Not close? I think thats a pretty good haul. Have Hopkins, love Hopkins...but starting to wonder when this baddness will end. That is a big commitment to a bad QB that will drain the cap for at least the next 3 seasons. If he doesnt turn it around, Hopkins is a weak WR2 for a while IMO.Hopkins and its not close.
All guaranteed money is gone after 2017. He's only $6M to walk away from in 2018 and that could even be spread over two year if they want.ChuckLiddell said:Not close? I think thats a pretty good haul. Have Hopkins, love Hopkins...but starting to wonder when this baddness will end. That is a big commitment to a bad QB that will drain the cap for at least the next 3 seasons. If he doesnt turn it around, Hopkins is a weak WR2 for a while IMO.
Money is money, but in a vacuum, I really like it for the other guy.With playoff money on the line....
I traded Gurley and Langford
I got Demarco Murray and Rawls
Both teams in playoffs this year for sure.
Pryor, very especially in a start 1x RB format.10 team, 1 qb, 1 rb, 2 wr, 3 flex...yada yada
A trades Jeremy Hill
B traded T Pryor
In most formats, I like Henry by a lot. It seems like RBs are much less valuable in this format, however.16 man .5/.75/1.25 PPR start 0-3 RB 0-5 WR 1-3 TE with IDP.
Team A gets Derrick Henry
Team B gets Tyrell Williams
Hopkins. Murray probably won't have a starting job next year.12tm - PPR - QRRWWWTF
A got: Hopkins
B got: Dez, L.Murray
Certainly much less necessary with a 0 required starters. Takes the shine off the positional premium so you're looking much more purely at point potential.In most formats, I like Henry by a lot. It seems like RBs are much less valuable in this format, however.
Terrible. I can't believe this went through. Disgusted. Yes I'm in this league.12 Team PPR Dynasty with IDP
Melvin Gordon for Tyreek Hill/Preston Brown.
I usually never complain about a trade, but this is clear cheating.Terrible. I can't believe this went through. Disgusted. Yes I'm in this league.
Hillmatttyl said:10 team, 1 qb, 1 rb, 2 wr, 3 flex...yada yada
A trades Jeremy Hill
B traded T Pryor
HenryHankmoody said:16 man .5/.75/1.25 PPR start 0-3 RB 0-5 WR 1-3 TE with IDP.
Team A gets Derrick Henry
Team B gets Tyrell Williams
GurleyWith playoff money on the line....
I traded Gurley and Langford
I got Demarco Murray and Rawls
Both teams in playoffs this year for sure.
HopkinsConcept Coop said:12tm - PPR - QRRWWWTF
A got: Hopkins
B got: Dez, L.Murray
In a dynasty league? Ugh...With playoff money on the line....
I traded Gurley and Langford
I got Demarco Murray and Rawls
Both teams in playoffs this year for sure.
With championship money very potentially on the line, yes. The guy I traded with is likely my biggest competition for the title this year. I know it's a long term loser, but I'll feel better with ~$400 in my pocket if that's the case.In a dynasty league? Ugh...
Two steals. Good work.14 team PPR, flexible lineups. 1-3 RB's, 2-4 WR's, 1-3 TE's.
Gave: Dorsett, Perriman
Got: Hunter Henry
Gave: Gillislee, mid 3rd
Got: Dion Lewis
A bad investment is a bad investment.matttyl said:With championship money very potentially on the line, yes. The guy I traded with is likely my biggest competition for the title this year. I know it's a long term loser, but I'll feel better with ~$400 in my pocket if that's the case.
The pickThoughts on this one as I haven't seen Ryan moved many places...12 team PPR dynasty
Team A gets: Matt Ryan, Duke Johnson, R. Jennings (this is a playoff team)
Team B gets: 1st in 2017 (1.7-1.12 range) and Matt Jones (non playoff rebuilding team)
I know Floyd is a no show but might as well keep him for that. Nice deal for you though12 team TE premium ppr, start 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 4FLX - 30 Player rosters. Been decimated by injury and suspensions. Surprise suspension for Alshon and injuries for Gronk and Hogan took my already devastated team down to 7 startable players. Tied for last and have the other 1-9 teams first round pick but not my own, need to stay competitive to possibly steal the 1.01.
Sent P. Cooper, M. Thomas (LA), 2017 4th (currently 4.01)
Received Michael Floyd
Allen, White, Doctson16 team league. Bonus scoring for longer touchdowns at all positions. Standard otherwise. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, D,K. Team A is blowing his team up and rebuilding, Team B is competing right now.
Team A gives: Allen Robinson
Team B gives: Keenan Allen, Kevin White, Josh Doctson
Well with Rawls now the man in Seattle, I feel much, much better about the short term potential of this deal.A bad investment is a bad investment.
Apparently he (Cousins) is. He's now # 9 and the guy has rolled off 5 wins in the last 6 weeks BECAUSE of Cousins and is now in the playoff hunt.Doesn't matter. He's not a top 10 dynasty QB and even if he were its terrible trade for him. When your team is bad and not playoff bound you don't sell your early picks for anything but premium and young assets.
Ends don't justify the means. What would his record be if he had kept Ingram and/or paid less for a solid QB? Who's saying Cousins is a dynasty QB1?Apparently he (Cousins) is. He's now # 9 and the guy has rolled off 5 wins in the last 6 weeks BECAUSE of Cousins and is now in the playoff hunt.
We are a 14 team dynasty. He had no options. His QBs were Tannehill and osWILDer. I am. Cousins has what it takes to put up big #'s, he has an O minded HC as well. The guy is good. I really didn't want to trade him but I couldn't trade Matt Ryan and have 2 guys in the NFC East (Wentz). Wentz is my QB of the future. Come playoff time I don't want 2 guys stuck playing up north. I probably traded the wrong guy AGAIN. Traded away Drew Brees in 2005 right before he signed with N.O. because I had Favre and Eli. Traded away Brady back in 2001 because I had Favre and got a 1st for Brady when he was not a dynasty #1. I can pick 'em. I just can't keep 'em.Ends don't justify the means. What would his record be if he had kept Ingram and/or paid less for a solid QB? Who's saying Cousins is a dynasty QB1?
Yes he's playing well right now but after 4 weeks iirc there was all sorts of rumblings about locker room discontent due to his play. He's a nice player but not one worth the price paid (even if it's a mid to late 1st) in that particular trade. Being in the hunt does not equal in the playoffs or in the $$$.
Could still be worth it for the guy if he wins decent cash but to me it's a bad long term investment.
Let me know in December where things shake out.
How isn't he? He's consistently put up big numbers for two seasons now and looks the part. I'm not saying that trade was worth it (it's not) but I also don't see how Cousins isn't a top 12 dynasty QB.Who's saying Cousins is a dynasty QB1?
Given the format, I'd take Robinson.16 team league. Bonus scoring for longer touchdowns at all positions. Standard otherwise. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, D,K. Team A is blowing his team up and rebuilding, Team B is competing right now.
Team A gives: Allen Robinson
Team B gives: Keenan Allen, Kevin White, Josh Doctson
Benjamin/Allen14 Team - no ppr - standard scoring
Team A (1st round bye in playoffs) Gave: AJ Green
Team B (non contender playing for next year) Gave: Kelvin Benjamin, Keenan Allen
Pick12 Tm PPR - QRRWWWTF - 25 roster spots
A gets: 1st (1.04-1.06)
B gets: Jay Ajayi
A is rebuilding, B is contending.
Eh, close call. I almost think B wins. Ajayi is pretty young, and realistically you're hoping a RB picked at 1.04-1.06 can be as good as Ajayi should be for the next few years.Concept Coop said:12 Tm PPR - QRRWWWTF - 25 roster spots
A gets: 1st (1.04-1.06)
B gets: Jay Ajayi
A is rebuilding, B is contending.
PickConcept Coop said:12 Tm PPR - QRRWWWTF - 25 roster spots
A gets: 1st (1.04-1.06)
B gets: Jay Ajayi
A is rebuilding, B is contending.
I'll take Robinson. Hopkins' QB situation could suck for awhile.I wonder what you guys think of this one:
PPR, 12 teams, QRRWWWTF
WR Robinson JAX
for
WR Hopkins HOU
Both teams are fighting hard for a wild card, not that I think that matters
So Treadwell for nothing..... I'll take that side.14T .5ppr 1QB 1RB 2WR 1TE 1FL
A gets: Christine Michael
B gets: Laquan Treadwell
A contending, B rebuilding
Texans can get clear of Oswelier after next year and he's really only had one bad year after changing teams. Bortles has been horrible for 4 years and the Jags have shown a propensity to hang onto suckitude for long periods of time. Gun to my head I take Hopkins.I'll take Robinson. Hopkins' QB situation could suck for awhile.