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Yeah, this is the rare "anti-rookie fever" type of deal.
I can see wanting Bell over Barkley. Same tier though I think along with David Johnson. Kind of a youth vs production thing whereas Zeke and Gurley have both.
Here is my fear with this deal...there is a lot to like about Henry but he is not a definite as far as studs go...if I am going to deal a future #1 I want a more secure player or have it be a situation mid-season that can possibly put me over the top...think about this scenario...Henry is solid but nothing special and this team gets the injury bug and that picks goes in the top 3...lot of downside to it and I am not really sure Henry is worth that gamble...
I would say Everett+2.12 = Lewis
Not a Henry guy but in last few weeks I think I saw him go for pick 4 in an FFPC league and just last week someone got a whopping haul of 1.4, 2.3 and 2019#1 projected top 4.
Start 1 rb I’ll take obj pretty easily. You can keep the hyde/caroo combo even.
Unless, of course, the pick is owned by the Cleveland Browns.
If they do play fantasy football, they will finally take a qb at #1. I mean in the fantasy draft, you know, when you shouldn’t take s qb at 1.Arodin said:
As someone who traded the 1.01 for what I think is a decent package, you should wait it out if you have the 1.01. Price isn’t going down between now and he draft. If you were the one going after the 1.01 then you better make it happen now if barkley is your man. I’m not having regrets per se, but if he is some sort of cross between a bigger Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders I’ll likely be regretting it down the road.
If you want the 1.1 when there is a big time talent you need to overpay...no reason for the owner who has that pick to settle for anything other than an overpay...that is a very nice return but let's remember that as much as Adams looks ready to really breakout he has played 4 years and only has 1 with over 900 yards (and none over a 1,000...the 22 TDs the past 2 years is very solid) and the Freeman owner is probably down on him after last year's subpar season...if Barkley becomes a Gurleyesque player I am sure the Owner giving up Adams and Freeman will have zero regrets...
Hank is 100% right, but it's an interesting question so I'll answer it in the other thread.
Don't forget that Adams had multiple concussions this year. He could be one hit away from not playing again. I think I make that deal for the 1.01 without a second thought.
I would pay that pretty easily for Mahomes. Rookie QB's will go before that in most drafts (not familiar with FFPC history though) so to get a guy that's stepping into an Andy Reid offense with those established weapons and a year under his belt is an easy call for me.
menobrown: I think that your decision to further strengthen your already deep team is an excellent decision on your part, and is an equitable trade for both sides. Waiting for another 2 months might have either cost you more - or even might have resulted in not adding this targeted QB to your roster. His talents & situation is a step or two (and a year or two as well) ahead of any of this year's rookie QB candidates. GL.
In a vacuum, I don't mind it. But I don't understand why one makes that deal in a rebuild.
Have to agree with Concept Coop, especially with no info about Team B's existing roster and what his overall rebuild plan will accomplish by making this trade.
Team B's roster includes: Ryan, Bell (post trade), Watkins, Decker, Maclin, Olsen w/ picks 1.10, 1.11, 1.12, 2.01 (pick 18), 2.12, 2.16.
This actually makes his trade look worse to me for him. He's not rebuilding so much as he is building a team because other than those picks his only player of tangible value before this deal was Watkins.
Not really too much of a gamble based upon what is going on down in Houston. While Miller could make some contribution this season in Houston, a 2019 1st rounder is a nice asset to add to your quiver.
Hyde (4 yrs a pro in San Fran) appears to have a higher upside than Miller (6 yrs a pro in MIA & HOU), but Hyde's 2018 location is up in the air - so Team A is probably the owner rolling the dice from a second look at facts for both players. Team B is receiving a 2019 2nd could prove to turn out to be the better long term part of this deal.
I love this trade...very solid move getting Edelman for low-end assets...he could really be a solid contributor for the next 2 years or so in a league that starts a lot of players...the only good thing about his injury is how early it happened...probably guarantees he will be ready for 2018...he is such an animal I picture him being like a caged bull next year...youth is the foundation of a good dynasty team but not everyone on your roster has to be young if you want to win it...got to take advantage when other owners are willing to deal veterans at cut-rate prices...
Seems like 3 buy low players to me and probably win-win. I like Enunwa in this format, PPR and the large starting lineup means players like Enunwa, solid performers when healthy although unlikely to be top 24 guys (although in ppr he may very well be a good wr2 if the Jets get a QB) actually hold value.
Gotta like the new team going after his target. Seems fair imo, perhaps a bit lighter than we've seen Barkley go before but Cooper plus, say Michel, seems decent
Probably the worst spot for him but if they did sign Cousins first, it could be alright.
With Haley on board I’m really starting to warm up to Cleveland as a destination. The combo of Crowell and Duke had 2100 total yards.
Not many...decent offensive line, could be peppered with dump off targets in the passing game. Whoever takes him is gonna make him their bell cow back and Barkley isn't a guy that's gonna be out of the game if their losing because he is a very good pass catcher
Fair point. For all the issues on that team, the run game has been average. Barkley can make it really good. This isn't Zeke goes to Dallas but it's hardly a death sentence.
