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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (19 Viewers)
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
In what ways would team composition make this a viable deal for the team trading away Fournette? Even if he was the only good player on the roster, all he did was further weaken his roster in all but some very unlikely outcomes.
I was not involved in the trade so unfortunately don't have much rationale context.
The Fournette seller did make a public message board post that he was on the block (along with other lower profile guys). Then 24 hours later this executed trade came through.
I have to assume there were multiple offers as there always is when you post that someone of Fournette's caliber is available.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Exactly. All of these "what are the rosters?" questions are mostly irrelevant. If the trade is a good value or you are getting the guy you want you do it. I just don't get it. "Getting Fournette for Cooper is good value but I"m going to pass because I already have 3 starting RB". Who even does that?
One More Rep
Footballguy
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
FPC, both good teams, tm rec Olsen was pretty weak at te
Give Olsen & 2.06
Get 2019 1st
Give Olsen & 2.06
Get 2019 1st
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Footballguy
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Footballguy
TheBottomLine
Footballguy
Arodin said:
lexus said:
Boston said:
58-man rosters, with full IDP. Free agent pool extremely watered down and plenty of guys on each roster that could be dropped without hesitation. Also, Zay and McGuire are much more valuable than what is available in FA.
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Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
FFPC
Jarvis Landry and 2019 3rd rd pick
for
Sammy Watkins, Martavis Bryant
Jarvis Landry and 2019 3rd rd pick
for
Sammy Watkins, Martavis Bryant
Did a similar deal a few weeks ago in FFPC to get a 2019#1 so like this deal on your end. But if the team getting Olsen is a good team, that feels confident they are a major contender and that 2019 pick will be in 10-12 type range it's not really not a lot to pay for Olsen.
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Footballguy
NeverEnough
Footballguy
Well, of course. If a league is 58-deep, that has enough impact on player valuations that it probably should be included in the posted league parameters with the trade.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
buck naked
Footballguy
FFPC league, TE premium
Gave: 1.03, 1.08, Kittle, Crowder, 2019 2nd
Got: 1.01
Gave: 1.03, 1.08, Kittle, Crowder, 2019 2nd
Got: 1.01
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Interesting trade because if I own Landry I'd rather he remained in Miami and if I own the other two I'm hoping they find a way to a new team. Ironically the one I give the least chance of changing teams is Martavis.
On this deal, if I can afford the extra roster spot, I take the Sammy side because in a situation where I'm unsure where any of these players will be playing in 18/19 I am just taking talent and I think talent is on that side of the deal.
bostonfred
Footballguy
14 team qrwwftkd (short starting lineups). This is non ppr.
Playoff team receives 1.5
Rebuilding team receives. 1.7, 2019 first (project mid-late)
Playoff team receives 1.5
Rebuilding team receives. 1.7, 2019 first (project mid-late)
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
If im rebuilding the 1.7 and 19 1st for sure
* To clarify, the below is an earlier posted trade I was commenting on.
FFPC
Jarvis Landry and 2019 3rd rd pick
for
Sammy Watkins, Martavis Bryant
I'll take Sammy and be looking to trade Bryant for pretty much whatever i can get.
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Zyphros
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
JPeso
Footballguy
1st
1.2, JuJu
Watkins/Bryant handily.NE_REVIVAL said:
Silly to pay a future 1st to move up to picks in the mid 1st. 1.7, no question.bostonfred said:
1.1, haven't seen it go that cheap.buck naked said:
Boston
Footballguy
Great trade...would lean towards Barkley because RB prospects like him are the rare breed but I have zero issues getting 1.2 and a 21 year potential stud/#1 WR back...would feel a little better if you could squeeze out another useful piece with upside because the gap between Barkley and the 1.2 has a chance to be pretty big...something like a Tarik Cohen or a Nelson Agholor...
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Last year I think people would have paid it to move from 7 to the top 5 with the huge tier dropoff there.
I agree it's too early to know how this year will pan out yet as the combine and draft will change a ton but right now I think people are anticipating a top 5 tier with those top 5 RBs again.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
I'm the one who made the trade to move up into the top 5. What you wrote above is my reasoning. It's a NON-PPR league and i want to guarantee one of (RJII, Guice, Michel, Chubb).
TheBottomLine
Footballguy
jeaton6
Footballguy
12 Team: RB 0.25 PPR, 0.25 PP Carry.
Full Return Yards (1 pt 10 return, same as rush/rec yards). Keep 15
- Start 1 QB/1-3 RB/2-4 WR/1 TE
Gave: Kamara/1.11/2.11 (Kamara avg 20 PPG)
Got: Zeke (Zeke avg 24 PPG)
My old assets below:
QB: Newton, Luck
RB: Kamara, Hunt, Monty, McKinnon
WR: Tyreek, Cooper, Watkins, C. Davis, Z Jones, J. Matthews, Doctson, Samuel
TE: Shaheen
Picks: 1.4, 1.6, 1.11, 2.3, 2.11, 3.1, 3.3, 3.4, 3.11, 4.1, 4.11, 5.11
- I Love Kamara but figured I had the ammo and that this Year was close to his ceiling. 2000 total yards, 200 touches, 14 TDs.
-Figure touches go up to 250-270 (180-200 rushes/70 rec) TDs probably more like 10 and total yards (incl return comes down a bit). They probably don’t use him as return guy as he becomes more featured.
Interested in what others think. This was pretty tough for me.
Full Return Yards (1 pt 10 return, same as rush/rec yards). Keep 15
- Start 1 QB/1-3 RB/2-4 WR/1 TE
Gave: Kamara/1.11/2.11 (Kamara avg 20 PPG)
Got: Zeke (Zeke avg 24 PPG)
My old assets below:
QB: Newton, Luck
RB: Kamara, Hunt, Monty, McKinnon
WR: Tyreek, Cooper, Watkins, C. Davis, Z Jones, J. Matthews, Doctson, Samuel
TE: Shaheen
Picks: 1.4, 1.6, 1.11, 2.3, 2.11, 3.1, 3.3, 3.4, 3.11, 4.1, 4.11, 5.11
- I Love Kamara but figured I had the ammo and that this Year was close to his ceiling. 2000 total yards, 200 touches, 14 TDs.
-Figure touches go up to 250-270 (180-200 rushes/70 rec) TDs probably more like 10 and total yards (incl return comes down a bit). They probably don’t use him as return guy as he becomes more featured.
Interested in what others think. This was pretty tough for me.
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Footballguy
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Footballguy
Zeke for me but, the 2 picks are more than enough to bridge the gap for the other side.
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Footballguy
Would depend on my team. I think I would keep Green if I was a top team and take the pick if I was bottom or middle of the road team
BINGBING
Footballguy
I'm the one that got Barkley. I didn't like giving up Adams, but I needed to upgrade from Gordon and still have plenty of WR's...Julio, Cooks, Corey Davis, Funchess, Golladay, Stills, J Matthews, and Godwin.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
12 team FFPC style QRRWWTFFDK
Team A gives AJ Green, Melvin Gordon, 2019 1st (perennial playoff team)
Team B gives 1.01
Different league, same rules:
Team C gives Michael Thomas, Cameron Meredith, 2.11
Team D gives 1.01
I'm kind of shocked on the second one since I was offering the 1.01 owner Bell+
Team A gives AJ Green, Melvin Gordon, 2019 1st (perennial playoff team)
Team B gives 1.01
Different league, same rules:
Team C gives Michael Thomas, Cameron Meredith, 2.11
Team D gives 1.01
I'm kind of shocked on the second one since I was offering the 1.01 owner Bell+
One More Rep
Footballguy
The 1st one is tough for me. I probably would not move either side in this deal
Barkley handily in 2nd one
Boston
Footballguy
Agree 100%...getting a potential #1 RB and WR is never being short-changed...if you want Barley you better bring the real ammo...this kid has made owners in every league really sniff around that 1.1 pick...the buzz around this kid is only growing (and it was huge to begin with)...One More Rep said:
Zyphros
Footballguy
I'm sorry but WHAT THE EFFING EFF. The only reason I could consider this close is if Adams is being considered better than OBJ.... I love me some Melvin Gordon but he's in the bottom tier of RB1's and likely on his way out of that tier with the fresh crop incoming.BINGBING said:
Snorkelson
Footballguy
I’ll take 1.01 in both. That second one is pretty bad.barackdhouse said:
jeaton6
Footballguy
I struggle with how the just turned 25 year old (happy birthday MT) that just put up B2B Mid WR1 seasons (and set the record for most receptions in his first 2 years in the league) + the Bears present WR1 and a late 2 is bad value for the 1.1. And I’m a PSU grad who loves Barkley.
JPeso
Footballguy
That's fine. I would have kept the picks but I can't fault either way.jeaton6 said:
1.1, GolladayBINGBING said:
About as close as it gets, I can see it as a win-win depending on where each team is in life cycle. I would take AJ if competing.-OZ- said:
AJ, Gordon, 1st | 1.1barackdhouse said:
-OZ-
Footballguy
Really? Thomas is a fine player but that seems really cheap to me. Especially if both flex can be RB.
barackdhouse said:
