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13 hours ago, J3RS3YD3V1L said:

Draft tomorrow.  IDP performance scoring dynasty league. 

Booger Eaters gave up Brown, Antonio PIT WR; Year 2018 Draft Pick 1.06

Barf Kissers gave up Mariota, Marcus TEN QB;Henry, Derrick TEN RB;Robinson, Allen CHI WR; Year 2018 Draft Pick 1.04

 

Barf Kissers already have A.Rodgers, S.Barkley, D.Johnson, D.Adams, and Gronk.

 

6 hours ago, kutta said:

Brown easily. That’s pretty bad, IMO

I don't see that as bad at all. That is a great exit price on Brown for a rebuilding team. Multiple pieces that could be good a bump in draft spots. 

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2 hours ago, msudaisy26 said:

 

I don't see that as bad at all. That is a great exit price on Brown for a rebuilding team. Multiple pieces that could be good a bump in draft spots. 

I see it as a couple of quarters for a dollar bill and team giving up Brown only moved up two picks in the draft. I don't like the deal for the former Brown owner.

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2 minutes ago, northern exposure said:

I see it as a couple of quarters for a dollar bill and Barf Kissers moved back from the 1.04 pick to 1.06 too. I don't like the deal for them.

I did read the picks wrong which is bad, but still not that horrible. 

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1 hour ago, msudaisy26 said:

I did read the picks wrong which is bad, but still not that horrible. 

We will have to agree to disagree then because I would not trade Brown unless I was getting a sure thing in return. Mariota, Robinson and Henry all have question marks surrounding them and Booger Eaters only moved up two draft spots in the 1st round. 

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8 minutes ago, northern exposure said:

We will have to agree to disagree then because I would not trade Brown unless I was getting a sure thing in return. Mariota, Robinson and Henry all have question marks surrounding them and Barf Kissers dropped down two draft spots in the 1st round too. 

Most people trading Brown right now are rebuilding and aren't going to get sure things. Same thing for the teams trading for Brown, they are keeping their sure things and making a run. 

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7 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said:

Most people trading Brown right now are rebuilding and aren't going to get sure things. Same thing for the teams trading for Brown, they are keeping their sure things and making a run. 

I agree in general, but brown can go to a contender as an upgrade or for a bag of potential.  I'd see it as the bag of potential would have to have 3 elements, maybe if that deal had no 1.4 going the other way it ok if you like Henry and Arob.  I recently moved Brown for Diggs, Thielen and pick 8

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1 hour ago, msudaisy26 said:

Most people trading Brown right now are rebuilding and aren't going to get sure things. Same thing for the teams trading for Brown, they are keeping their sure things and making a run. 

That is your opinion, but the post right after your post contradicts it. djmich posts that he traded Brown for Diggs, Thielen and the 1.8 pick. Imo Diggs is a sure thing, Thielen is a solid WR2 and at pick 8 you will probably get a decent rookie RB or WR. I would take that package over Mariota, DHenry, ARob. 

In the Barf Kissers/Booger Eaters trade, The Kissers seem to have had some bad injury luck last season with ARod and DJohnson on their roster. They seem to have had the 1.1 pick and 1.4 pick in the rookie draft and have now added Barkley, Antonio Brown and whoever they draft at 1.6 to their roster. They added Brown without hurting their existing roster. Rodgers> Mariota. Barkley, David Johnson > DHenry and Adams, Brown > ARob. The 1.04 and 1.06 are pretty equal in terms of what is available at that point in the draft too.

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30 minutes ago, gianmarco said:

Just because you own Brown and are rebuilding doesn't mean you have to trade him today. 

A couple 25 point weeks and you'll likely get more than settling and selling low now.

But those 25 point games are gonna hurt your chances at getting a higher pick.

I do get what your saying but I’m not really sure Browns value can really go up anymore, I mean he’s already pretty much valued as the #1 wr in football all things considered. You would think people would jump all over a chance to trade for him but that’s not completely true. I ended up starting a rebuild last year after week 3 because my outlook was not very good and made AB available for trade and got 3 offers and they really weren’t that good. Ended up “settling” for a guaranteed early 2018 first round pick (ended up being 1.4 but was the 1.1 until the last 2 weeks of the season), Devin Funchess and Carlos Henderson. While I wanted more, keeping AB only would have hurt my chances at making my own first round pick very early. By trading AB my own first round pick ended up being 1.1. Funchess started putting up points and I was able to trade him in a package to a guy trying to make playoffs for dalvin Cook. I ended up getting tyreek hill in the offseason for the 1.4 pick and some other little stuff (while the 1.4 pick still seemed very valuable instead of the jumbled mess it is right now) and found the one owner who liked Henderson before he skipped camp and got Mahomes in a trade involving him.

So basically my point is yes AB is/could be worth more but in the long run sometimes you just have to take the deal that makes you the happiest or the best at that time and it may turn out decent at the end.

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36 minutes ago, northern exposure said:

That is your opinion, but the post right after your post contradicts it. djmich posts that he traded Brown for Diggs, Thielen and the 1.8 pick. Imo Diggs is a sure thing, Thielen is a solid WR2 and at pick 8 you will probably get a decent rookie RB or WR. I would take that package over Mariota, DHenry, ARob. 

In the Barf Kissers/Booger Eaters trade, The Kissers seem to have had some bad injury luck last season with ARod and DJohnson on their roster. They seem to have had the 1.1 pick and 1.4 pick in the rookie draft and have now added Barkley, Antonio Brown and whoever they draft at 1.6 to their roster. They added Brown without hurting their existing roster. Rodgers> Mariota. Barkley, David Johnson > DHenry and Adams, Brown > ARob. The 1.04 and 1.06 are pretty equal in terms of what is available at that point in the draft too.

That is your opinion. Diggs is far from a sure thing. He is a lot like Robinson. One good season and then some injuries. 

Your second to last sentence reinforces my point. You add Brown without hurting your current roster. 

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5 hours ago, msudaisy26 said:

Most people trading Brown right now are rebuilding and aren't going to get sure things. Same thing for the teams trading for Brown, they are keeping their sure things and making a run. 

It’s just not close IMO. 

Henry, Mariota, and Robinson for the consensus #1 WR? OK, Maybe #2?

Not a chance.

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18 hours ago, gianmarco said:

Just because you own Brown and are rebuilding doesn't mean you have to trade him today. 

A couple 25 point weeks and you'll likely get more than settling and selling low now.

And what if he doesn’t have “a couple 25 point weeks” to start the year?

I don’t love DHenry and Robinson as enough reason to deal Brown, but I do think now is the last time you will get tip top value for him. 

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7 hours ago, djmich said:

Start 1rb and 3wr though, not sure that’s good value

I agree. It is a PPR league too and they are giving up Brown and the 1.05 pick which depending how things go in the draft could be DJ Moore/Sutton/Ridley. I would need to know the other RBs and WRs on the team getting the 1.1 pick before I can judge who won the trade.

Without a flex starting spot they could end up starting Barkley every possible week and scraping together starting WRs. 

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1 hour ago, Dr. Dan said:

me too. this is a big trade, but one I would probably make. depends on the roster for sure 

My roster (I am the team trading for Barkley), must have min 2 players at any position:

QB: Watson, Roethlisberger, Lamar Jackson (3.7)

RB: Barkley, Alex Collins, James Conner

WR: Gordon, Amari Cooper, Tyreke Hill, Mike Williams, John Ross, Robert Woods, DJ Moore (1.07),  Anthony Miller (2.07), Dante Pettis (4.07), Keke Coutee (5.07)

TE: Jordan Reed, ASJ

Other team drafted Guice (1.05) and Michel (2.05) and owns David Johnson. WRs are the RBs in this format, so I wanted to get younger and deeper there. See what pans out, address my needs need via trade/future draft plans. I took best available rookies and with what I ended up getting in the draft, I'll take those rookies where I got them and deal with it as the season progresses.

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9 minutes ago, mquinnjr said:

My roster (I am the team trading for Barkley), must have min 2 players at any position:

QB: Watson, Roethlisberger, Lamar Jackson (3.7)

RB: Barkley, Alex Collins, James Conner

WR: Gordon, Amari Cooper, Tyreke Hill, Mike Williams, John Ross, Robert Woods, DJ Moore (1.07),  Anthony Miller (2.07), Dante Pettis (4.07), Keke Coutee (5.07)

TE: Jordan Reed, ASJ

Other team drafted Guice (1.05) and Michel (2.05) and owns David Johnson. WRs are the RBs in this format, so I wanted to get younger and deeper there. See what pans out, address my needs need via trade/future draft plans. I took best available rookies and with what I ended up getting in the draft, I'll take those rookies where I got them and deal with it as the season progresses.

I definitely think you can afford to lose Jimmy and Brown. I'm not as convinced about Watson as you are- Jimmy would be nice insurance, but you did get Jackson. 3.7 is crazy imo. 

Miller 2.7 and Pettis in round 4? Coutee round 5?! How many teams is this league, 8? how did Michel slip to 2.5 This league is a head scratcher. 

that's absurd... post draft you won this by a landslide. you needed rb help bad and you got the best in this class

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1 hour ago, Dr. Dan said:

I definitely think you can afford to lose Jimmy and Brown. I'm not as convinced about Watson as you are- Jimmy would be nice insurance, but you did get Jackson. 3.7 is crazy imo. 

Miller 2.7 and Pettis in round 4? Coutee round 5?! How many teams is this league, 8? how did Michel slip to 2.5 This league is a head scratcher. 

that's absurd... post draft you won this by a landslide. you needed rb help bad and you got the best in this class

10 team work dynasty league. This is my 3rd season, league has been around for a long time. Saw guys taking non-rookie FA's and just scratching my head. Definitely :loco:

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15 hours ago, Arodin said:

Team A gets Melvin Gordon.

Team B gets Allen Robinson.

(8-team, nonppr, 2qb,4rb,6wr,flex)

Melvin

14 hours ago, Arodin said:

Another, one owner the same:

Team B gets Randall Cobb.

Team C gets Kenyan Drake.

:confused:

Drake

13 hours ago, ex-ghost said:

12 team non ppr

 

David Johnson

for

TY Hilton

2018 1.3 (Guice)

2019 1st (prob 4-8)

not awful value but i prefer DJ by a good deal

15 minutes ago, gianmarco said:

12 team, 1 ppr

Team A receives:  Njoku/2nd round pick (devy league so more like a 3rd)

Team B receives:  H. Henry/J. Crowder

Njoku I think. Not a crowder fan

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On 8/26/2018 at 0:46 PM, djmich said:

Start 1rb and 3wr though, not sure that’s good value

That's a odd lineup configuration. 20 team league? I can think of no other reason to have 1RB without at least a flex. Then again, I just saw an 8 team league mentioned in this thread without a TE position. Some weird leagues out there. 

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10 team, non ppr, start q, r, r, w, w, flex, t, k, idp

A (very stacked team, lost in the championship last year) trades Juju and a pair of 2019 1st round picks, both likely very early as in possibly the #1 and #2 overall (one of them is team B's)

B (very weak team, only real RB was Guice) traded Antonio Brown.

Without Brown, B is easily the weakest team in the league, so getting his own 1st next year back nearly cements him into having the #1.  The other first rounder is a team that very rarely makes the playoffs and was 8th out of 10 last year.

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24-Man roster, .5 PPR Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex (WR, RB, or TE), 1DEF, 1K

Traded: Corey Coleman

Received: 2019 4th round pick (likely late)

I would have liked to received more but the news he may be cut by the Bills hurt some. Ultimately, I was going to cut him so it's a matter of getting something for him and choosing to keep other players on my team such as Blake Bortles, Mitchell Trubisky, Aaron Jones, Mark Walton, DeDe Westbrook, Charles Clay (2nd TE from redraft perspective), and Ravens defense (2nd defense) over him.

 

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1 hour ago, matttyl said:

10 team, non ppr, start q, r, r, w, w, flex, t, k, idp

A (very stacked team, lost in the championship last year) trades Juju and a pair of 2019 1st round picks, both likely very early as in possibly the #1 and #2 overall (one of them is team B's)

B (very weak team, only real RB was Guice) traded Antonio Brown.

Without Brown, B is easily the weakest team in the league, so getting his own 1st next year back nearly cements him into having the #1.  The other first rounder is a team that very rarely makes the playoffs and was 8th out of 10 last year.

I would trade Brown for that even if I was the runaway favorite in the league. 

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2 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said:

I would trade Brown for that even if I was the runaway favorite in the league. 

Interesting.  League is upset that Brown went for that (no starters from A).  A now has lineup (in a 10 teamer keep in mind) of A Rodgers, Fournette, Gordon, Hunt, A Brown, K Allen, Olson/Reed.  B now has an even crappier team, and likely locked into 4 picks in the top 12 next year already. 

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Just now, matttyl said:

Interesting.  League is upset that Brown went for just picks.  A now has lineup (in a 10 teamer keep in mind) of A Rodgers, Fournette, Gordon, Hunt, A Brown, K Allen, Olson/Reed.  B now has an even crappier team, and likely locked into 4 picks in the top 12 next year already. 

The trade said Juju and picks. 

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Just now, msudaisy26 said:

The trade said Juju and picks. 

Yes, it did - sorry.  Fixed.  I meant to say that league was upset that Brown went and A didn't have to move any starters to do it (Landy was likely the other starting WR for team A prior, who now slides to his WR#3). 

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1 hour ago, matttyl said:

Yes, it did - sorry.  Fixed.  I meant to say that league was upset that Brown went and A didn't have to move any starters to do it (Landy was likely the other starting WR for team A prior, who now slides to his WR#3). 

The league is upset that, barring injury, team A is the heavy favorite.  Nothing wrong with the trade.

On 8/10/2018 at 9:45 PM, Bfrahm3 said:

 

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10 minutes ago, matttyl said:

10 teamer, full PPR, start 1 qb, 1 rb, 1 wr, 3 flex, te, idp

Guice for B Cooks, straight up no chaser

I think that's cheap for Cooks. That's essentially a mid/late first rounder for Cooks straight up. I would think Cooks would warrant a little bit more in that kind of deal. Not to mention Guice is hurt for the year. And I'm a huge Guice fan and I sold Cooks myself for a mid to late 1st, high 3rd and a player (Godwin) 

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2 minutes ago, Dr. Dan said:

I think that's cheap for Cooks. That's essentially a mid/late first rounder for Cooks straight up. I would think Cooks would warrant a little bit more in that kind of deal. Not to mention Guice is hurt for the year. And I'm a huge Guice fan and I sold Cooks myself for a mid to late 1st, high 3rd and a player (Godwin) 

Even in a PPR league?  It's been a few years since he's topped 80 catches, and that was in New Orleans with Brres in his prime.

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