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8 minutes ago, barackdhouse said:

he went between around 1.08 and 2.02 in mine.

the only thing I'd argue here is that TE's usually take longer so usually worth more in year 2 or 3 then as a rookie. Fant flashed enough that we are pretty positive he'll be good. I didn't think it was that far off but I sold him as I like the top half of rd1 in this draft. In several of my FFPC league he went 1.4-1.7 last year

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22 minutes ago, BINGBING said:

12 team PPR Superflex

Team A gives:

2020 1.01

2021 2nd

2021 2nd

Team B gives:

2020 1.07

2021 1st

2021 1st

The furthest I would fall giving up the 1.01 is 1.06.  Also, I wouldn't have given two 2nd rd picks to move down to 1.06.  The most I would have considered is the 1.01 and one 2021 2nd for the 1.06 and two 2021 1st rd picks.  I wouldn't even do that for the 1.07.  I would want one of Swift, Dobbins, Etienne, Jeudy, Lamb, or Taylor.

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13 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

The furthest I would fall giving up the 1.01 is 1.06.  Also, I wouldn't have given two 2nd rd picks to move down to 1.06.  The most I would have considered is the 1.01 and one 2021 2nd for the 1.06 and two 2021 1st rd picks.  I wouldn't even do that for the 1.07.  I would want one of Swift, Dobbins, Etienne, Jeudy, Lamb, or Taylor.

I agree with your overall point but every year a RB or WR that no one is hyping yet goes to a prime location and gets “overdrafted” so one or two of those guys will likely drop to 1.07.

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4 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

I agree with your overall point but every year a RB or WR that no one is hyping yet goes to a prime location and gets “overdrafted” so one or two of those guys will likely drop to 1.07.

Regardless, I wouldn't have given two 2nd rd picks in the deal, just one, even if I was willing to get the 1.07 instead of it being the 1.06.  Not to mention that one or two of those players I listed in my top 6 could end up in a crappy situation. 

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6 hours ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Why would anyone give that for Noah Fant?

This is one of those trades I think the new Fant owner could end up winning but it's just a little  rich to me considering the strength of this draft plus when you acquire someone in FFPC before the cutdown date at end of March I want more value since you are taking on that extra roster spot and enabling the other team to free up one.

But he's 22, he absolutely flashed, this TE class is not overly strong or deep and most TE's pop in year two. I took him at 1.7 last year and don't have one iota of regret.

Since majority of successful fantasy TE's break out or take big year two jumps and are rarely useful as rookies  I don't think it's a stretch to think his value went up because you basically had another team waste the roster spot on him last year.

 I just don't like the timing due to roster constraints and general build up of rookie love and feel like if I was looking for a TE I'd not pay more then 10-12 range for him right now and I would label Fant as one of my top "buy" TE's. Look at this another way I would think the odds are considerably low that after months of rookie buildup that if you wanted Fant for 1.5 when rookie drafts start that you can't get it. The 1.5 is just much of more of a fluid likely to increase asset right now to me but now it's spent.

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1 hour ago, TheBottomLine said:

10-team PPR with IDP

gave Miles Sanders, OBJ, 1.07, 1.09

got Saquon, Devin Singletary, Mike Williams

I heavily prefer Sanders and the picks here.  As good as Saquon is, give me 2 great picks that I’m confident I can draft quality players with.  Maybe that’s arrogant of me thinking I can draft well.  I have a tier drop after top9 though as well and a few favorites in that range that I like.  
 

I’m not a believer in Singletary or Mike Williams long term so I’d prefer giving those up instead of getting them.  But I do like the idea of trading OBJ but I wouldn’t put picks with him to get something of value.  

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2 hours ago, Zyphros said:

I heavily prefer Sanders and the picks here.  As good as Saquon is, give me 2 great picks that I’m confident I can draft quality players with.  Maybe that’s arrogant of me thinking I can draft well.  I have a tier drop after top9 though as well and a few favorites in that range that I like.  
 

I’m not a believer in Singletary or Mike Williams long term so I’d prefer giving those up instead of getting them.  But I do like the idea of trading OBJ but I wouldn’t put picks with him to get something of value.  

I agree with all of that.   

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1 minute ago, The Captain said:

12 Team Non PPR

Team A gives:  

Devin Singletary, Pick 1.11

Team B gives:

Ronald Jones, Rashaad Penny, Dallas Goedert, Pick 2.02

 

I'm not a believer in Penny or Jones, but I do love Goedert.  I suppose it's a fair trade, but what it really boils down to to me is Singletary and the 1.11 vs Goedert and the 2.02.  I probably still side with Singletary and the 1.11.

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On 1/17/2020 at 8:05 PM, ninerfan said:

12 Team PPR

Team A receives: DeAndre Hopkins, DeAndre Washington

Team B receives: Zeke Elliott, Tony Pollard

Too light for Elliot IMO. He scores more in general, more consistently, at a more premium position. Plus Pollard is someone of real value, to Elliot owner or otherwise. I know I own Pollard in two leagues and you'd need a second to pry him away from me.

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FFPC

 

Gave: Tevin Coleman and Jared Goff

Got: Rashad Penny

Was going to cut Goff. Had Tevin as my last keeper but wanted to upgrade as I don’t think he is worth keeping. I anticipate Penny missing all or most of next season which is fine as team has no immediate needs and I think he still might be a good long term play who I can likely stash on IR next season and not take up a roster spot.

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12 Team PPR 1/2/2/1/ 2 Flex 

I needed an upgrade on WR3 (D Adams, T Lockett, M Sanu, M Boykin, T Gabriel) & had all late picks (4 round rookie draft) limited space on Roster to use picks anyway....

Got:  Cin WR John Ross

Gave: 2.11, 4.06, 4.11, 4.12 

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Gave: Tevin Coleman, Jared Goff

Got: Rashad Penny

 

Goff was going to be a cut and I don't think Tevin is deserving of making a 14 man off-season roster but he was my current 14th and last keeper and I needed to make an upgrade and view RB as my teams biggest need.

My expectation with Penny is that he misses all or most of next season. Anything else would be a bonus.

 When I do cuts my RB's look like they will be  Penny along with Kamara/Latavius, Dalvin/Mattison and Bell. So basically 2 starters who I got handcuffed and  Bell as my #3RB.  My idea here is that I stash Penny on IR most or all of next year, and hopefully in 2021 he enters my RB mix which with hope he replaces Bell as my RB3. Cost of this was basically free or whatever I could get for Goff/Tevin so pretty happy with this fairly minor trade even if I think first chance I see benefit is likely 2021.

 

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12 Team PPR 1/2/2/1/ 2 Flex

Gave:  Clev TE D Njoku                                                                 

Got: Mia WR Preston Williams & JAX WR Dede Westbrook 

I still have TE's LAR Tyler Higbee, NOS Jared Cook, OAK/LV Darren Waller, WAS Jeremy Sprinkle & NYG Kaden Smith). 

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1 hour ago, Birdie048 said:

12 Team PPR 1/2/2/1/ 2 Flex

Gave:  Clev TE D Njoku                                                                 

Got: Mia WR Preston Williams & JAX WR Dede Westbrook 

I still have TE's LAR Tyler Higbee, NOS Jared Cook, OAK/LV Darren Waller, WAS Jeremy Sprinkle & NYG Kaden Smith). 

Unicorn by several Njokus.

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On 1/28/2020 at 9:23 AM, coachoneill said:

This one just went down in my league (not involved).  10 team superflex PPR

Team A sends: Justice Hill and 2.3

Team B sends Mark Andrews

Team receiving Hill is also the Ingram owner for what that's worth.  

Ouch.  Andrews by a lot.  By the time Ingram is done BALT will probably have a much better option than Hill to take over the role.

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1 hour ago, Birdie048 said:

12 Team PPR 1/2/2/1/ 2 Flex

Gave:  Clev TE D Njoku                                                                 

Got: Mia WR Preston Williams & JAX WR Dede Westbrook 

I still have TE's LAR Tyler Higbee, NOS Jared Cook, OAK/LV Darren Waller, WAS Jeremy Sprinkle & NYG Kaden Smith). 

 

55 minutes ago, fredsavage said:

Unicorn by several Njokus.

 

7 minutes ago, RushHour said:

Seconded. 

Thanks for the feedback... I was surprised by the offer... I was afraid I was missing something...  He has Kittle so I was not sure his goal.  

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7 hours ago, Birdie048 said:

 

 

Thanks for the feedback... I was surprised by the offer... I was afraid I was missing something...  He has Kittle so I was not sure his goal.  

I agree with the majority here so far on this deal but my guess is he is banking on new coaches to give Njoku the chance he didn’t get with Kitchens, at least this past season.

I've been trying to buy Njoku cheap myself as I think he go doghoused and am hopeful his talent didn’t just up and leave.

This was not a buy low however.

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12 hours ago, Birdie048 said:

12 Team PPR 1/2/2/1/ 2 Flex

Gave:  Clev TE D Njoku                                                                 

Got: Mia WR Preston Williams & JAX WR Dede Westbrook 

I still have TE's LAR Tyler Higbee, NOS Jared Cook, OAK/LV Darren Waller, WAS Jeremy Sprinkle & NYG Kaden Smith). 

Williams. I don't understand the love for Njoku, he drops too many balls and too many mouths to feed in Cleveland.

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7 hours ago, battlestar said:

I agree with the majority here so far on this deal but my guess is he is banking on new coaches to give Njoku the chance he didn’t get with Kitchens, at least this past season.

I've been trying to buy Njoku cheap myself as I think he go doghoused and am hopeful his talent didn’t just up and leave.

This was not a buy low however.

Well, some illumination on the other owner's plans....  He traded SF TE George Kittle  for ARZ Christian Kirk & 1.11 pick

 

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10 hours ago, Dr. Dan said:

I would have preferred to give up Waller, but you did come out on top

I had been offering Waller as Trade Bait.. but no takers...  The only targets were Higbee & Njoku

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7 hours ago, Ben & Jerry's said:

10 team big play IDP dynasty

TE Chris Herndon

for 

LB Bud Dupree + 2020 5th round pick

Herndon is an interesting piece.  He is very hard to place a value on because Griffin did well in his place and the Jets are a mess. 

 

Dupree seemed to put it together for this last year and should still get favorable matchups with Watt on the other side.  I probably like the Dupree side in big play scoring.

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