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Gave fuller and a 23 second for aiyuk. Don't start fuller and felt aiyuk was worth gambling on

 

Different league, im rebuilding, was offered waddle and Elijah Moore for deebo. Mind you I got deebo from this same owner for 2.07 two months ago. Felt like right time to sell deebo

 

 

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21 hours ago, iamkoza said:

Gave fuller and a 23 second for aiyuk. Don't start fuller and felt aiyuk was worth gambling on

 

Different league, im rebuilding, was offered waddle and Elijah Moore for deebo. Mind you I got deebo from this same owner for 2.07 two months ago. Felt like right time to sell deebo

 

 

Welp.  I'm a big Deebo guy but I can't fault you for turning him (or 2.07) into two 1st round rookie wrs.

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On 9/24/2021 at 2:37 PM, wgoldsph said:

Finally made my first in-season trade

I give - 4% total cap space, 5th round pick

I get - 2nd probably late

 

Making big moves!

 

You’re going to look back and lament that 4%.

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Here's an interesting team makeover. The week the season started, I took over a 12-team dynasty SF PPR TE 1.25 team that went winless last season. Here's 10 trades I've made since Sept. 9 that I hope will take it from worst to first.

Team started with ...

QB: Burrow, Lawrence, Tua, Winston/Hill, Heinicke
RB: Chubb, Mixon, Hines, Cohen/Damien Williams, Tony Jones, Kelley, Mack, Bell
WR: Davonta Smith, MT, Nico Collins, Parker, Hamler, AJG, Pascal, R. Higgins
TE: Fant, Cook

Picks: Regular team-earned

You start 3 WR and 3 regular flex in this league, so I was really hurting at WR. I took the team because I had never played SF before and thought I had two young ones to build around plus some ammo for other moves.

10 trades in order

Week 1

1) Chubb and Tua for Najee, Pittman, 2022 1st, two 2022 3rds

2) MT, Winston and a 2022 3rd for DJM, Singletary and a 2022 2nd

3) Fant and a 2022 3rd for Gesicki and two 2022 2nds

4) Mixon for Waddle and a 2022 1st (late)

Week 2

5) Gesicki and Pascal for Higbee

6) Pittman and a 2022 2nd for Deebo

7) 2022 1st (late), two 2022 2nd, Heinicke, Hines, Hamler, Njoku, Sherfield for CEH, ARob, Boyd, Jamaal Williams, Renfrow

Week 3

8 ) Higbee and 2023 2nd for Mike Williams

9) CEH, 2022 1st (hopefully late), 2022 2nd, Nico Collins for Kamara

10) DeVonta, Waddle, 2022 1st, 2023 1st, 2024 1st (all hopefully late) for DK, Higgins, Kittle, Moss

Certainly not all of these trades are home runs. Some might be blunders.

But my team now is ...

QB: Burrow, Lawrence, Hill/Book
RB: Kamara, Najee, Jamaal, Singletary/Moss, Tony Jones, Felton, Cohen
WR: DK, DJM, Mike Williams, ARob, Samuel, Higgins, Boyd, Renfrow, AJG, Washington
TE: Kittle, Cook
Picks: Traded away 1st and 2nd in 2022, 2023, and 1st in 2024
 

Got a lot more depth now in a league where it is needed. Won't have the picks to help me fix any issues the next couple years. But I did trade for a lot of young players who will still be in their primes in 2024. Obviously I either need to trade Lawrence for a QB who is ready to win now or trade for short-term solution for this year who will allow me to wait on him. I'm thinking this could be my best work every in fantasy football if I can complete this quick turnaround.

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FFPC $500 Dynasty League Trade:

Traded:

RB, J.K. Dobbins
WR, Brandon Aiyuk SF
WR, Kadarius Toney
TE, Juwan Johnson
TE, Gerald Everett 

Received:

WR, Cooper Kupp
WR, Mike Williams
WR, Odell Beckham
RB, Zack Moss

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On 9/25/2021 at 11:45 AM, iamkoza said:

Gave fuller and a 23 second for aiyuk. Don't start fuller and felt aiyuk was worth gambling on

 

I wish I could get that for Fuller. I can’t give the dude away.  Great deal. 

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10 hours ago, Shrugs said:

Here's an interesting team makeover. The week the season started, I took over a 12-team dynasty SF PPR TE 1.25 team that went winless last season. Here's 10 trades I've made since Sept. 9 that I hope will take it from worst to first.

Team started with ...

QB: Burrow, Lawrence, Tua, Winston/Hill, Heinicke
RB: Chubb, Mixon, Hines, Cohen/Damien Williams, Tony Jones, Kelley, Mack, Bell
WR: Davonta Smith, MT, Nico Collins, Parker, Hamler, AJG, Pascal, R. Higgins
TE: Fant, Cook

Picks: Regular team-earned

You start 3 WR and 3 regular flex in this league, so I was really hurting at WR. I took the team because I had never played SF before and thought I had two young ones to build around plus some ammo for other moves.

10 trades in order

Week 1

1) Chubb and Tua for Najee, Pittman, 2022 1st, two 2022 3rds

2) MT, Winston and a 2022 3rd for DJM, Singletary and a 2022 2nd

3) Fant and a 2022 3rd for Gesicki and two 2022 2nds

4) Mixon for Waddle and a 2022 1st (late)

Week 2

5) Gesicki and Pascal for Higbee

6) Pittman and a 2022 2nd for Deebo

7) 2022 1st (late), two 2022 2nd, Heinicke, Hines, Hamler, Njoku, Sherfield for CEH, ARob, Boyd, Jamaal Williams, Renfrow

Week 3

8 ) Higbee and 2023 2nd for Mike Williams

9) CEH, 2022 1st (hopefully late), 2022 2nd, Nico Collins for Kamara

10) DeVonta, Waddle, 2022 1st, 2023 1st, 2024 1st (all hopefully late) for DK, Higgins, Kittle, Moss

Certainly not all of these trades are home runs. Some might be blunders.

But my team now is ...

QB: Burrow, Lawrence, Hill/Book
RB: Kamara, Najee, Jamaal, Singletary/Moss, Tony Jones, Felton, Cohen
WR: DK, DJM, Mike Williams, ARob, Samuel, Higgins, Boyd, Renfrow, AJG, Washington
TE: Kittle, Cook
Picks: Traded away 1st and 2nd in 2022, 2023, and 1st in 2024
 

Got a lot more depth now in a league where it is needed. Won't have the picks to help me fix any issues the next couple years. But I did trade for a lot of young players who will still be in their primes in 2024. Obviously I either need to trade Lawrence for a QB who is ready to win now or trade for short-term solution for this year who will allow me to wait on him. I'm thinking this could be my best work every in fantasy football if I can complete this quick turnaround.

Gutsy moves, as it really hinges on Burrow and Lawrence staying healthy and putting up good numbers.  You won't be able to draft another reasonable QB till 2025.  

Looks considerably better now than it did before, but again, you traded away significant draft capital in doing so.

 

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4 hours ago, Tejas said:

FFPC $500 Dynasty League Trade:

Traded:

RB, J.K. Dobbins
WR, Brandon Aiyuk SF
WR, Kadarius Toney
TE, Juwan Johnson
TE, Gerald Everett 

Received:

WR, Cooper Kupp
WR, Mike Williams
WR, Odell Beckham
RB, Zack Moss

I feel like I’m really missing something because I’m all over the Kupp side here.

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17 hours ago, Gally said:

I little deal just went down in a Zealots PPR league between @rockactionand myself.  I won't say which side is which

 

Full IDP, PPR, 1QB/2RB/TE/3WR/2Flex

 

AJ Brown & Hewitt

for

Godwin, Ruggs, likely early 2022 3rd rounder

 

What side do you prefer?

 

 

I really like AJ Brown, but I think I would take the Godwin side. I didn't think Ruggs would do much with LV, but he is doing alright this season. The early 3rd is still valuable in Zealots. Hewitt is JAG. So, I'll take Godwin, Ruggs and the 3rd. Ruggs and the 3rd more than make up for the tier difference between Brown and Godwin.

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16 minutes ago, northern exposure said:

I really like AJ Brown, but I think I would take the Godwin side. I didn't think Ruggs would do much with LV, but he is doing alright this season. The early 3rd is still valuable in Zealots. Hewitt is JAG. So, I'll take Godwin, Ruggs and the 3rd. Ruggs and the 3rd more than make up for the tier difference between Brown and Godwin.


NO U R RONG AND A POOPYHEAD U LIKE BROWN SIDE BETTER.

SIGNDED, GUY WHO IS TOTALLY ANONYMOUS ABOUT WHOSE SIDE HE IS ON.

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Bump for opinions about the aforementioned trade. Half of the reason I play this darn game is for talking about it in the forums. Can't stand to have such a big trade not debated.

Weigh in! Tell me my team stinks like microwaved fish!

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19 hours ago, Gally said:

I little deal just went down in a Zealots PPR league between @rockactionand myself.  I won't say which side is which

 

Full IDP, PPR, 1QB/2RB/TE/3WR/2Flex

 

AJ Brown & Hewitt

for

Godwin, Ruggs, likely early 2022 3rd rounder

 

What side do you prefer?

 

 

Personally I'm not an AJBrown truther...he's good no doubt but I don't have him as a top 5 dynasty WR like so many others, so I like the Godwin/Ruggs side with the pick. 

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6 hours ago, wlwiles said:

Personally I'm not an AJBrown truther...he's good no doubt but I don't have him as a top 5 dynasty WR like so many others, so I like the Godwin/Ruggs side with the pick. 

 

I am an AJB truther so I would take his side pretty easily but I understand the sentiment. 

I do think AJB is a great buy right now. 

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29 minutes ago, FreeBaGeL said:

 

I am an AJB truther so I would take his side pretty easily but I understand the sentiment. 

I do think AJB is a great buy right now. 

I also own AJB, but can see the Godwin side being favored. I'm on the fence myself. I'm trying to move on from AJB right now.

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I think in the interest of debate I'll give a little bit of a glimpse into our mindset for the deal. Maybe people will see fit to comment more. Thanks, guys -- FreeBaGel, northern exposure, wlwiles, and Helaire-ious for your comments. Always nice to read people assessing the deal.

Hewitt, by the way, is just there to make the pieces even for roster legality. He's a surefire cut when somebody useful comes along.

Gally and I are apparently down on all the guys in the deal.

My own assessment is as follows: Godwin is not long for Tampa because of contracts and numbers, earns his points in motion and away from press, needs plays designed for him, rounds his routes from what I see, and isn't Brady's first look. He's also an excellent receiver and one of my favorite all-around players. Problem is, you don't get fantasy points for getting the trenches and being a team and good guy.

Ruggs, in my estimation, doesn't adjust on the fly yet to what Carr wants to do, is slight and can get bumped off of the ball at a moment's notice, and is generally Carr's third or fourth look unless there is a designed deep ball for him. He also just seems frail out there comparatively, and has gone down at least two or three times that I've seen over the past year from average hits. Ruggs is also a guy I pull for, and hope to see excel because I drafted him at 1.06 last year in our rookie draft, over guys like Jefferson and Jeudy.

The problem with Brown that I see is that he's now got Jones to compete for volume, Henry is the 1a and 1b of that offense, and he comes down with injuries to his knees and now his hamstrings, things that are likely accompanying the off-season knee procedure. He's ranked really highly, but I'm not sure he should be that high.

So it's really what the teams need. I need a guy that can be the man in a year, something I don't think Godwin or Ruggs can be. Gally needed depth at WR and probably thinks higher of those two than I do. I think Brown has a shot at being the man in an offense.

So it's not like we tore apart keyboards and spit vituperations and hard sells to get this deal done. It was totally cordial, and rather easy considering it was such a big deal in terms of the quality and number of players involved. It began with a general conversation, turned to specifics, and then was pretty easy in negotiation in the end. I feel like I gave up a lot, but so did Gally, really.

I'm on the Brown side, by the way. I didn't like the deal as much considering how Ruggs has played the past two weeks, but I think that we gave up and got fair value for our respective teams. I needed to have a shot at excellence at the positions. I think Gally needed starting depth at WR (We start 1-5 RB, 2-5 WR, 1-5 TE, but it has to be eight of those). And that's my side of the story. I'll let Gally tell his.

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23 minutes ago, rockaction said:

I think in the interest of debate I'll give a little bit of a glimpse into our mindset for the deal. Maybe people will see fit to comment more. Thanks, guys -- FreeBaGel, northern exposure, wlwiles, and Helaire-ious for your comments. Always nice to read people assessing the deal.

Hewitt, by the way, is just there to make the pieces even for roster legality. He's a surefire cut when somebody useful comes along.

Gally and I are apparently down on all the guys in the deal.

My own assessment is as follows: Godwin is not long for Tampa because of contracts and numbers, earns his points in motion and away from press, needs plays designed for him, rounds his routes from what I see, and isn't Brady's first look. He's also an excellent receiver and one of my favorite all-around players. Problem is, you don't get fantasy points for getting the trenches and being a team and good guy.

Ruggs, in my estimation, doesn't adjust on the fly yet to what Carr wants to do, is slight and can get bumped off of the ball at a moment's notice, and is generally Carr's third or fourth look unless there is a designed deep ball for him. He also just seems frail out there comparatively, and has gone down at least two or three times that I've seen over the past year from average hits. Ruggs is also a guy I pull for, and hope to see excel because I drafted him at 1.06 last year in our rookie draft, over guys like Jefferson and Jeudy.

The problem with Brown that I see is that he's now got Jones to compete for volume, Henry is the 1a and 1b of that offense, and he comes down with injuries to his knees and now his hamstrings, things that are likely accompanying the off-season knee procedure. He's ranked really highly, but I'm not sure he should be that high.

So it's really what the teams need. I need a guy that can be the man in a year, something I don't think Godwin or Ruggs can be. Gally needed depth at WR and probably thinks higher of those two than I do. I think Brown has a shot at being the man in an offense.

So it's not like we tore apart keyboards and spit vituperations and hard sells to get this deal done. It was totally cordial, and rather easy considering it was such a big deal in terms of the quality and number of players involved. It began with a general conversation, turned to specifics, and then was pretty easy in negotiation in the end. I feel like I gave up a lot, but so did Gally, really.

I'm on the Brown side, by the way. I didn't like the deal as much considering how Ruggs has played the past two weeks, but I think that we gave up and got fair value for our respective teams. I needed to have a shot at excellence at the positions. I think Gally needed starting depth at WR (We start 1-5 RB, 2-5 WR, 1-5 TE, but it has to be eight of those). And that's my side of the story. I'll let Gally tell his.

Very fair deal & both sides make sense. We all value players differently and also have different roster needs and scoring formats. As an AJB owner, I'm not sure if I'd ship him for that, but I see no issues with it. I actually turned down a nice offer that I may regret if my counter is declined. However, I might just offer them the same deal they sent me & hope they still wanna do it LOL. FWIW, the offer was their Aaron Jones, Kelce & Scary Terry for my Sutton, AJB, Zeke & Goedert (Dynasty PPR). I felt that having AJB AND Sutton was better than just Terry. We have a couple flex spots. Not Superflex.

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2 hours ago, rockaction said:

The problem with Brown that I see is that he's now got Jones to compete for volume, Henry is the 1a and 1b of that offense, and he comes down with injuries to his knees and now his hamstrings, things that are likely accompanying the off-season knee procedure. He's ranked really highly, but I'm not sure he should be that high.

 

Henry and Julio are aging temporary roadblocks and AJB has done well with Henry being the focus so far.

I've always said, since he first entered the league, that the guy AJB reminded me of was a young Julio.  Now that continues right on down to the injury issues as Julio's early career was plagued by lingering foot issues that seemed like they were never going to go away.

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Pretty big one went down tonight. I am involved. 
 

14 team .5 PPR

Gave: Tyreek, Dobbins, Singletary, 2022 2nd

Received: Jonathan Taylor, Deebo, 2023 1st, 2024 1st

I'm very strong at WR (Notables: Godwin, Cooper, OBJ, Chark) and weak at RB (Notables: James Robinson, Hines, L. Murray)

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9 hours ago, NDyse10 said:

Pretty big one went down tonight. I am involved. 
 

14 team .5 PPR

Gave: Tyreek, Dobbins, Singletary, 2022 2nd

Received: Jonathan Taylor, Deebo, 2023 1st, 2024 1st

I'm very strong at WR (Notables: Godwin, Cooper, OBJ, Chark) and weak at RB (Notables: James Robinson, Hines, L. Murray)

I might have tried for a RB other than JT for Hill, but not a bad deal for either side

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11 hours ago, rockaction said:

I think in the interest of debate I'll give a little bit of a glimpse into our mindset for the deal. Maybe people will see fit to comment more. Thanks, guys -- FreeBaGel, northern exposure, wlwiles, and Helaire-ious for your comments. Always nice to read people assessing the deal.

Hewitt, by the way, is just there to make the pieces even for roster legality. He's a surefire cut when somebody useful comes along.

Gally and I are apparently down on all the guys in the deal.

My own assessment is as follows: Godwin is not long for Tampa because of contracts and numbers, earns his points in motion and away from press, needs plays designed for him, rounds his routes from what I see, and isn't Brady's first look. He's also an excellent receiver and one of my favorite all-around players. Problem is, you don't get fantasy points for getting the trenches and being a team and good guy.

Ruggs, in my estimation, doesn't adjust on the fly yet to what Carr wants to do, is slight and can get bumped off of the ball at a moment's notice, and is generally Carr's third or fourth look unless there is a designed deep ball for him. He also just seems frail out there comparatively, and has gone down at least two or three times that I've seen over the past year from average hits. Ruggs is also a guy I pull for, and hope to see excel because I drafted him at 1.06 last year in our rookie draft, over guys like Jefferson and Jeudy.

The problem with Brown that I see is that he's now got Jones to compete for volume, Henry is the 1a and 1b of that offense, and he comes down with injuries to his knees and now his hamstrings, things that are likely accompanying the off-season knee procedure. He's ranked really highly, but I'm not sure he should be that high.

So it's really what the teams need. I need a guy that can be the man in a year, something I don't think Godwin or Ruggs can be. Gally needed depth at WR and probably thinks higher of those two than I do. I think Brown has a shot at being the man in an offense.

So it's not like we tore apart keyboards and spit vituperations and hard sells to get this deal done. It was totally cordial, and rather easy considering it was such a big deal in terms of the quality and number of players involved. It began with a general conversation, turned to specifics, and then was pretty easy in negotiation in the end. I feel like I gave up a lot, but so did Gally, really.

I'm on the Brown side, by the way. I didn't like the deal as much considering how Ruggs has played the past two weeks, but I think that we gave up and got fair value for our respective teams. I needed to have a shot at excellence at the positions. I think Gally needed starting depth at WR (We start 1-5 RB, 2-5 WR, 1-5 TE, but it has to be eight of those). And that's my side of the story. I'll let Gally tell his.

 

Ok time for my side......

 

I have been losing players due to injury over the last couple weeks.  This week I lost James White (PPR so he actually has been decent this year) and AJ Brown (for who knows how long).  With nothing serviceable on the waiver wire I was down to having to play the likes of Allen Lazard, Byron Pringle, and Cedric Wilson for my flex spots. It is getting pretty dire.

 

I inquired about Ruggs since he is rock's Wr6 or 7 thinking I could at least get a guy that has some upside potential for a draft pick unfortunately I didn't have the 2nd rounder he was looking for.  Discussions circled around and the idea of AJ Brown and Godwin getting involved developed.  I am not a big believer in AJ Brown (usage), Godwin (too many mouths to feed) or Ruggs (hadn't showed much going into the year) so it really was a weird direction for me.  Once I thought about it a bit I don't really see much difference in Brown and Godwin (and Godwin is healthy) so getting another starter (for me) in Ruggs and an early 3rd seemed like a no brainer to accept.  

 

Another factor is I typically look at players in 2 yr increments for dynasty because too many things can happen for anything further out than that so even though I like Brown better long term for NFL purposes it really doesn't matter to me for fantasy purposes.  Bottom line I saw this as Brown and Godwin being essentially equal and a free Ruggs and 3rd rounder.  

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8 minutes ago, Gally said:

 

Ok time for my side......

 

I have been losing players due to injury over the last couple weeks.  This week I lost James White (PPR so he actually has been decent this year) and AJ Brown (for who knows how long).  With nothing serviceable on the waiver wire I was down to having to play the likes of Allen Lazard, Byron Pringle, and Cedric Wilson for my flex spots. It is getting pretty dire.

 

I inquired about Ruggs since he is rock's Wr6 or 7 thinking I could at least get a guy that has some upside potential for a draft pick unfortunately I didn't have the 2nd rounder he was looking for.  Discussions circled around and the idea of AJ Brown and Godwin getting involved developed.  I am not a big believer in AJ Brown (usage), Godwin (too many mouths to feed) or Ruggs (hadn't showed much going into the year) so it really was a weird direction for me.  Once I thought about it a bit I don't really see much difference in Brown and Godwin (and Godwin is healthy) so getting another starter (for me) in Ruggs and an early 3rd seemed like a no brainer to accept.  

 

Another factor is I typically look at players in 2 yr increments for dynasty because too many things can happen for anything further out than that so even though I like Brown better long term for NFL purposes it really doesn't matter to me for fantasy purposes.  Bottom line I saw this as Brown and Godwin being essentially equal and a free Ruggs and 3rd rounder.  

 

To add to that, Gally is also 2-1 and potentially playoff bound. I'm 0-3, in eighth place for all play, and staring down the barrel of a draft pick. So injured guys and losses don't hurt me as much as Gally, really. He can't be without guys for weeks. Me, on the other hand? I can handle it.

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44 minutes ago, Gally said:

 

Ok time for my side......

 

I have been losing players due to injury over the last couple weeks.  This week I lost James White (PPR so he actually has been decent this year) and AJ Brown (for who knows how long).  With nothing serviceable on the waiver wire I was down to having to play the likes of Allen Lazard, Byron Pringle, and Cedric Wilson for my flex spots. It is getting pretty dire.

 

I inquired about Ruggs since he is rock's Wr6 or 7 thinking I could at least get a guy that has some upside potential for a draft pick unfortunately I didn't have the 2nd rounder he was looking for.  Discussions circled around and the idea of AJ Brown and Godwin getting involved developed.  I am not a big believer in AJ Brown (usage), Godwin (too many mouths to feed) or Ruggs (hadn't showed much going into the year) so it really was a weird direction for me.  Once I thought about it a bit I don't really see much difference in Brown and Godwin (and Godwin is healthy) so getting another starter (for me) in Ruggs and an early 3rd seemed like a no brainer to accept.  

 

Another factor is I typically look at players in 2 yr increments for dynasty because too many things can happen for anything further out than that so even though I like Brown better long term for NFL purposes it really doesn't matter to me for fantasy purposes.  Bottom line I saw this as Brown and Godwin being essentially equal and a free Ruggs and 3rd rounder.  

 

If you don't like AJB that's all well and good, but if you don't like Godwin much either I don't really see him as a good target.  A lot of people still like AJB.  Like really really like him, to the point where he has plenty of value to get you a guy you actually DO like and a flex player on top.

If you truly only look in two year increments then you likely could have gotten someone like Kupp, Hopkins, Allen plus a flex player better than Ruggs on top.  Even if you want more long term KTC still has people generally preferring AJB to guys like Ridley and McLaurin in trade value.

I can see how the trade helps your team, but I do think you could've gotten a lot more back.  And it's worth noting that if you don't really like Ruggs either, getting a simple flex player is extremely cheap.  He's WR31 in scoring and there are plenty of guys ahead of him that would cost almost nothing to acquire.

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FFPC SF not involved

Team A gives Davante Adams, 2022 3rd
Team B gives Rondale Moore, 2022 1st, 2022 2nd

I like R Moore a lot but I still don't know if this is enough.

FFPC SF - this was 30 minutes before kickoff on Sunday:

I gave 2022 2nd
I got Tonyan, 2022 3rd

It is a competitive team other than being absolute garbage at TE, but Tonyan didn't do much for me this week. Hopefully does more going forward. 

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5 minutes ago, FreeBaGeL said:

 

If you don't like AJB that's all well and good, but if you don't like Godwin much either I don't really see him as a good target.  A lot of people still like AJB.  Like really really like him, to the point where he has plenty of value to get you a guy you actually DO like and a flex player on top.

If you truly only look in two year increments then you likely could have gotten someone like Kupp, Hopkins, Allen plus a flex player better than Ruggs on top.  Even if you want more long term KTC still has people generally preferring AJB to guys like Ridley and McLaurin in trade value.

I can see how the trade helps your team, but I do think you could've gotten a lot more back.  And it's worth noting that if you don't really like Ruggs either, getting a simple flex player is extremely cheap.  He's WR31 in scoring and there are plenty of guys ahead of him that would cost almost nothing to acquire.

I have tried floating out offers to other owners with no responses or no luck in even getting a counter offer.  This league seems to be fairly stagnant for trade action.

 

I guess I also need to rephrase my view of Godwin.  I like Godwin but I am generally not as high on him as the consensus.  I really like TB offense and want pieces of it so this was a good opportunity.  But that also gets balance by me not being as high on Brown as the consensus also.  In general, I don't see a big difference between Godwin and Brown as I have them as bottom on one tier (Brown) and top of the next (Godwin).  

 

The fact that Brown pulled a hammy really hurts in using him to better my team immediately for this year as you need to find someone in Rock's position where this year isn't a push for playoffs either.  While I agree that Brown may have been able to bring a better return in some instances from my experience in this league I don't think that was going to happen.  

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35 minutes ago, barackdhouse said:

FFPC SF - this was 30 minutes before kickoff on Sunday:

I gave 2022 2nd
I got Tonyan, 2022 3rd

It is a competitive team other than being absolute garbage at TE, but Tonyan didn't do much for me this week. Hopefully does more going forward. 

I like the deal, but Tonyan figures to be very hit & miss this year. He had hyper-efficient numbers last season & was due for regression. But he showed against the Niners that he can blow up for big games any given Sunday.  Still worth it because he didn't cost you much & the weeks he hits he'll presumably be an upgrade over what you had. 

I liked Eli's comment about his TD catch, "the ball caught him". :lol: 

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On 9/27/2021 at 4:36 PM, Gally said:

I little deal just went down in a Zealots PPR league between @rockactionand myself.  I won't say which side is which

 

Full IDP, PPR, 1QB/2RB/TE/3WR/2Flex

 

AJ Brown & Hewitt

for

Godwin, Ruggs, likely early 2022 3rd rounder

 

What side do you prefer?

 

 

Feels like a buy-low on AJB, but I'm high on AJB's future. 

I think it's fair, but gimme the AJB side. 

 

Now I'mma go read the comments to see who gave whom, and why. 💡

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13 hours ago, rockaction said:

Ruggs, in my estimation, doesn't adjust on the fly yet to what Carr wants to do, is slight and can get bumped off of the ball at a moment's notice, and is generally Carr's third or fourth look unless there is a designed deep ball for him.

That's because Carr's 1st, 2nd and 3rd looks are Waller, and I'm only half kidding. 

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53 minutes ago, FreeBaGeL said:

 

If you don't like AJB that's all well and good, but if you don't like Godwin much either I don't really see him as a good target.  A lot of people still like AJB.  Like really really like him, to the point where he has plenty of value to get you a guy you actually DO like and a flex player on top.

If you truly only look in two year increments then you likely could have gotten someone like Kupp, Hopkins, Allen plus a flex player better than Ruggs on top.  Even if you want more long term KTC still has people generally preferring AJB to guys like Ridley and McLaurin in trade value.

I can see how the trade helps your team, but I do think you could've gotten a lot more back.  And it's worth noting that if you don't really like Ruggs either, getting a simple flex player is extremely cheap.  He's WR31 in scoring and there are plenty of guys ahead of him that would cost almost nothing to acquire.


To be fair, Ruggs gets return yardage in our league, too, bringing him to 28.

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13 hours ago, rockaction said:

I needed to have a shot at excellence at the positions.

This is why I'm on the AJB side. He is the only player I see with superstar locked-in plug & play WR1 upside in this deal. 

I think Ruggs could develop into a nice player. I feel like Godwin is what he is at this point - which is good, but not elite. He might have 1-2 elite games a year, but I'm not sure he has a lot of room for growth. 

I'm not saying @Gally made a bad deal - as you said, he needed depth, and that's 2 capable WRs you can plug into your lineup every week & get production, with some boom games. 

But AJB, though injured, has the highest ceiling in the deal. Bit of risk, too; but that's probably why he didn't cost more. 

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1 hour ago, barackdhouse said:

FFPC SF not involved

Team A gives Davante Adams, 2022 3rd
Team B gives Rondale Moore, 2022 1st, 2022 2nd

I like R Moore a lot but I still don't know if this is enough.

FFPC SF - this was 30 minutes before kickoff on Sunday:

I gave 2022 2nd
I got Tonyan, 2022 3rd

It is a competitive team other than being absolute garbage at TE, but Tonyan didn't do much for me this week. Hopefully does more going forward. 

That feels way light for Adams. 
I’d take a shot at Tonyan for that.

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I think I'm going to get blasted on here for making this trade but here goes........

12 Team - 12 Player Keeper League - PPR 

I gave :
Scary Terry

I get:
Waddle
2022 1st Round pick (will be early to mid)
2022 2nd Rd pick

Am I crazy for not being that high on Terry? He seems way too inconsistent to me.

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On 9/27/2021 at 7:36 PM, Gally said:

I little deal just went down in a Zealots PPR league between @rockactionand myself.  I won't say which side is which

 

Full IDP, PPR, 1QB/2RB/TE/3WR/2Flex

 

AJ Brown & Hewitt

for

Godwin, Ruggs, likely early 2022 3rd rounder

 

What side do you prefer?

 

 

Before I read anything else, give me Godwin

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