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45 minutes ago, barackdhouse said:

I have tempered expectations but you guys like him don't you?

I'm not that huge of a fan, but I'm also not a scout. I would have loved to have Sermon over him. In a heartbeat. The Jets seem like they like him. Like I've said elsewhere, it would not surprise me if they went dumpster diving after other teams' final cuts by picking off guys the other teams hope to have on their practice squads. Herbert is a guy they were rumored to have liked, and he's no guarantee to win a spot in Chicago. The guys in SF -- should one of them get cut -- are an option. The guys in Indy, whoever doesn't make it among Hines, Wilkins, Mack, Deon Jackson out of Duke, etc.

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3 hours ago, rockaction said:

If you click accept from MFL in our league in your email notifying you and giving you options, it accepts right away. So don't do it, Gally. I was stunned when it happened to me. Thankfully it was a trade I really wanted.

I didn't know that because like @Gally
said, I always go to the site.  But it's good to know.

 

1 hour ago, barackdhouse said:

I have tempered expectations but you guys like him don't you?

I don't like the jets as a whole.  Not as bad as Houston, but they're in the bottom of my offensive rankings.  I do think it's a bad trade for the Carter side, but I agree with the majority of the opinions that unless it's possible to prove collusion then you just have to let it slide.

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18 hours ago, Smokin Okie said:

Trade in my friends league: 12 Team PPR - 12 Keepers

 

Team A gets:
Zeke
2021 4th round pick

Team B gets:
Chase Edmonds
David Montgomery

Team B then immediately trades Monty in the following deal....

Team A gets:
Monty

Team B gets:
1.09
2.04

This seems light to me for Zeke personally.  I don't have him but no way I sell him for this without a good pick included.  I also don't think I'd trade Monty for 1.09 and 2.04 personally.  He probably isn't as good as last year but he is young and coming off of a RB4 season.  Nothing terrible but I'm not a big fan of either of these moves.

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17 hours ago, barackdhouse said:

FFPC

Team A gave Deebo, Kupp

Team B gave Carter, B Edwards, 2022 3rd

One other owner is protesting. Any thoughts?

I think this is terrible.  That 3rd should be a 1st at very minimum.  However, I don't view Deebo or Kupp as worth a 1st by themselves and Carter has gone at the back of the 1st in some of the drafts I have seen.  I don't think it is worthy of a protest but it is a very bad trade and Team A will ruin his team if he keeps making moves like this.

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2 hours ago, barackdhouse said:

One is a beast of a player that I like a lot but he is behind Kittle and although some disagree I think he is squarely behind Aiyuk, and that is only when he is actually playing.

Anyway it is a rebuilding team for me. I have been trying to move Kupp and/or Deebo in this league since February and the best I could get was 2.07 for Kupp and a future 2nd for Deebo. I have advertised them for several months so to any extent that complainer dude is upset he could have gotten them, or one of them, then he can sit and spin. Not going to hold other people's hands on these things. 

Which brings me to Carter. Best I could get is a couple 2nds for these two WRs but Carter just went 1.09 in this rookie draft. I literally ####### targeted late 1sts and got refused so now that I got the player equivalent it is somehow imbalanced? And I got Bryan Edwards who is basically a free throw-in but I like his outlook better than Deebo and what the hell I got a 3rd too.

I'm going to say one thing about Deebo and then I'll shut up.

His name is "Deebo".   Say it out loud and tell me it's not an amazing name worthy of at least seven first round picks. Anytime you don't respect the name your team is doomed.

 

Okay two things - in my league I've had offers for a mid 1st for my deebo and I have no interest in moving him. He's a beast (as you said) who gets designed runs in the redzone which you can't say about Kittle and Aiyuk, and definitely not Edwards.  He may not ever be a top 5 wr, but a few seasons of top 20 production is definitely in the offing.

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I'm with barack on Deebo but not to the extent of Bryan Edwards. No disrespect to the name "Deebo," I just get the feeling that he is indeed squarely behind Aiyuk in the grand scheme of things. Plus, if you believe in this sort of thing, he's oft-injured, or at least seems to be.

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46 minutes ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

I think this is terrible.  That 3rd should be a 1st at very minimum.  However, I don't view Deebo or Kupp as worth a 1st by themselves and Carter has gone at the back of the 1st in some of the drafts I have seen.  I don't think it is worthy of a protest but it is a very bad trade and Team A will ruin his team if he keeps making moves like this.

Lol ok. I tried to get late 1sts for those guys all offseason before the draft and nobody wanted to do it. Carter went 1.09 and now it is bad? Weird. This team is in full rebuild mode anyway. It is ok we usually disagree pretty strongly.

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39 minutes ago, wgoldsph said:

 

Okay two things - in my league I've had offers for a mid 1st for my deebo and I have no interest in moving him. He's a beast (as you said) who gets designed runs in the redzone which you can't say about Kittle and Aiyuk, and definitely not Edwards.  He may not ever be a top 5 wr, but a few seasons of top 20 production is definitely in the offing.

Nobody is offering a 1st for Deebo in this league. And top 20 production is ok but there a 100 WRs I can get to do that. This is a starting RB that is known for his pass catching skills on what should be an ascending offense. And this project rebuilding team had Lindsay as it's RB2 until now. I am really surprised people are that high on these two receivers.

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1 hour ago, rockaction said:

I'm with barack on Deebo but not to the extent of Bryan Edwards. No disrespect to the name "Deebo," I just get the feeling that he is indeed squarely behind Aiyuk in the grand scheme of things. Plus, if you believe in this sort of thing, he's oft-injured, or at least seems to be.

Disrespect taken.

Deeeeeebo

1 hour ago, barackdhouse said:

Nobody is offering a 1st for Deebo in this league. And top 20 production is ok but there a 100 WRs I can get to do that. This is a starting RB that is known for his pass catching skills on what should be an ascending offense. And this project rebuilding team had Lindsay as it's RB2 until now. I am really surprised people are that high on these two receivers.

Honestly, it sounds like you were trying to sell just to sell.  If Lindsey was your rb2 and from what I've extrapolated you don't think you're competing this year anyway, you were probably better served waiting for training camp and early season injuries to roll in before picking up next year 1sts from teams that get hit hard at wr.

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12 team IDP PPR 1.5 TE

Gage, 2.10, 3.11 and future 1st from the guy who won the league last year

for

CEH

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1 hour ago, Cobbler1 said:

CEH

 

1 hour ago, Blick said:

Unless it’s crazy IDP scoring, by a lot. 

 

22 minutes ago, rockaction said:

Yeah, I'm down on CEH and that seems like a good trade for the guy getting him.

Yes the trade was very bad value and the guy getting CEH is throwing parties.  The guy who traded up to get CEH last year gave up the 1.07 and a future 1st and 2nd and now gets back Gage, a projected playoff 1st and 2.10 and 3.11.

So a future 1st for future 1st call that a wash

1.07 where he could have landed a Swift or Akers last year at the 1.07 instead he gets the 2.10, 3.11 this year plus Gage.

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6 hours ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

I think this is terrible.  That 3rd should be a 1st at very minimum.  However, I don't view Deebo or Kupp as worth a 1st by themselves and Carter has gone at the back of the 1st in some of the drafts I have seen.  I don't think it is worthy of a protest but it is a very bad trade and Team A will ruin his team if he keeps making moves like this.

I don't quite get your comment. Carter is a first (1.09). And you think an additional first should be on that side. But you don't think Deebo or Kupp are worth a first by themselves. But you think the other side should include two firsts, which would make both Deebo and Kupp worth a first by themselves.

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9 hours ago, barackdhouse said:

And top 20 production is ok but there a 100 WRs I can get to do that.

I’m thinking there are 20 guys you can get to do that 

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16 hours ago, kutta said:

I don't quite get your comment. Carter is a first (1.09). And you think an additional first should be on that side. But you don't think Deebo or Kupp are worth a first by themselves. But you think the other side should include two firsts, which would make both Deebo and Kupp worth a first by themselves.

Not saying I view Carter as a first.  Just using that as context as to why this isn't protest worthy.  Edwards is worthless to me and a future 1st has less value than a 1st this year.  So Carter (a 2nd in my valuation) and a late future 1st seems about fair is what I'm saying.

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On 6/28/2021 at 1:21 PM, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Fair deal. Depends how one feels about LaViska. I like the kid. 

Sky is the limit. I think he becomes a fixture in the top 10 WR rankings going forward. This is last year you will get him at his current startup ADP (9th-10th round). I believe we will be seeing a lot of Lawrence to Shenault. 
I would not be able to click accept fast enough if I was offered Shenault for two future 2nds. 

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On 7/1/2021 at 11:16 AM, barackdhouse said:

Ok well thanks for the feedback everyone. I edited above but yes it was Bryan Edwards not Gus. It was only one owner that complained and so far nobody else has said anything so it looks like it will hold up. 

This was my trade (I'm sure people guessed as much) and I moved Deebo and Kupp. This is one of a couple crappier teams that I bought from DD. This gets to the question some of us have talked about recently about the emotional investment, or perceived investment, into a given player. I had zero investment in either because I bought this team as-is. These are both do not draft guys for me. One is a beast of a player that I like a lot but he is behind Kittle and although some disagree I think he is squarely behind Aiyuk, and that is only when he is actually playing. Kupp has shown the ability to score elite FPs but his health is an even bigger concern to me.

Anyway it is a rebuilding team for me. I have been trying to move Kupp and/or Deebo in this league since February and the best I could get was 2.07 for Kupp and a future 2nd for Deebo. I have advertised them for several months so to any extent that complainer dude is upset he could have gotten them, or one of them, then he can sit and spin. Not going to hold other people's hands on these things. 

Which brings me to Carter. Best I could get is a couple 2nds for these two WRs but Carter just went 1.09 in this rookie draft. I literally ####### targeted late 1sts and got refused so now that I got the player equivalent it is somehow imbalanced? And I got Bryan Edwards who is basically a free throw-in but I like his outlook better than Deebo and what the hell I got a 3rd too. I saw on the calcs that this is lopsided against me and I'm a little blown away by that.

I think the TLDR take home here is that right now Carter is eggregiously undervalued by calcs and at least some of the FF community. 

Had I known it was you and B. Edwards not Gus, I would have described the trade with a nicer word than horrendous, perhaps stinky would have been more appropriate 😉 Props to you for putting an against the consensus trade of yours out there for people to critique. 

Firm believer that trades need context and a bit of a setup to leave the rebuild out. I viewed the trade as who do I want this year and next and for me that is easily Kupp & Deebo. However, being in full rebuild mode, your 10k Suns like burning hatred of Kupp & Deebo plus startup adp probably makes it closer than I thought at first glance.

I'm obviously much higher on Kupp, but seems fair to say you were in too much of a hurry to sell Kupp. The time to sell a player like Kupp is in season, not July. If he starts out hot you could have gotten more for him and quite possibly a first. From everything I have read Kupp is feeling really good and while his injuries make him a little risky, day 3 rbs are risky too. Fwiw, I like Deebo (yes he is behind Aityuk) and I like Edwards (who hasn't done anything yet), but i'm not high on Carter (day 3 rb who could be big, but could easily bust). All good my man, I do admit it might be closer than I first thought but still don't like it and think you probably should have at least waited.
 

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On 6/28/2021 at 11:19 PM, wgoldsph said:

Two things -

Shenault is the kind of player who needs a nickname.  I just can't think of a good one.

I agree with the sentiment that he's worth more on your roster than he is in a trade.  There's too many unknown factors that could play into him becoming the next big thing, or a jag.  Either way, you're playing Deal or No Deal and the banker is never going to offer you the million your case might contain.

I pray Chris Berman isn’t given the opportunity.

Break out the new look Jacksonville  JAGWHYYYZZZZZBURPFARTSQUISH

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8 minutes ago, barackdhouse said:

118 WRs put up a top 24 week last year. It is probably about a 100 that had top 20.

One could play in best ball leagues, but most people are referring to the season when they say "Top 20 production".

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2 hours ago, NE_REVIVAL said:

you probably should have at least waited.
 

I don't like keeping timebombs on my roster but I have had discussions and really bad offers for Kupp since February. I *did* wait. I don't see people making inseason moves involving paying their 1sts more than *maybe* one or two times per league per season. Those deals don't just fall out of the sky. They are relatively rare and the odds that Kupp is *the* piece somebody feels they want is ridiculously absurdly unlikely. Waiting comes with a really, really risky downside that both those assets become untradable cloggers.

Again I think the big disconnect is that Carter apparently has a polarizing value in the community. I didn't expect him to be so hated and I admit I clearly could have gotten more value. But in my eyes I've got Carter and Kupp as roughly equal and then it is Deebo, who I don't believe in, for Edwards who I do a little bit but is clearly worth less. So I got a 3rd to balance it a little and I was thinking to myself ok I paid a small premium to get a starting RB and another WR5 or WR6 that I can afford to develop but I'm not depending on any more than the previous one that has Kittle and Aiyuk in front in a run first offense. Last I checked starting rookie RBs typically come with a premium. In Carter's case the day 3 thing doesn't bother me. And if he flashes maybe *he* is the one to sell inseason. 

Anyway last thought I swear to you at least half of the FFPC owners in my leagues will never trade for a player over 26. Moving Kupp was already threading an incredibly small needle. And Deebo just isn't coveted by many.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, DropKick said:

One could play in best ball leagues, but most people are referring to the season when they say "Top 20 production".

Right but in my season long leagues I choose and compete one week at a time. Like everyone else. Top 20 doesn't win leagues. It doesn't lose you leagues either but it isn't a high bar. 

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28 minutes ago, barackdhouse said:

I don't like keeping timebombs on my roster but I have had discussions and really bad offers for Kupp since February. I *did* wait. I don't see people making inseason moves involving paying their 1sts more than *maybe* one or two times per league per season. Those deals don't just fall out of the sky. They are relatively rare and the odds that Kupp is *the* piece somebody feels they want is ridiculously absurdly unlikely. Waiting comes with a really, really risky downside that both those assets become untradable cloggers.

Again I think the big disconnect is that Carter apparently has a polarizing value in the community. I didn't expect him to be so hated and I admit I clearly could have gotten more value. But in my eyes I've got Carter and Kupp as roughly equal and then it is Deebo, who I don't believe in, for Edwards who I do a little bit but is clearly worth less. So I got a 3rd to balance it a little and I was thinking to myself ok I paid a small premium to get a starting RB and another WR5 or WR6 that I can afford to develop but I'm not depending on any more than the previous one that has Kittle and Aiyuk in front in a run first offense. Last I checked starting rookie RBs typically come with a premium. In Carter's case the day 3 thing doesn't bother me. And if he flashes maybe *he* is the one to sell inseason. 

Anyway last thought I swear to you at least half of the FFPC owners in my leagues will never trade for a player over 26. Moving Kupp was already threading an incredibly small needle. And Deebo just isn't coveted by many.

Bottom line is you targeted the guy you wanted, was willing to pay the price and are satisfied with your side of the deal.

It's why we play the game.

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10 hours ago, barackdhouse said:

Right but in my season long leagues I choose and compete one week at a time. Like everyone else. Top 20 doesn't win leagues. It doesn't lose you leagues either but it isn't a high bar. 

I disagree there.  If all three of your starting wrs end the season as top 20 in a league of 12, you basically cover the wr1/2 boarder.

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58 minutes ago, wgoldsph said:

I disagree there.  If all three of your starting wrs end the season as top 20 in a league of 12, you basically cover the wr1/2 boarder.

Depends on what the rest of your team looks like, too. If you have three top-20 WR’s but you have two top-5 RB’s and a top-5 QB, you’re going to be just fine. 

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2 hours ago, wgoldsph said:

I disagree there.  If all three of your starting wrs end the season as top 20 in a league of 12, you basically cover the wr1/2 boarder.

Sure but I thought the obsession here was to think of these things in vacuums. If we're going to bring context into it, I went from the production of Kupp in either my WR2 spot or flex to the production of my next WR up (looking at choice between Viska, Pittman, Gabriel, T Marshall and a couple others I like) which is admittedly a downgrade in FPs (call it ~2-5 per week) and arguably nil if/when one of my guys emerges, but meanwhile I get Carter in my RB2 spot and probably increased my production in that spot by about 10 FPs per week. Because I was going to be taking zeros there. And even the overall WR1 won't help me win #### if I'm putting up zeros at RB. Kupp is going to be closer to WR20 than WR1. And this team isn't going to be winning this year most likely anyway. 

But yeah having three top 20 WRs is great, having three top 10 is even better. And a tall order but if we're only calling them top 20 and not top 10 then are those guys really going to be top 20 again next year? Are they locks? I will find more of them when I cross the street later and say "oh wow there is *another* WR I didn't even see over there that is startable." 

Anyway, all done now. Lol. I might point out that I have put out similar offers for Carter in several other leagues over the last few days and most have been RNC but a few have pointed out just how big they are on Carter and that they expect him to have the main role day 1. 

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13 hours ago, barackdhouse said:

I don't like keeping timebombs on my roster but I have had discussions and really bad offers for Kupp since February. I *did* wait. I don't see people making inseason moves involving paying their 1sts more than *maybe* one or two times per league per season. Those deals don't just fall out of the sky. They are relatively rare and the odds that Kupp is *the* piece somebody feels they want is ridiculously absurdly unlikely. Waiting comes with a really, really risky downside that both those assets become untradable cloggers.

Again I think the big disconnect is that Carter apparently has a polarizing value in the community. I didn't expect him to be so hated and I admit I clearly could have gotten more value. But in my eyes I've got Carter and Kupp as roughly equal and then it is Deebo, who I don't believe in, for Edwards who I do a little bit but is clearly worth less. So I got a 3rd to balance it a little and I was thinking to myself ok I paid a small premium to get a starting RB and another WR5 or WR6 that I can afford to develop but I'm not depending on any more than the previous one that has Kittle and Aiyuk in front in a run first offense. Last I checked starting rookie RBs typically come with a premium. In Carter's case the day 3 thing doesn't bother me. And if he flashes maybe *he* is the one to sell inseason. 

Anyway last thought I swear to you at least half of the FFPC owners in my leagues will never trade for a player over 26. Moving Kupp was already threading an incredibly small needle. And Deebo just isn't coveted by many.

 

 

When I said wait, I said you could likely have gotten more for him in season and don't feel that is controversial; however I don't view Kupp as a timebomb and feel he is going to have a HUGE yr. So we are polar opposites there.

I don't hate Carter at all, I view him as a 4th rd RB who could be really good or meh. He could be all that and a bag of chips, I have no idea. I don't feel strongly about him one way or the other but considering your love of him I am now reconsidering my indifference, moving him up the ranks and will never speak ill of the man again😉 

Its all good, as DK said, you went out and got your guys so nothing wrong with that.  

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On 7/1/2021 at 11:18 AM, barackdhouse said:

Then I woke up to another accepted offer. I am actively targeting Carter right now. 

FFPC - 1QB

I gave R Wilson, Boyd
I got Carter, Winston, 2022 2nd

 

Seems fair enough. Carter has to hit obviously but in 1 QB Wilson isn't super important and Boyd, while I still like him, obviously took a big hit with Chase/Higgins as the probable 1/2. His ceiling seems capped for the immediate future. Like you getting a 2nd as well. 

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12 team PPR (1.25 TE) blockbuster

All the picks are from the runner up team last year

Henry Ruggs

2.11

2022 1st round pick

2022 2nd round pick

2022 3rd round pick

2023 1st round pick

For 

CMC

2022 4th round pick

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8 minutes ago, Dez said:

12 team PPR (1.25 TE) blockbuster

All the picks are from the runner up team last year

Henry Ruggs

2.11

2022 1st round pick

2022 2nd round pick

2022 3rd round pick

2023 1st round pick

For 

CMC

2022 4th round pick

Not enough for CMC, in my opinion. 

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1 hour ago, Dez said:

12 team PPR (1.25 TE) blockbuster

All the picks are from the runner up team last year

Henry Ruggs

2.11

2022 1st round pick

2022 2nd round pick

2022 3rd round pick

2023 1st round pick

For 

CMC

2022 4th round pick

Not even close

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2 hours ago, Andy Dufresne said:

How about if the future 4th was taken out? :lol:

 

“Ugh, I don’t know. I’m giving up a whole lotta picks here just for just one player.” “I’ll throw in a future 4th rounder.” “Sucker. Works every time.” 

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2 hours ago, JoeJoe88 said:

“Ugh, I don’t know. I’m giving up a whole lotta picks here just for just one player.” “I’ll throw in a future 4th rounder.” “Sucker. Works every time.” 

Was pretty much the key to me making the trade I needed that 4th !

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9 hours ago, Dez said:

12 team PPR (1.25 TE) blockbuster

All the picks are from the runner up team last year

Henry Ruggs

2.11

2022 1st round pick

2022 2nd round pick

2022 3rd round pick

2023 1st round pick

For 

CMC

2022 4th round pick

That’s not a blockbuster, that’s a rape job.

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2 hours ago, Born to Run said:

FFPC 12 Team SF

gave:

Jakobi Meyers

 

got:

Denzel Mims

 

I like

Mims

upside in a (hopefully) ascending offense.  

 

I'm pessimistic about Mim's upside with Davis, Moore and Crowder all probably ahead of him on the depth chart (although I did like his talent coming out of college).  I'd take him over Meyers though.  It's worth a gamble at that price.

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On 7/3/2021 at 1:29 PM, Dez said:

12 team PPR (1.25 TE) blockbuster

All the picks are from the runner up team last year

Henry Ruggs

2.11

2022 1st round pick

2022 2nd round pick

2022 3rd round pick

2023 1st round pick

For 

CMC

2022 4th round pick

I offered him pick 8 this year and two 2022 1sts.  I guess he liked this so much more he wouldn't even counter my offer.

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On 6/13/2021 at 3:11 AM, sushinsky4tsar said:

One of my top competitors in 1/2 PPR, 1QB dynasty offered:

 

Raegor, Gus Edwards, 2022 1st, 2023 1st 

-for- 

Ju Jones, Singletary, Hurts

 

Well this one kind of got dragged out.   I'm not sure that this is an upgrade, but the trade now stands at:

IN:   K. Hunt, 2022 1st, 2023 1st    -- the picks are likely late, some upside for 6-8 range

OUT:   Ju Jones, Singletary, Hurts, 2022 2nd, 2023 2nd, 3.12    -- feel good about the 2nds being late

 

I didn't smash accept the original as some suggested due to Empire nature of the league.   When someone repeats, the league ends.   Mathematically, I'm forecasting that the league that will last 4 to 5 years.  Current champ is somewhat weak as champs go, but probably has 8:1 odds.

I think I'm in on this version.   Hunt as an RB3 will really solidify my backfield.   Gus Bus and Reagor have value, but there was some potential roster cloggage with those pieces.   AJB and Godwin are my WR1/W2.   With Jones departing, options for my one flex spot will be:  Tee Higgins/Sutton/OBJ/Hunt/Ant Brown/Goedert.  Hold the 2.4 and I'm not expecting to get Sermon or Carter.   BPA will probably be a WR, or Fields to replace Hurts as my backup to Mahomes  (1QB).   

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On 7/3/2021 at 11:05 PM, Buckna said:

That’s not a blockbuster, that’s a rape job.

Man I sure hope your right because you know what about this board is I have made 4 other block busters and every time was told I ripped off the other guy and every single team you guys have been totally wrong and I got it stuck up the wazzu.  They always seem like slam dunks at the time and yes I pray I get 3 stud years out of CMC and yes those picks are likely "late" but you know who went late last year in picks in this league ?  Justin Jefferson went at the 1.10 and Antonio Gibson went at the 2.04.  Them some good late picks.

Here are the 4 other deals I made over the years that each one I was told how bad I ripped other guy off and not only did none work out for me they all ended pretty badly within a year or two.

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South Carolina gave up Ajayi, Jay MIA RB; Parker, DeVante MIA WR

Charlotte gave up Chandler, Scott FA TE; Year 2016 Draft Pick 1.06; Year 2016 Draft Pick 1.10

Wed May 4 4:35:34 p.m. ET 2016 (I would have landed Michael Thomas at the 1.10)

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Puerto Rico gave up Foles, Nick PHI QB

Charlotte gave up Gerhart, Toby JAC RB; Robinson, Adrien NYG TE; Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.12; Year 2016 Round 3 Draft Pick from Charlotte

Wed Apr 23 8:09:08 p.m. ET 2014 (Remember when Foles was the new hot QB after a 27 TD 2 INT season ?  Ya me either but that 1.12 would been Beckham)

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Puerto Rico gave up Richardson, Trent IND RB

Charlotte gave up Mathews, Ryan SDC RB; Powell, Bilal NYJ RB; Bullock, Randy HOU PK; Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Charlotte; Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Charlotte; Year 2015 Round 3 Draft Pick from Las Vegas

Thu Sep 26 6:29:29 p.m. ET 2013 (Oh boy this one most of all everyone said I ripped that guy off well we know what happened with good ole Trent)

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Puerto Rico gave up Vereen, Shane NEP RB; Cruz, Victor NYG WR

Charlotte gave up Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.01; Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.05; Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.12

Sat Jul 20 5:02:38 p.m. ET 2013 (And this one I said people in my league say that would quit the league if I did another trade like this giving up "only 1 pick" for Cruz (umm that was the #1 pick folks) and well Cruz had 1 good year for me then got injured and fell off face of the earth.

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So ya this trade is great for me but so were the other 4 and they all flopped........CMC is a different animal and I love the trade because it is my only way to try and compete vs the super team that beat me by 80 pts in the championship last year but the history of luck in trades like this is not on my side.

So I pray for once you guys are right because you are all 0 for 4 so far over the past 8 years.

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20 minutes ago, osiriskid said:

12 team SF 

Team A: gets 1.02 

Team B: gets Justin Jefferson

Team B is weak at QB. 

 

That’s probably a little light for Jefferson even in SF, but it’s not egregious. 

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On 7/4/2021 at 6:17 PM, smbkrypt24 said:

12 team PPR. 1 QB.  Short bench league.

Team A gave: E. Ebron, 1.04

Team B gave: G. Kittle

Seems like a bargain for Kittle in pretty much every format. I don’t see how 1.04 got this done, but kudos to team A for pulling it off.

Even if team B picks Pitts at 4, it doesn’t make sense to me. 

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