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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (23 Viewers)
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JPeso
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JPeso
Footballguy
Might be in minority, but I'd prefer rookie #22 in Superflex over Ty Montgomery, knowing at least 4-5 QBs at minimum will go by then.
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JPeso
Footballguy
JPeso
Footballguy
JPeso
Footballguy
I am high on Shepard but would prefer to keep the 1. If adamant about moving down, should have waited longer.
12 tm PPR - needed to start a re build and Julio was my biggest chip by far. Not sure if I got full value but happy with my side
Gave: Julio, Cam Meredith, T.West
Got: Hilton, Perkins, Ty.Williams, 2018 1st (let's say mid for now), 2.10
West is JAG, even if he is the 'starter' till Dixon is back. A lot depends on how Perkins fares of course....
Gave: Julio, Cam Meredith, T.West
Got: Hilton, Perkins, Ty.Williams, 2018 1st (let's say mid for now), 2.10
West is JAG, even if he is the 'starter' till Dixon is back. A lot depends on how Perkins fares of course....
One More Rep
Footballguy
garlicduck
Footballguy
I don't really like it for you either. Perkins may lose his job to Gallman (I think so anyway - RBBC at best) and Ty Williams lost most of his value when LAC drafted Mike Williams - I think Meredith could out-produce Ty. Not terrible; Hilton, 2018 1st and 2.10 for Julio but I think you should have gotten more picks to rebuild.
That's fair, although I'm not concerned about Gallman. I don't think Hilton is such a huge step down from Julio, and I think next year's draft looks really good as of now. As for Ty Williams, I still think he'll have value, and at worst, he's a FA after the season.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
If Perkins, Williams, and the 2.10 can get him another future first then it looks good.
Also, if rebuilding, i would try to get two more firsts out of Hilton which i think is very doable.
JPeso
Footballguy
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Yeah I don't understand moving Meredith in this, it would have been enough if you had kept him but I think you're quite light as a result. I'd rather have him than Williams at this point (although I am buying Williams at his price too). Hilton's no younger than Julio so you still need to flip him, but I moved him a couple weeks ago for 1.03+ so that should be your next goal.
No one was moving their early draft picks, so I'd have to focus on assets for next year if I trade Hilton (plus younger guys). I'm not high on Meredith (I'd rather Perkins straight up over him), so I didn't see adding him as overkill. Trading studs is never easy so we'll see what happens, but I have more assets now than I did before.
northern exposure
Footballguy
Funny you should ask. I have the 1.03 pick and I'm debating between Davis and Mixon at the moment. I'm in some trade talks as well where I would trade down to 1.04 or 1.05.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
sheerterror
Footballguy
While OTC, I moved 1.1 for 1.5 and a 2018 1st (projected top 6). Wasn't optimal but I didn't have much differentiation within that top tier. Managed to get Mixon to fall to me so I was happy with the net when it was all said and done. I think the 1.1 this year is worth about half of what it was last year.
Just a follow-up, I was able to use the 2.10 I acquired (along with an existing 3rd) to move up to draft Zay Jones in the mid 2nd...
northern exposure
Footballguy
I traded out of 1.03 by giving the pick plus my 2018 4th for pick 1.05 and Isaiah Crowell.
My trade partner then drafted Davis, Cook went 1.04 and I drafted Mixon at 1.05.
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garlicduck
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sheerterror
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bostonfred
Footballguy
I'd strongly consider the later picks actually. I would rather get more, obviously, but consider the deal:
1.1 and 3.1
For
1.10, 2.3, 2.5
You can make a case that there is a top 17 or 18 picks.
Fournette mccaffrey cook mixon Davis Williams
Howard njoku engram
Hunt kamara perine mack foreman maybe Williams
Ross juju zay
Maybe you sneak in rhe qbs, or take out some other guys, but it seems like there's somewhere between 15 and 20 guys who could be considered tier 1 or 2 players.
So this trade is 3 tier 2 players for 1 tier 1 player.
Put differently, in the draft we just did together, people were offering future first round picks for pick 15 or later, and 1.10 went for more than a future first, so this trade is basically 1.1 and 3.1 for three future firsts. Which seems pretty fair, actually.
TheBottomLine
Footballguy
10-team Best Ball PPR with full IDP
Allen Hurns, Eric Decker
for
2018 3rd (mid to high)
Allen Hurns, Eric Decker
for
2018 3rd (mid to high)
ghostguy123
Footballguy
kutta
Footballguy
5Rings
Lurker
I remember years ago when Zealots leagues were good. Last half dozen years it's filled with yahoo public league type low end players. Down to two teams and only playing because of some long time friendships.
agreed, terrible trade.
Dez
Footballguy
Unfortunately for me your not in my league with the 1.01 as where I offered 1.07, 1.10 and a future 1st for 1.01 and got turned down.
In my other league the guy wants me to give him 1.06 and two future 1st round picks for the 1.01
Also in my other league where I own picks 1-6, 8, 10, 12-15 I have been offering pick 10 up for future 1st's can't get anyone to accept yet your seeing people take pick 15 for a future 1st........again wish I was in that league and no that trade wasn't 1.01 for 3 future 1sts because that only works in leagues where people are giving you that. No one is giving me a future 1st for pick 15 in mine I will be lucky to get one for pick 10.
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kutta
Footballguy
I think I like the Jordy side. I'm a believer that he has a couple more really good years in him and value him pretty close to Dez already.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Here are the trades we've seen in an active 14 team non ppr league with heavy defensive scoring
1.13 and San Fran d for DeMarco Murray, bills d
league champion traded projected late 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks for 1.9 otc, took kamara
Bills d, 2018 mid 2nd and 3rd round picks, and 1.10 otc for future first (mid- late), 2.5, Kansas city d. 1.10 was traded again (see below), 2.5 was zay Jones
Future first (mid -late), future 3rd (mid) for 2.1 otc, took John Ross
Future first (early- mid) and 4th for 2.2 otc, 2.13, future 3rd (early -mid). Took 2.2 juju, then traded 2.13 (see below)
2.3 otc for 2.9, 2.12. Ended up being 2.3 mcnichols for mahomes and Jake butt
2.4 otc and 2.13 for Crowell and 3.6. 2.4 was Jamaal Williams, 2.13 was dede Westbrook, 3.6 was traded again (see below)
2nd and 3rd (early -mid) for 3.2 otc Chris Godwin
Tyreek hill for 3.4. This owner tried trading tyreek for every pick from the mid second until now, this was actually the best he could get, which was surprising. He then took 3.4 Gerald Everett and followed with 3.5 Asian m Adam shaheen, he really wanted to get two tight end lottery tickets
3.6 otc for 3.10, projected early -mid 2018 3rd. 3.6 was deshone Kizer, 3.10 James Conner.
So we have a pretty active league, and there were a few trades that netted more than others, but the difference between picks 7 (Howard) and 14 (engram) weren't that big. 8 (Kareem hunt) and 15 (john Ross) could be traded for each other tomorrow without much controversy. 9 (kamara) 10 (mack) 11 (foreman) and 13 (perine) could have gone in a totally different order. And the guys with the 8, 11, 13 and 14 picks all turned down future firsts when they were on the clock. Every league is different, but this is an active league with experienced owners, and pick 15 pulled a future first and third.
1.13 and San Fran d for DeMarco Murray, bills d
league champion traded projected late 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks for 1.9 otc, took kamara
Bills d, 2018 mid 2nd and 3rd round picks, and 1.10 otc for future first (mid- late), 2.5, Kansas city d. 1.10 was traded again (see below), 2.5 was zay Jones
Future first (mid -late), future 3rd (mid) for 2.1 otc, took John Ross
Future first (early- mid) and 4th for 2.2 otc, 2.13, future 3rd (early -mid). Took 2.2 juju, then traded 2.13 (see below)
2.3 otc for 2.9, 2.12. Ended up being 2.3 mcnichols for mahomes and Jake butt
2.4 otc and 2.13 for Crowell and 3.6. 2.4 was Jamaal Williams, 2.13 was dede Westbrook, 3.6 was traded again (see below)
2nd and 3rd (early -mid) for 3.2 otc Chris Godwin
Tyreek hill for 3.4. This owner tried trading tyreek for every pick from the mid second until now, this was actually the best he could get, which was surprising. He then took 3.4 Gerald Everett and followed with 3.5 Asian m Adam shaheen, he really wanted to get two tight end lottery tickets
3.6 otc for 3.10, projected early -mid 2018 3rd. 3.6 was deshone Kizer, 3.10 James Conner.
So we have a pretty active league, and there were a few trades that netted more than others, but the difference between picks 7 (Howard) and 14 (engram) weren't that big. 8 (Kareem hunt) and 15 (john Ross) could be traded for each other tomorrow without much controversy. 9 (kamara) 10 (mack) 11 (foreman) and 13 (perine) could have gone in a totally different order. And the guys with the 8, 11, 13 and 14 picks all turned down future firsts when they were on the clock. Every league is different, but this is an active league with experienced owners, and pick 15 pulled a future first and third.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I think this is a stretch as the league where people are barraging early 2nd owners with offers for 2018 1sts seems to be a pretty big outlier. I have 2.1, 2.3, and 2.4 in my league and I think I'd be lucky to get a 2018 1st for all 3 of them combined, much less 3 1sts.
Also I think most people have a lot more than two tiers among the first 18 players.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I think I'd take Dez.
So as a startup this is basically a mid 4th + 2018 1st for a mid 2nd, which seems about right.
Do you have a link to the start up draft?
bostonfred
Footballguy
Right but that's what I'm trying to tell you guys. Lots of people have tiers. They just aren't the same tiers yet and there's no adp to work from. Someone traded up to get Marlon mack at the 10 pick. I wouldn't have taken him until later but this guy obviously said mack is a good back and Indy is a great situation so I need to move up. In the range from 7 to 15, Ross seems to go 7 8 or 9, but slid all the way to 15 (non ppr but still). All the owners paying a future first to trade up when the pick is on the clock were trading up for players they thought were top 10 guys this year.
I assume you guys saying you have a hard time trading multiple seconds for a first are probably in leagues that draft closer to August than April, so there will be a consensus adp and a ton more information, which means that Marlon Mack either will or won't be looking good in camp, and Kareem hunt either will or won't be looking like the new chiefs starter, and foreman either will or won't be the new first and second down back, and jamaal Williams, etc. The more news we hear, the more these guys will separate, but for leagues drafting right now, those early seconds are a lot more valuable than I would have expected.
JPeso
Footballguy
Fine buying Dez, but this is the type of move that comes back to bite you in a startup setting. I love a Dez bounce back but it isn't like Jordy's PPG isn't going to be within 2-3.
JPeso
Footballguy
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
All of my drafts start this week.
I think there are plenty of drafts out there to draw a general consensus from. MFL alone has ADP data based on 132 completed drafts.
One More Rep
Footballguy
Hopkins/Mixon in 1st deal12 Team 2 QB start with IDP
Team A traded:
Leveon Bell
Lawerence Timmons
Team B traded:
D Hopkins
J Hill
1.5(took Mixon)
4.12(tba)
Team A also traded:
D Murray
C Beasley
'18 2nd rounder(likely 124
for
T Gurley
Gurley in 2nd
buck naked
Footballguy
I have to think every year is different to players. I just traded a likely late 2018 1st & 4.06 for 2.08 & 3.02. I see this year's draft as deep, so I'm happy to trade a 2018 1st for an early 2nd.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Not picking a fight, just curious if Moncreif is actually viewed by the majority as a spare part? He is so young, and playing with one of the better young QBs in the NFL. He has flashed some talent, but been unable to stay on the field for the past 2 years...but still so young. I personally view him as more than a spare part. Wondering if I am in in the minority.
Dez
Footballguy
Dez
Footballguy
Jordy might score more this year but Dez will play longer. Key is if you trade away your future 1st in a startup you are putting major pressure on yourself to make the playoffs. Nothing worse than trading away your future 1 in a startup and ending up a top 4 pick but I like that he is betting on himself.
