ago, NE_REVIVAL said:

Team B took over orphan and been very aggressive in making deals and I give him an "A" for effort so far but I don't like Ruggs or this deal. He told me he was interested in trading future picks for one of my RBs but never mentioned Evans. (fwiw, he had acquired him previously in a deal for Julio & Swift). 

I sort of want to know the Julio/Swift for Evans deal. Tell me there was more than that.

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7 minutes ago, rockaction said:

I sort of want to know the Julio/Swift for Evans deal. Tell me there was more than that.

There was, I didn't mean to mislead, it wasn't terrible, I just remembered Evans was the primary piece and not the direction I would take in a rebuild.  

He got:  

Bell, Le'Veon 
Evans, Mike 
Johnson, David
Prescott, Dak
Hunt, Kareem 
2022 2nd Round

 

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Oh, okay. I don't know which side I like. I think I like the Julio/Swift side, depending on what his team needed. If Dak is a huge piece of the puzzle, then his return is not too far off.

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7 hours ago, smbkrypt24 said:

12 team PPR. Start 1qb, 1-3 RB, 1-3WR (total of 4), 1 TE. 20 bench spots.

All trades are same league settings, but couple different leagues involved.

Dak, 3.12

for

2022 1st, 2022 2nd

 

Goedert

for 

Cox, 2022 1st
 

1.09

for

2022 1st, 2022 2nd

 

2.04, 2022 2nd

for

2022 1st

Another one, this one a Blockbuster:

 

Godwin, A. Robinson, 1.01, 2022 1st, 2022 2nd

for

Chubb, T. Hill, 1.06

 

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5 minutes ago, rockaction said:

Oh, okay. I don't know which side I like. I think I like the Julio/Swift side, depending on what his team needed. If Dak is a huge piece of the puzzle, then his return is not too far off.

Well he already had Lamar Jackson & M Ryan so he wasn't qb needy at all. I would have been looking for picks but the guy he traded with won the lg last yr and didn't have any picks.

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11 minutes ago, NE_REVIVAL said:

There was, I didn't mean to mislead, it wasn't terrible, I just remembered Evans was the primary piece and not the direction I would take in a rebuild.  

He got:  

Bell, Le'Veon 
Evans, Mike 
Johnson, David
Prescott, Dak
Hunt, Kareem 
2022 2nd Round

 

 

8 minutes ago, rockaction said:

Oh, okay. I don't know which side I like. I think I like the Julio/Swift side, depending on what his team needed. If Dak is a huge piece of the puzzle, then his return is not too far off.

But isn't this an FFPC league which has roster spots at a premium?  Seems like those two trades really clogged the roster with not much of anything.  Seems like a bad move in both cases.

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1 minute ago, Gally said:

 

But isn't this an FFPC league which has roster spots at a premium?  Seems like those two trades really clogged the roster with not much of anything.  Seems like a bad move in both cases.

Yea, FFPC and he is up to 27 players on his roster which is not the way to go imho but ive been wrong before.

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7 minutes ago, Gally said:

But isn't this an FFPC league which has roster spots at a premium?  Seems like those two trades really clogged the roster with not much of anything.  Seems like a bad move in both cases.

Oh yeah. I completely overlooked that. The consolidation is the key.

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14 minutes ago, smbkrypt24 said:

Another one, this one a Blockbuster:

 

Godwin, A. Robinson, 1.01, 2022 1st, 2022 2nd

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Chubb, T. Hill, 1.06

 

Wow, that is a huge deal. Current roster would matter but my man love for Najee is growing with my annual onset of rookie fever is in full bloom; that and im not a big Hill guy so im taking the 1.1, but value is probably on the other side. Pretty close imho.

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1 hour ago, NE_REVIVAL said:

FFPC SF BB (Pro v Joe), not involved

Team A gets:

Slayton, Darius
2021 Pick 1.05

Team B gets:

Gordon, Melvin
2021 Pick 1.08

Pretty close (ProvPro), would likely depend on roster but id b leaning 1.5 side

Give me 1.05 and Slayton. Not terribly close. I am still on board for hoping the Giants draft a top WR. I think that should only help Slayton. But this is all about 1.05 over 1.08.

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1 hour ago, NE_REVIVAL said:

FFPC not involved

Team A Gets:

Evans, Mike 
2021 Pick 5.03

Team B Gets:
Thomas, Logan
Snell, Benny
Ruggs, Henry
Team Defense, WAS 
2021 Pick 2.10

 

That's gross.

I took over a crappy orphan and am trying to move Evans and got a really bad offer just like this one today and dude got sour when I rejected. But I was going to put it in the worst offers thread and then saw this. Ruggs may not be so terrible and Evans is trending down (I guess) but dang.

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30 minutes ago, smbkrypt24 said:

Another one, this one a Blockbuster:

 

Godwin, A. Robinson, 1.01, 2022 1st, 2022 2nd

for

Chubb, T. Hill, 1.06

 

This makes my head spin. Haha. Ok I'm trying to figure this out and I think I have to go with the picks side. If that side needs a RB that bad I think I would much rather take one at 1.01 than move for Chubb.

If the bigger motivating factor is to get a difference maker in Hill, then I'm not sure how much I love him more than Godwin *or* Robinson individually. I do like Hill a bit more than each of those guys, but again not sure the gap justifies the cost. I guess I'll say it isn't terrible but if I were a Hill owner that had to have him "pried away from me", this would probably do it. Chase at 1.01 isn't out of the question as a grand slam either BTW.

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I think any deal with a centerpiece of Ruggs and Logan Thomas is highly questionable at this point. Ruggs needs a QB that's going to push the ball downfield a lot. Carr is not that guy. Carr would rather let him stretch the field and throw to Waller underneath. And why not? Raiders had a good offense this year, it's their defense that failed them. 

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Just now, barackdhouse said:

This makes my head spin. Haha. Ok I'm trying to figure this out and I think I have to go with the picks side. If that side needs a RB that bad I think I would much rather take one at 1.01 than move for Chubb.

If the bigger motivating factor is to get a difference maker in Hill, then I'm not sure how much I love him more than Godwin *or* Robinson individually. I do like Hill a bit more than each of those guys, but again not sure the gap justifies the cost. I guess I'll say it isn't terrible but if I were a Hill owner that had to have him "pried away from me", this would probably do it. Chase at 1.01 isn't out of the question as a grand slam either BTW.

I thought it was pretty definitively in Team A's favor in a vacuum, too. The picks did it. 1.01 plus 2022 1st and 2nd? And Godwin and Robinson? Sign me up.

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29 minutes ago, NE_REVIVAL said:

Wow, that is a huge deal. Current roster would matter but my man love for Najee is growing and im not a big Hill guy so im taking the 1.1, but value is probably on the other side. Pretty close imho.

Is it though? On paper I doubt it.

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7 minutes ago, barackdhouse said:

Is it though? On paper I doubt it.

Well, what do you know, huh... DLF's Trade Analyzer has it almost dead even. I thought the same thing you did.

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Just now, rockaction said:

Well, what do you know? DLF's Trade Analyzer has it almost dead even. Huh.

I see one source shows it equal another shows it quite heavier in the picks side. I think they're both overvaluing Chubb and undervaluing the future 1st. But whatever.

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1 minute ago, barackdhouse said:

I see one source shows it equal another shows it quite heavier in the picks side. I think they're both overvaluing Chubb and undervaluing the future 1st. But whatever.

Yeah, I was with you in agreement and then ran it. I also agree that Chubb is overvalued and that the future first is undervalued a  touch. I'm sure RotoUnderworld's calc would make it heavy towards the Godwin side, too, because of the picks. So I guess one is left with their own personal thoughts -- at least for me == that the picks and the 1.01 sort of cement the deal, anyway.

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34 minutes ago, barackdhouse said:

This makes my head spin. Haha. Ok I'm trying to figure this out and I think I have to go with the picks side. If that side needs a RB that bad I think I would much rather take one at 1.01 than move for Chubb.

If the bigger motivating factor is to get a difference maker in Hill, then I'm not sure how much I love him more than Godwin *or* Robinson individually. I do like Hill a bit more than each of those guys, but again not sure the gap justifies the cost. I guess I'll say it isn't terrible but if I were a Hill owner that had to have him "pried away from me", this would probably do it. Chase at 1.01 isn't out of the question as a grand slam either BTW.

I am not involved.  It was a recent startup so all teams pretty equal.  T. Hill, Chubb helps the one team compete now.  the picks side plus Godwin, Robinson makes that team WR heavy and still in contention.

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19 hours ago, barackdhouse said:

FFPC not involved:

Team A gives 1.02

Team G gives 1.05, 2022 1st and 2nd

ETA no idea why I typed G instead of B

I'd lean the 1.5 side but absolutely see this closer right now then most opinions.

I think of stuff like last year were I gave 3/8 for 1.1 after the NFL draft. Was that trade a mistake on my part? Hell yes but that's not the point. The point is I paid it, and the guy with 1.1 actually turned me down before two days later changing his mind and I'd argue I paid more to move up less. So again when I think about the trade in that context I sure don't think it's that bad, and certainly not if those 2022 picks end up later either.

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7 hours ago, barackdhouse said:

There is a team in one my FFPC leagues that I didn't quite notice existed in this state. I just bought into that league myself recently. It is one of the worst FFPC teams I have ever seen and they just did this:

Team A gives Mack
Team B gives Crowder, 3.11

I haven't said which side of this the team falls on so I'll wait for maybe a couple responses, but leaving out the trade pieces his players are: Lock, J Wilson, Edmonds, Lindsay, Bell, DJ, Mostert, Hunt, Carson, Julio, A Brown, Tonyan, K and D. They only have two 2022 5ths and one 6th. Not counting the 3.11 going in the direction it did, they have two current 4ths for 2021 draft capital. Ugh IDK. 

Free Crowder and 3.11.

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3 hours ago, NE_REVIVAL said:

FFPC not involved

Team A Gets:

Evans, Mike 
2021 Pick 5.03

Team B Gets:
Thomas, Logan
Snell, Benny
Ruggs, Henry
Team Defense, WAS 
2021 Pick 2.10

Team B took over orphan and been very aggressive in making deals and I give him an "A" for effort so far but I don't like Ruggs or this deal. He told me he was interested in trading future picks for one of my RBs but never mentioned Evans. (fwiw, he had acquired him previously in a deal for Julio & Swift). 

Likely going to  to need Logan Thomas last month as a 29 year old breakout TE to not be a mirage , Ruggs to take a momentous step up or drill that 2.10 with a Gibson/Claypool type hit. Not betting on any of those. Easy to see a year from now were a team with a good roster has no use for anyone that team B got back.

Now I'm not rushing to buy Evans right now but this is like team A rolled his trash to the curb and found a $100 bill.

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1 hour ago, rockaction said:

Yeah, I was with you in agreement and then ran it. I also agree that Chubb is overvalued and that the future first is undervalued a  touch. I'm sure RotoUnderworld's calc would make it heavy towards the Godwin side, too, because of the picks. So I guess one is left with their own personal thoughts -- at least for me == that the picks and the 1.01 sort of cement the deal, anyway.

When I said the Chubb side probably was the value side it was just a guess but since Rock checked DLF, I checked a few different calcs. DLF was pretty close to even but slightly favoring 1.1, UTH & Rotounderworld somewhat solidly (~12%) on 1.1 side, DTC  had it ~30% for the Chubb\Hill side. Pretty big discrepancy with DTC. Fwiw, I probably trust UTH over the others though Rotounderworld is brand new (at least to me) so time will tell.

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2 hours ago, smbkrypt24 said:

Another one, this one a Blockbuster:

 

Godwin, A. Robinson, 1.01, 2022 1st, 2022 2nd

for

Chubb, T. Hill, 1.06

 

I like both sides, would come down to what my team looks like and where I think the 2022 1st ends up.

Godwin and Robinson have some destination risk with FA coming up. In a vacuum I think I would lean Chubb & Hill but could see the other side.

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Someone just stole Zeke in my PPR league. This might be borderline veto worthy or, at least, up for worst trade of the year. These 2 teams keep doing deals together. These 2 teams did the recent Barkley deal I just posted too. Collusion?

Team A gave Zeke & 2021 1.03

Team B gave Sutton, Haskins, Ruggs, 2022 3rd, Two 2021 4ths & 2022 2nd

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24 minutes ago, Helaire-ious said:

Someone just stole Zeke in my PPR league. This might be borderline veto worthy or, at least, up for worst trade of the year. These 2 teams keep doing deals together. These 2 teams did the recent Barkley deal I just posted too. Collusion?

Team A gave Zeke & 2021 1.03

Team B gave Sutton, Haskins, Ruggs, 2022 3rd, Two 2021 4ths & 2022 2nd

That’s terrible 

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33 minutes ago, Helaire-ious said:

Someone just stole Zeke in my PPR league. This might be borderline veto worthy or, at least, up for worst trade of the year. These 2 teams keep doing deals together. These 2 teams did the recent Barkley deal I just posted too. Collusion?

Team A gave Zeke & 2021 1.03

Team B gave Sutton, Haskins, Ruggs, 2022 3rd, Two 2021 4ths & 2022 2nd

oof

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1 minute ago, rockaction said:

Naw. I'm just playing on Baskin Robbins, the famous ice cream chain.

To bring it back to content-based stuff, that's a terrible trade.

I figured. I was making a poor joke on a joke.

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1 hour ago, Helaire-ious said:

Someone just stole Zeke in my PPR league. This might be borderline veto worthy or, at least, up for worst trade of the year. These 2 teams keep doing deals together. These 2 teams did the recent Barkley deal I just posted too. Collusion?

Team A gave Zeke & 2021 1.03

Team B gave Sutton, Haskins, Ruggs, 2022 3rd, Two 2021 4ths & 2022 2nd

Even if Zeke wasn’t involved, 1.03 by a mile

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10 hours ago, Helaire-ious said:

Someone just stole Zeke in my PPR league. This might be borderline veto worthy or, at least, up for worst trade of the year. These 2 teams keep doing deals together. These 2 teams did the recent Barkley deal I just posted too. Collusion?

Team A gave Zeke & 2021 1.03

Team B gave Sutton, Haskins, Ruggs, 2022 3rd, Two 2021 4ths & 2022 2nd

For the most part that is like saying I'll give you 10 nickels for 1 dollar. 

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13 hours ago, Helaire-ious said:

Someone just stole Zeke in my PPR league. This might be borderline veto worthy or, at least, up for worst trade of the year. These 2 teams keep doing deals together. These 2 teams did the recent Barkley deal I just posted too. Collusion?

Team A gave Zeke & 2021 1.03

Team B gave Sutton, Haskins, Ruggs, 2022 3rd, Two 2021 4ths & 2022 2nd

I don't veto very often (never so far in my Dynasty league) at all but think I might have to here.  All of that hot garbage isn't really worth Zeke or 1.3 but definitely not both.

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29 minutes ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

I don't veto very often (never so far in my Dynasty league) at all but think I might have to here.  All of that hot garbage isn't really worth Zeke or 1.3 but definitely not both.

I don't think you veto but it's worth asking the guy to give his thoughts on why he thought this made his team better in some way.  Just a simple open discussion to feel it.  If you can tell there is no good answer and collusion is going on then you start thinking about a veto. 

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32 minutes ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

I don't veto very often (never so far in my Dynasty league) at all but think I might have to here.  All of that hot garbage isn't really worth Zeke or 1.3 but definitely not both.

Just for the record here I would give serious consideration to the other side for Zeke straight up. The 1.03 is a different story and the combo is crazy. I'm not a huge Ruggs or Sutton fan but I would caution that some of these veto comments scream "overvaluing Zeke and undervaluing Ruggs and Sutton". Don't get me wrong I don't love the other side vs just Zeke but I don't think it is crazy or that far off. 

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1 hour ago, Gally said:

I don't think you veto but it's worth asking the guy to give his thoughts on why he thought this made his team better in some way.  Just a simple open discussion to feel it.  If you can tell there is no good answer and collusion is going on then you start thinking about a veto. 

I asked for his thoughts yesterday & he never replied. Today, I reversed it & then he said "blow me" & he's not paying for the league. No wonder he has been making these deals & did not pay his dues yet. He's no longer in the league after that.

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3 minutes ago, Helaire-ious said:

I asked for his thoughts yesterday & he never replied. Today, I reversed it & then he said "blow me" & he's not paying for the league. No wonder he has been making these deals & did not pay his dues yet. He's no longer in the league after that.

This is why I think before there is any overturn actual discussion is needed.  Just overturning with no explanation can be overblown and cause this exact thing to happen.  Communication is always key and necessary.  It's a shame it came to that.

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