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BillyJoeBob
Footballguy
12 Team PPR Superlfex
Gave 2.12 (24th overall)
Received Trey Burton TE
Just lost Hunter Henry and needed TE help
Gave 2.12 (24th overall)
Received Trey Burton TE
Just lost Hunter Henry and needed TE help
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kutta
Footballguy
What is wrong with people? Zeke has done nothing but average 100 yds/game rushing, 2 receptions for 20 yds/game, and 1 td/game in his career thus far. And you are trading him for a guy who hasn’t hit the field yet.
Zeke by a mile because one in the hand here is worth just as much as the one in the bush
Tejas
Footballguy
Concept Coop
Footballguy
While I personally would not trade Zeke for the 1.01 I think you are underestimating Barkley’s upside a bit. Zeke will never be the pass catcher that Barkley is. Barkley has LT/Faulk level upside as a RB who can catch 80+ passes while still doing a lot of damage on the ground. If you believe in him this is about the only window to buy because you won’t be touching him in the future if he hits
Easily Gurley with the Henry injury, would have been close pre-Hunter injury, then it would have become more of a team specific trade.
Pwingles
Footballguy
I dont think its zeke by "a mile"
If there is a prospect whos ceiling projects to compete with zeke, its barkely. Also he is a saint, unlike zeke, who is an actual idiot. You really telling me that you wouldnt swap zeke for the who will be next years rb1/2/3 in dyno. A guy who is one idiotic move away from being banned for a year....
I understand the argument for having zeke and not trading him at all, but to say its not close is completely ignoring the real life situation and risks
If there is a prospect whos ceiling projects to compete with zeke, its barkely. Also he is a saint, unlike zeke, who is an actual idiot. You really telling me that you wouldnt swap zeke for the who will be next years rb1/2/3 in dyno. A guy who is one idiotic move away from being banned for a year....
I understand the argument for having zeke and not trading him at all, but to say its not close is completely ignoring the real life situation and risks
Tau837
Footballguy
I see others covered it, but the rationale is pretty straightforward:
- Barkley is expected/projected to be a tier 1 RB, on par with Gurley and Elliott, with RB1 overall potential, especially in PPR
- Barkley is 2.5 years younger than Elliott
- Elliott has a considerable amount more mileage
- Elliott has had multiple off field problems and is a candidate for future suspension; based upon what we know about Barkley, he isn't
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Yeah I would take Elliot over Barkley, but people aren't wrong that Barkley's upside is quite a bit higher.
Elliot's best case is basically that he has an Adrian Peterson like career. Barkley's best case is that he has a Marshall Faulk like career. And in PPR, Marshall Faulk scored a LOT more than Adrian Peterson.
To put that into context, the most fantasy points Adrian Peterson ever scored was 348 and that was the year he rushed for 2100 yards AND had his career high in receptions. Faulk beat that number 5 times, and not just by a little. He was basically at or above 400 fantasy points 5 times, with an insane career high of 456 points.
That gap is just utterly massive.
Elliot's best case is basically that he has an Adrian Peterson like career. Barkley's best case is that he has a Marshall Faulk like career. And in PPR, Marshall Faulk scored a LOT more than Adrian Peterson.
To put that into context, the most fantasy points Adrian Peterson ever scored was 348 and that was the year he rushed for 2100 yards AND had his career high in receptions. Faulk beat that number 5 times, and not just by a little. He was basically at or above 400 fantasy points 5 times, with an insane career high of 456 points.
That gap is just utterly massive.
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Concept Coop
Footballguy
I think Zeke has Gurley PPR upside. I think his lack of receptions to this point in his career is a product of the scheme and play calling.
Receiving ability: Barkley > Zeke > AP, IMO.
Edit: Just a small quibble. I agree with your overall point.
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We're basically saying that Barkley's upside is the greatest runningback of all time. Honestly, don't think I can argue with that though, he looks pretty awesome. But I would argue that Barkley's situation is much closer to (if not worse than) Faulk in Indy than Faulk playing in the greatest show on turf. Not that Faulk in Indy didn't have some good to great fantasy seasons as well.
Matt's Eagles
Footballguy
12 team PPR
Team A got Mack, C Thompson, DJax, 2.12
Team B got 1.8, Chad Williams
Team C got A Collins
Team D got Clement, Allison, 2.12
Team A got Mack, C Thompson, DJax, 2.12
Team B got 1.8, Chad Williams
Team C got A Collins
Team D got Clement, Allison, 2.12
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
kittenmittens
Footballguy
"You can have the boat.... or the mystery box?"
"A boat is a boat, but the mystery box could be anything, it could even be a boat!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKZJdaiJF84
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Well that was the one that was on Miami - so you won’t get any points for him anymore.Aunt Jemima said:
Dez
Footballguy
oldmanhawkins
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oldmanhawkins
Footballguy
Cooks for 1.04 and 2019 2nd.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
10 team Superflex 0.5 PPR, all trades from same league.
Team A gives : 2019 3rd
Team B gives: Delanie Walker
After the Henry injury. Team A had Henry and only Gathers\Akins\Shaheen behind him.
Team C gives: Gronk, 2020 2nd
Team B gives: Tevin Coleman, 2019 1st
Team C is left with Brate/Burton/Cook at TE. Team B also had Freeman. Team C was a little short at RB depth but not too badly (Kamara, Lewis, Foreman, Guice, Duke)
Team B gives: ASJ, 2019 4th
Team D gives: 2019 3rd
Team B had a clear out of TE's after getting Gronk. He only has Vance McDonald as cover now.
Team A gives : 2019 3rd
Team B gives: Delanie Walker
After the Henry injury. Team A had Henry and only Gathers\Akins\Shaheen behind him.
Team C gives: Gronk, 2020 2nd
Team B gives: Tevin Coleman, 2019 1st
Team C is left with Brate/Burton/Cook at TE. Team B also had Freeman. Team C was a little short at RB depth but not too badly (Kamara, Lewis, Foreman, Guice, Duke)
Team B gives: ASJ, 2019 4th
Team D gives: 2019 3rd
Team B had a clear out of TE's after getting Gronk. He only has Vance McDonald as cover now.
One More Rep
Footballguy
1.8Matt's Eagles said:
Collins
One More Rep
Footballguy
oldmanhawkins
Footballguy
Agreed. Team that gave up Cooks really needed a RB and I was surprised the other owner didn’t ask for more.
Pwingles
Footballguy
12 team ppr (not involved)
team A gets
2018 picks 13,17,26,27,38
team B gets
Chris Carson, Ryan grant, J Stew, Mike Davis, Ted Ginn
This is a league I commish in, I have never been inclined to overturn a trade before now, pretty sure this only happened because the team giving up all the picks cannot make our live rookie draft that has been scheduled several weeks. It was his birthday yesterday and the trade was made around midnight. Wondering if he was just drunk. Trying to communicate with team a's owner to see exactly what the circumstances were. Either way, smh thats just awful
team A gets
2018 picks 13,17,26,27,38
team B gets
Chris Carson, Ryan grant, J Stew, Mike Davis, Ted Ginn
This is a league I commish in, I have never been inclined to overturn a trade before now, pretty sure this only happened because the team giving up all the picks cannot make our live rookie draft that has been scheduled several weeks. It was his birthday yesterday and the trade was made around midnight. Wondering if he was just drunk. Trying to communicate with team a's owner to see exactly what the circumstances were. Either way, smh thats just awful
ghostguy123
Footballguy
He couldnt just hand you a list with his top 38 guys in order?
He doesnt sound too bright
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
It's awful, based on value, but I wouldn't veto it, as outside of the 2.01 - in this draft none of those picks are likely to amount to much anyway. There is a decent chance Ryan Grant emerges as the No. 2 in Indianapolis and if Luck does come back that's not a bad thing. Ginn is old but was fairly productive last season and seems to have Brees' trust.
I would definitely wait for an explanation - and if the guys says convincingly he's ok with the trade, hold your nose and let it go through.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
12 team ppr QB-2RB-3WR-TE-FL
Team A gave up Anderson, Robby NYJ WR
Team B gave up Booker, Devontae DEN RB; Year 2019 Round 3 Draft Pick from Team B
Team A gave up Anderson, Robby NYJ WR
Team B gave up Booker, Devontae DEN RB; Year 2019 Round 3 Draft Pick from Team B
JPeso
Footballguy
Interesting as I could not even get a 4th for Robby where I owned him.
Certainly qualifies as one of the owrst trades I've ever seen given the owner essentially gave us away for picks for free.
That's about right.
Boston
Footballguy
Very interesting deal...I would lean towards Booker and the pick...I don’t see Anderson blowing up with a rookie QB and you can never have enough young, dice roll RBs and I think the #3 gives you a chip to make another move and get a WR better than Anderson if you need the do that...
Skeletore Eh
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bostonfred
Footballguy
Fair. I could see either side but if you're looking for immediate production I'd probably take McKinnon.
I’m generally not a veto guy but that trade is indefensible. Even if that guy believed all those players were underrated, he could have given just the 13th pick alone (and still be overpaying). I’d overturn it and give that owner a warning
Pwingles
Footballguy
Owner giving up all the picks still owns the 1.03, i assume he is going to let someone know who to take for him, but if somehow he could get Penny at 1.03, i suppose its less bad since he will own almost the entire seattle backfield....maybe...nope, definitely just bad
TheBottomLine
Footballguy
TheBottomLine
Footballguy
Not involved. 10-Team PPR with deep benches. Start QRRWWWT with one R/W/T flex.
AJ Green, 2019 2nd (early)
for
Rashaad Penny, Devin Funchess, Josh Doctson, 2019 4th (early)
AJ Green, 2019 2nd (early)
for
Rashaad Penny, Devin Funchess, Josh Doctson, 2019 4th (early)
buck naked
Footballguy
FFPC TE-premium league
Gave: C. Kupp, D. Njoku, 2019 1st, 2019 2nd (picks will be late)
Received: A. Thielen, H. Henry
I already have G. Olsen & T. Burton so putting Henry on IR for a year is ok.
Gave: C. Kupp, D. Njoku, 2019 1st, 2019 2nd (picks will be late)
Received: A. Thielen, H. Henry
I already have G. Olsen & T. Burton so putting Henry on IR for a year is ok.
JPeso
Footballguy
I think you paid too much, given Njoku's value is extremely likely to surpass Henry while being someone you maybe use this year, and I don't see Thielen as an upgrade over Kupp (don't love either guy). Not sure where the 1st and 2nd are necessary with this one.
trojanbronco
Footballguy
12 Team PPR
Team A Received: Derrius Guice, Matt Ryan, 2019 1st
Team B Received: Jerick McKinnon, Baker Mayfield
Team A Received: Alex Collins, 2019 2nd, 2019 3rd
Team B Received: Kenyan Drake
Team A Received: Derrius Guice, Matt Ryan, 2019 1st
Team B Received: Jerick McKinnon, Baker Mayfield
Team A Received: Alex Collins, 2019 2nd, 2019 3rd
Team B Received: Kenyan Drake
jeaton6
Footballguy
First one seems more like a deal to be made for a true stud than McKinnon.
Second is I think is even. I like Drake more than Collins but the picks probably make up the difference.
