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No, they won't accept

I don't know why so many people are saying that this is a fair return (despite preferring CMC as they should). It isn't. This is a fraction of what it should cost for a guy like CMC, either that or th

Barkley on this one, it isn't that close

This one I believe was pretty even if anything most will take picks side based on Gronk's downfall as most people focus on recent events.  Non PPR TD heavy league (1 pt per 20 yards). Any picks taken 2nd round on can be placed on the taxi squad for up to 3 years.  Risky to take Gronk but hoping for 3-4 more year of a fairly healthy Gronk over the tier 2 rookies that might hit or miss.  Could see this trade going either way odds are in favor of the 8,9,17 hitting 1 to 2 guys and winning the deal but if Gronk is Gronk for 3 more years I will be ok with the deal.

I gave

8

9

17

Edelman

Funchess (Taxi squad)

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Gronk

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13 minutes ago, One More Rep said:

I would trade Adams for Jeffery in a  heartbeat

Agreed but I'd call it equal, or at least fair. 

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8 hours ago, One More Rep said:

Man it would be hard to pass on that return for Brown. Looks fine for both sides

As an Antonio owner, that would pry him from me. 

Fwiw, I had offered 1.14 and Antonio for cooper and 1.01. Was told the other owner wouldn't give cooper straight for brown. 

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18 hours ago, CabinFever said:

WRs typically don't lose their starting positions like RBs do. And with Pryor only on a 1 year deal, seems Doctson has a clear path to starting now and for the foreseeable future IMO. 

Path sure.  But he has to actually walk that path.  

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Team A gets 1.04

Team B gets Jordan Howard

It's a 16 Team contract PPR league.   Howard is $10 for 3 years, rookie will be $19 for up to 4 years. All contracts can be renewed at the end of term based on ranking but in both cases the cost is low with a salary cap of $400ish.

Fournette and Davis are off the board with 1.03 OTC still.

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15 minutes ago, -OZ- said:

As an Antonio owner, that would pry him from me. 

Fwiw, I had offered 1.14 and Antonio for cooper and 1.01. Was told the other owner wouldn't give cooper straight for brown. 

I own Cooper in half of my leagues and I wouldn't move him for Brown straight up either. I know the odds are good that Brown outproduces him again in 2017 but Cooper hasn't hit his prime yet.

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3 minutes ago, One More Rep said:

I own Cooper in half of my leagues and I wouldn't move him for Brown straight up either. I know the odds are good that Brown outproduces him again in 2017 but Cooper hasn't hit his prime yet.

I'm not so much arguing as saying the other deal (allen, the 1, etc) is a decent price. 

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3 minutes ago, CabinFever said:

How is JuJu = Adams!?! Seriously someone help me, am I missing something here? 

They don't.  ILB has been spending too much time with his love. 

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42 minutes ago, CabinFever said:

How is JuJu = Adams!?! Seriously someone help me, am I missing something here? 

I could see them being close in ADP in a year or two. No way are they in the same tier at that moment. That statement is pretty ridiculous 

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10 hours ago, kutta said:

I'm an Adam's owner and would probably take that haul for him, but no way do he and JuJu cancel out.

You're right. JuJu is better!

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1 hour ago, dipandglide said:

I could see them being close in ADP in a year or two. No way are they in the same tier at that moment. That statement is pretty ridiculous 

I don't think anyone is giving up a top 5 rookie pick for Adams.  He'd maybe bring in a pick in the 7-12 range...similar to where JuJu is going in rookie drafts.

Adams has had one good season, he isn't an established stud.

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Just a bunch I found from ongoing drafts

    Team A gave up Dixon, Kenneth BAL RB;West, Terrance BAL RB;Griffin, Ryan HOU TE;Aguayo, Roberto TBB PK
    Team B gave up Thomas, Julius MIA TE;Sturgis, Caleb PHI PK; Year 2017 Draft Pick 2.11

    Team A gave up Year 2017 Draft Pick 1.07;Year 2017 Draft Pick 5.04
    Team B gave up Anderson, Robby NYJ WR; Year 2017 Draft Pick 1.13;Year 2017 Draft Pick 3.05

    Team A gave up Year 2017 Draft Pick 1.11
    Team B gave up Year 2017 Draft Pick 1.13;Year 2017 Draft Pick 5.13; Year 2018 Round 3 Draft Pick from Team B

    Team A gave up Bennett, Martellus GBP TE; Year 2017 Draft Pick 2.01; $5.00 in blind bidding
    Team B gave up Kelley, Rob WAS RB; Year 2017 Draft Pick 1.09

    Team A gave up Burkhead, Rex NEP RB;Walford, Clive OAK TE;Richardson, Sheldon NYJ DE; Year 2017 Draft Pick 3.07;Year 2017 Draft Pick 5.06;Year 2017 Draft Pick 5.07;Year 2017 Draft Pick 6.07;Year 2017 Draft Pick 7.13; Year 2018 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team A
    Team B gave up Year 2017 Draft Pick 1.12; Year 2018 Round 7 Draft Pick from Team B;Year 2018 Round 8 Draft Pick from Team B

    Team A gave up Fournette, Leonard JAC RB; Year 2018 Round 6 Draft Pick from Team B;Year 2019 Round 4 Draft Pick from Team A
    Team B gave up Year 2017 Draft Pick 3.06; Year 2018 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team B;Year 2018 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B;Year 2019 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team B

    Team A gave up Wilson, Russell SEA QB;Maclin, Jeremy KCC WR; Year 2018 Round 4 Draft Pick from Team A
    Team B gave up Brady, Tom NEP QB; Year 2017 Draft Pick 3.06

Same owner
    Team A gave up Allison, Geronimo GBP WR;Green, Ladarius PIT TE; $3 in blind bidding
    Team B gave up Year 2017 Draft Pick 2.14

    Team C gave up Cook, Jared OAK TE
    Team A gave up Year 2017 Draft Pick 3.01; $3 in blind bidding

Same owner:
    Team A gave up Cook, Dalvin MIN RB;Year 2017 Draft Pick 3.03
    Team B gave up Robinson, Allen JAC WR; Year 2017 Draft Pick 1.11;Year 2017 Draft Pick 3.11

    Team A gave up Year 2017 Draft Pick 1.11;Year 2017 Draft Pick 4.10;Year 2017 Draft Pick 5.08
    Team C gave up Year 2017 Draft Pick 2.02;Year 2017 Draft Pick 3.02;Year 2017 Draft Pick 4.02

    Team A gave up Year 2017 Draft Pick 2.02; Year 2018 Round 4 Draft Pick from Team A
    Team D gave up Year 2018 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team A;Year 2018 Round 3 Draft Pick from Team D

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15 minutes ago, ILUVBEER99 said:

I don't think anyone is giving up a top 5 rookie pick for Adams.  He'd maybe bring in a pick in the 7-12 range...similar to where JuJu is going in rookie drafts.

Adams has had one good season, he isn't an established stud.

Adams is an early 3rd round pick in startups.  JuJu is going in the double digits.

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1 minute ago, FreeBaGeL said:

Adams is an early 3rd round pick in startups.  JuJu is going in the double digits.

If that's the case i feel bad for those wasting early 3rd round start up picks on Adams.  Had no idea people were taking him that high.

Based on that i guess he's worth a lot more than JuJu.  I disagree, but ADP shows i'm wrong on this one.

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2 minutes ago, ILUVBEER99 said:

If that's the case i feel bad for those wasting early 3rd round start up picks on Adams.  Had no idea people were taking him that high.

Based on that i guess he's worth a lot more than JuJu.  I disagree, but ADP shows i'm wrong on this one.

adams as a top 36 dynasty asset is laughable to me. But what do I know

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21 minutes ago, FreeBaGeL said:

Yeah I can see why people wouldn't want a 24 year old who just finished as WR9 as the 20th WR off the board...

I guess some of us actually watch the games as opposed to following box scores 

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14 minutes ago, Skeletore Eh said:

I guess some of us actually watch the games as opposed to following box scores 

FBG have Adams as the #39 dynasty player and JuJu #89

DLF have Adams #45 and JuJu #125

Maybe one day they will start watching some games I guess?

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Adams seemed to turn a corner last season and we've seen some late-blooming GB receivers have great careers (Driver, Nelson). Still, he has a career best of 997 receiving yards in a season after three years in the league. I don't think you can argue that JuJu is = to him in market value, but I can buy an argument that he might end up being the better player. I'm higher on him than most, but I like him more than I liked Adams out of Fresno and Adams hasn't lit the NFL on fire since then. He's been pretty good, but not amazing.

 

Kind of a moot point because the deal was Adams/3.4 for JuJu/2.9/2018 1st. I don't value that 3.4 to 2.9 bump very much this year, but with the 1st thrown in I like the JuJu side. I see him being a PPR machine in Pittsburgh in the near future. And if he flops, you've still got the 2018 1st as an "out" to win the trade.

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18 minutes ago, FreeBaGeL said:

FBG have Adams as the #39 dynasty player and JuJu #89

DLF have Adams #45 and JuJu #125

Maybe one day they will start watching some games I guess?

I personally don't care about rankings you find online. I go with what I think

 

i also never mentioned juju. Just said I don't think Adams is a top 36 dynasty asset  

 

and apparently your rankings agree with me

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2 hours ago, FreeBaGeL said:

FBG have Adams as the #39 dynasty player and JuJu #89

DLF have Adams #45 and JuJu #125

Maybe one day they will start watching some games I guess?

One thing to consider is the risk that Adam's isn't back in GB in 2018.  If that happens his value plummets.  Rodgers can make average WR's look really good.  Once those average Joe's go to other teams they end up sucking.

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16 hours ago, Dez said:

This one I believe was pretty even if anything most will take picks side based on Gronk's downfall as most people focus on recent events.  Non PPR TD heavy league (1 pt per 20 yards). Any picks taken 2nd round on can be placed on the taxi squad for up to 3 years.  Risky to take Gronk but hoping for 3-4 more year of a fairly healthy Gronk over the tier 2 rookies that might hit or miss.  Could see this trade going either way odds are in favor of the 8,9,17 hitting 1 to 2 guys and winning the deal but if Gronk is Gronk for 3 more years I will be ok with the deal.

I gave

8

9

17

Edelman

Funchess (Taxi squad)

for

Gronk

You stole Gronk

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20 hours ago, Protocols of Stringer Bell said:

Ffpc 

gave 

Keenan Allen

Fuller

1.1 

2.02

for

Antonio Brown

 

its a bunch to give but I also had 1.2 and some solid wr depth 

I would have looked elsewhere in trading the parts. Too rich for my blood. Think Cooper type would have been exponentially cheaper. 

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10 hours ago, slackjawedyokel said:

Team A gets 1.04

Team B gets Jordan Howard

It's a 16 Team contract PPR league.   Howard is $10 for 3 years, rookie will be $19 for up to 4 years. All contracts can be renewed at the end of term based on ranking but in both cases the cost is low with a salary cap of $400ish.

Fournette and Davis are off the board with 1.03 OTC still.

Howard easily with the contract terms.  

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10 hours ago, CabinFever said:

How is Ju Ju, who has never played a snap in the NFL considered a wash with D. Adams who was a top 10 WR in our PPR leagues last year and has Rogers as his QB?? 

Agreed that adams > JuJu

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6 hours ago, fbomb said:

While we're on the Adams topic, this trade was completed in a 12 team ppr league a week ago.

Team A received Adams

Team B received Ajayi

Happily take Adams here 

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8 hours ago, EBF said:

Adams seemed to turn a corner last season and we've seen some late-blooming GB receivers have great careers (Driver, Nelson). Still, he has a career best of 997 receiving yards in a season after three years in the league. I don't think you can argue that JuJu is = to him in market value, but I can buy an argument that he might end up being the better player. I'm higher on him than most, but I like him more than I liked Adams out of Fresno and Adams hasn't lit the NFL on fire since then. He's been pretty good, but not amazing.

 

Kind of a moot point because the deal was Adams/3.4 for JuJu/2.9/2018 1st. I don't value that 3.4 to 2.9 bump very much this year, but with the 1st thrown in I like the JuJu side. I see him being a PPR machine in Pittsburgh in the near future. And if he flops, you've still got the 2018 1st as an "out" to win the trade.

JuJu may or may not have a good career, I have my doubts.  One thing I do know is that JuJu is 3rd at best  WR option in Pittsburgh.  Brown and Bryant should own most of the receiving in Pittsburgh in the short term, or at least until (if) Bryant gets caught with a blunt.  If Bryant has cleaned up his act it will be very difficult for JuJu to be fantasy relevant in the next few years.  I agree getting the 1st is a good thing in that trade.

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12 hours ago, fbomb said:

While we're on the Adams topic, this trade was completed in a 12 team ppr league a week ago.

Team A received Adams

Team B received Ajayi

I like both players a lot - think this is a completely fair trade in my opinion.

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3 hours ago, JohnnyU said:

JuJu may or may not have a good career, I have my doubts.  One thing I do know is that JuJu is 3rd at best  WR option in Pittsburgh.  Brown and Bryant should own most of the receiving in Pittsburgh in the short term, or at least until (if) Bryant gets caught with a blunt.  If Bryant has cleaned up his act it will be very difficult for JuJu to be fantasy relevant in the next few years.  I agree getting the 1st is a good thing in that trade.

You might be right, but Pittsburgh doesn't really have a "chain mover" type anywhere on their team. JuJu can fill that role right away if given the chance. I see him doing most of his damage on short routes over the middle that let him catch and run with the ball.


Also, you can't assume that Bryant is going to be in the lineup. He has serious issues.

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