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Boston
Footballguy
It's a dice roll until draft day but if Philly doesn't draft a QB this could be an absolute home run for Team B...not a big price to pay at all for a potential stud fantasy QB who won't be 23 until August...I would do this for Hurts because I feel if it is a worst case case scenario and Philly drafts a QB I still believe he will end up being a starting QB somewhere else and if you were to take one of the big 5 QBs at 1.9 (which is great value in a SF) there is a good chance they would not start right away, so when you look at it that way it calms the fear down even more (IMO)...ballsy move for both owners, that's for sure.
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foxco
Footballguy
Roster clogger or not I was just offered Big Mike for my 3.05. I had the roster spot so I took the deal. Dude is a beast and while he is often plagued with nagging injuries (back, etc) I still think he can be a late career bloomer.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Yeah that is pretty good. Late career bloomer is definitely in the range of outcomes, especially with Herbert there now. Future 2nd is an autoslam for me but at 3.05 I'm probably a buyer depending on room/team needs.
Certainly possible, just can't seem to earn much of a target share and that bloom needs to happen fast as he'll be 27 next season. I do think 3.5 is a solid price to take a shot on if you got room. One of my few non-FFPC leagues is a 21 man roster and I'm holding him in that one.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
He is so much of a roster clogger to me that I don't even try to move him because I assume no one wants to buy him (for a 2nd). I might just drop him inseason honestly.
Serious answer, though, he might be the perfect kind of guy to offer someone during the rookie draft for a bump. Something like 2.06 plus Mike Williams to get to 2.01? IDK.
Serious answer, though, he might be the perfect kind of guy to offer someone during the rookie draft for a bump. Something like 2.06 plus Mike Williams to get to 2.01? IDK.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
12 team ppr QB / 2RB / 3WR / TE / FL
Team A gave up
Reagor, Jalen PHI WR;
Year 2021 Draft Pick 1.08;
Year 2021 Draft Pick 4.07
Team B gave up
Claypool, Chase PIT WR;
Year 2022 Round 4 Draft Pick
Team A gave up
Reagor, Jalen PHI WR;
Year 2021 Draft Pick 1.08;
Year 2021 Draft Pick 4.07
Team B gave up
Claypool, Chase PIT WR;
Year 2022 Round 4 Draft Pick
I shopped him around for a third before trading him and market was cold. Perhaps if/when Hunter Henry leaves that will lead to some belief he can pick up some of that target share and prop up his price a little.
He is getting paid $15.68M this year, you'd think they want to get their money's worth but part of me thinks they only picked up that 5th year option due to sunk cost fallacy. Mike Williams taking up 12% of your cap is tough to justify to me but if people like to invest in players that their teams like to invest in I would point out the Chargers declined to franchise Henry for about $13M but are willing to pay Mike Williams $15.68.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Well he is actually pretty dang good. Just always missing time and not getting 20 targets a game like Keenan. But yeah with Henry leaving it might give him a little boost.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I would jump on this personally but depends on if you love Stafford in LA. I would say even a late pick swap of getting a 3rd back for a 5th or something would be good to wiggle something for name value.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
FFPC not involved:
Team A gives Mixon, Woods, 2022 2nd
Team B gives 1.01, Shenault
ETA crap my bad I typed it wrong it isn't SF - I thought that looked crazy. Still light but a little better.
Team A gives Mixon, Woods, 2022 2nd
Team B gives 1.01, Shenault
ETA crap my bad I typed it wrong it isn't SF - I thought that looked crazy. Still light but a little better.
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Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
That is an interesting trade. Big price as I expect Mixon to have a bounce back year but I would say that probably isn't enough for 1.01.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
Claypool should be good with Juju gone for sure but I think I would take the chance with Reagor and 8 personally. I think 8 still gets you a really good WR or Pitts in standard league and Reagor still has a ton of upside even if it isn't on par with Claypool.
For better or worse,depending on how you want to look at it, he's been surprisingly available for most of the last 3 years. He makes those diving catches and seems to get banged up a lot.
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I would take Claypool on this one. QB concerns are real but in terms of talent my opinions is he's in the Metcalf kind of neighborhood.
kutta
Footballguy
I'll be the lone dissenter here, but I'd keep Kupp unless I was in a full rebuild. That offense will be much more dynamic next year with Stafford and Akers, and Kupp is extremely reliable (I think I read he had PFF's second highest grade on third down - first was Davante Adams). Kupp had 92 catches last year, and didn't play week 17. It's not a stretch to see 100 catches, 1100 yards, and 8-10 TD's in that offense. Also, I believe he will age well since he doesn't rely heavily on speed in his game.
I'd keep Kupp here.
kutta
Footballguy
I'll probably be in the minority again, but I like Akers here. I'm on record as saying that Akers will be a top 5 pick in 2022 redraft leagues. With Evans getting older and his role not super clear, I see Akers as the only superstar in this trade, so I'll take that side.
kutta
Footballguy
Reagor at the 1.08 for me.
We don't really know how good Reagor can be with a full camp and no injuries, but I think he can be pretty good. Toss in the 1.08 and it's a pretty easy call for that side.
kutta
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
my bad I edited it - not SF just regular. I still think it's weird. If you want a WR I'd rather have Chase/Viska if you want RBs I'd rather have my top rookie and Viska. IDK.
lardonastick
Footballguy
12 team SF .5 PPR; not involved
C. Claypool and 1.12
for
A. Jones and 3.07
C. Claypool and 1.12
for
A. Jones and 3.07
barackdhouse
Footballguy
lardonastick
Footballguy
One more from the same league above from a couple weeks ago. 12 team SF .5 PPR, not involved
S. Darnold, 1.07, 2.10, 3.07
for
R. Fitzpatrick, M. Gaskin, L. Bowden, J. Smith-Schuster, T. Tagovailoa, 4.10
S. Darnold, 1.07, 2.10, 3.07
for
R. Fitzpatrick, M. Gaskin, L. Bowden, J. Smith-Schuster, T. Tagovailoa, 4.10
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
I suspect the Dolphins to go after Aaron Jones or draft a RB, Having said that, I would take Hamler in this deal, but I’m not that in love with him either.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I must admit I loved Tua last year, but somehow ended up with a lot of shares of Hurts. At this moment I prefer Hurts in that deal, but that could change over time.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I think a year from now this could easily be the Tua side. But I gotta go Hurts. If for no other reason than I can sell him in SF right now today for more than Tua and by a lot. Nobody wants Tua but he may be a great buy low right now.
Boston
Footballguy
Give me Gaskin...I think both will be fantasy role players so I'd rather have the RB.
Same, I ended up with a lot of hurts shares as well. I made the trade because I don't have any Tua exposure. My main qb's are Lamar and Kyler. I appreciate your reply.
jabarony
Footballguy
FFPC orphan I just purchased.
Gave
Fant
SF K
BUF D
Got
Higbee
2.09
6.09
IND K
MIA D
He offered me Higbee and 2.09 and Herndon. I told him I'd rather have his K, Def, and a 6th!
I really don't like Fant or Higbee. I sort of viewed it as a free 2.09. I'm hoping Higbee has a big week 1 so I can ship him off, too.
Gave
Fant
SF K
BUF D
Got
Higbee
2.09
6.09
IND K
MIA D
He offered me Higbee and 2.09 and Herndon. I told him I'd rather have his K, Def, and a 6th!
I really don't like Fant or Higbee. I sort of viewed it as a free 2.09. I'm hoping Higbee has a big week 1 so I can ship him off, too.
Helaire-ious
Footballguy
Just moved Ingram for 3.10
Helaire-ious
Footballguy
This just went down in PPR
Team A gave Hockenson, Akers & 1.09
Team B gave Waller, Z. Moss, 2.09, 1.02 & 1.07
Team A gave Hockenson, Akers & 1.09
Team B gave Waller, Z. Moss, 2.09, 1.02 & 1.07
Snorkelson
Footballguy
I’ll take the Waller side. Akers looked really good....for about 2 games late in the year. I’ll take a chance on one of the top 3 rbs in this class. Waller should continue to catch a lot of balls; hock could get an uptick in use and maybe has more years, so maybe closer to even. Hard to discern tier breaks but 1.07 looks like the area, prime spot to move back. Plus 2.09 and moss.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
FFPC SuperFlex
I gave 3.04, 2022 4th
I got Slayton, Campbell
I gave 3.04, 2022 4th
I got Slayton, Campbell
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I can see wanting to trade a QB if you have two studs, it’s actually smart, but he got two marginal QBs back and a mediocre TE, so it’s not like he helped himself by dealing from strength.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Tua has some upside but best case scenario probably not as good or valuable as Dak. Everett could land in the best spot in the world and it wouldn't be that big of a deal would it? Try to imagine I didn't actually ask that. Yeah bizarre.
I would actually think that's even less reason to be honest because you don't need the depth of two fringe QB's over one stud backup.
I've been kicking a Dak/Mahomes team for last two years. Started Dak over Mahomes 3-4 times last year so it's probably fair to label him a little more then a backup but I get wanting to move him if you got Mahomes. I did finally move Dak, and it was cheaper then I like but this is FFPC but at least I got two seconds back. I just don't see how this does the guy any good.
Catbird
Footballguy
I wouldn't make the deal and don't think Tua has shown much of anything as a pro, but saying the best case for Tua isn't worth a 27 year old Dak seems a little too sure that 10 years of Tua can't possibly be worth more than the next 5 of Dak.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Boston
Footballguy
There can only be one reason...he thought it was a 2 QB league and pre-trade he only had 1 QB.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I think I'm actually more in agreement with you than maybe you have inferred. There is no surety on my part regarding Tua. Large range of outcomes. Forced to make a decision I would go with my original take here but no I am not sure about it. I am sure I would ask for more for Dak and not take this deal.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
FFPC SF not involved
Team A gave Godwin, Thielen
Team B gave Lamb, 2.08
Team A gave Godwin, Thielen
Team B gave Lamb, 2.08
