rockaction
Footballguy
Toss up for calcs, and I like both sides. Hurts a little all around, provides enough of a carrot to avoid the stick. Worst 1.03 winds up with is a quality back if he or she wants one.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I really like Slayton but I don't think I'd pass on the 1.03 here. Might depend if I had any other early picks.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
I didn't post context because I prefer the analysis of the value in a vaccuum. I'll add it in a little bit.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I don't think it was a horrible trade because if that pick is top 6 you will come away with one of Ja'Marr Chase, Rashod Blackmon, Travis Etienne, Rondale Moore, Najee Harris, Devonta Smith, or Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, Jaylen Waddle and Justyn Ross. If the pick is top 4 you are golden.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
That's fair, like I said I go 1.03. I have no issue with the other side. Totally fair deal.
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Boston
Footballguy
Easily 1.3...very easily...Slayton is intriguing but not someone I am targeting for the 1.3 when there are some great options right now...not sure what the allure of this deal is.
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
Boston
Footballguy
It doesn't...I get it, there's a good group next year, there always is, but that is a year away...I would need much more then Slayton for me to do this deal...I can figure out another way to get a top pick next year that doesn't hurt me this year.
Without knowing rosters... I’d have to be extremely confident that’s a lock top pick next year, even then, I like Slayton but he is not enough for the risk. I’ve seen too many teams basically go from bad to playoff caliber in a year especially after adding a top RB prospect.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
12 team FFPC style that disbands after 2020 jackpot season.
I'll try to ease up on these since our rookie drafts start next week and there is sure to be some divergence between regular dynasty leagues and this one where rookies are being asked to perform in year 1 only. I don't want to clutter the board with these but I do think they have value to publicize. Anyway this exact trade scenario has come up in other threads.
Team A gives 1.01
Team B gives Jacobs
I'll try to ease up on these since our rookie drafts start next week and there is sure to be some divergence between regular dynasty leagues and this one where rookies are being asked to perform in year 1 only. I don't want to clutter the board with these but I do think they have value to publicize. Anyway this exact trade scenario has come up in other threads.
Team A gives 1.01
Team B gives Jacobs
Smokin Okie
Footballguy
I gave 1.05 2.01 Christian Kirk
I get 1.02, 4th rd next year
I already had the 1.01 and wanted the 1.02 to take CEH and Taylor.
12 team PPR/IDP league
12 player keeper league
Roster size of 24
Start 14.
Start Offense: QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, Flex
Start defense: LB, LB, DL, DL, DB, DB
I get 1.02, 4th rd next year
I already had the 1.01 and wanted the 1.02 to take CEH and Taylor.
12 team PPR/IDP league
12 player keeper league
Roster size of 24
Start 14.
Start Offense: QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, Flex
Start defense: LB, LB, DL, DL, DB, DB
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The Future Champs
Footballguy
The Future Champs
Footballguy
starting requirements, scoring system, roster size, and # of teams would be nice info here
The Future Champs
Footballguy
I mean, a 16 team league that starts 2rb/3wr/1te/2 flex? I want the 1.05 side of things.
10 teams, 2rb/2wr/1te/1 flex? Lean towards the 1.02, but realize you're passing on a nice WR prospect with that 2.01.
10 teams, 2rb/2wr/1te/1 flex? Lean towards the 1.02, but realize you're passing on a nice WR prospect with that 2.01.
Smokin Okie
Footballguy
I'd agree with that and this is coming from someone who just dealt Jacobs for CEH but for a few reasons I'd lean a little to Jacobs for 2020.
The Future Champs
Footballguy
Hmmm, I've been in a very similar league for the last 10 years. With just 12 keepers I'd lean towards the 1.02. Get the guy you want, and unless your WRs are horrible you're not keeping Kirk.
Are there any limitations on the keepers by position, and is the IDP scoring significant enough to make keeping IDP players a viable play? My league gives 3 pts per solo tackle, and the stud LBs carry significant value as a result.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Jamaal Williams, Easton Stick for 3.12 and Mid 4th
Johnny B. Goode
Footballguy
Smokin Okie
Footballguy
I’m in good position at WR so I could afford to lose Kirk. Currently I have Adams, Sutton, JuJu, Moore, Hollywood Brown.
There aren’t any limitations on keepers by position and our IDP scoring is only 1 pt per tackle so not as significant as your league IDP scoring. Being able to draft CEH and Taylor to add to already owned Zeke and Fournette will give me a good stable of RBs.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I love Jacobs. I would have made this trade in a heartbeat. I have 1.2 and wish I could have got that bite. However, yesterday we did have:
Jacobs & Rams D
for
1.7, 1.12, 3.4, & Cowboys D
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
12 team, .5 PPR, and I still have 1.2 but just made:
Mixon and 1.4
for
Zeke, 4.12, and 2021 2nd (most likely 20-24)
Any thoughts on how I made out?
Mixon and 1.4
for
Zeke, 4.12, and 2021 2nd (most likely 20-24)
Any thoughts on how I made out?
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
12 team ppr QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FL
Team A gave up Johnson, David HOU RB; Anderson, Robby CAR WR; Cooks, Brandin HOU WR
Team B gave up Garoppolo, Jimmy SFO QB; McLaurin, Terry WAS WR; Watkins, Sammy KCC WR
Team A gave up Johnson, David HOU RB; Anderson, Robby CAR WR; Cooks, Brandin HOU WR
Team B gave up Garoppolo, Jimmy SFO QB; McLaurin, Terry WAS WR; Watkins, Sammy KCC WR
Zyphros
Footballguy
Sorry bud, Mixon and 1.04 by a mile. Building around 1.02, 1.04 and Mixon is already a great haul with top tier talent, no point in giving that up just to pivot laterally to Zeke.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
Thanks for the feedback. I'm still learning value of picks. I also have Kamara & Barkley from previous trades this offseason so I won't be playing a rookie anyways.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Starting Kamar, Barkley and Zeke gives you a huge advantage - I like the trade for you.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
That was my thinking. I just gave up a lot of assets to get Barkley/Kamara so 1.4 was suppose to help with depth and future. There better be a season this year because I have pushed my chips all in.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
Lol. No. I had a huge AZ fan that wanted to pair his Kyler Murray with my D-Hop the day of that trade from Houston so that is how I got Kamara (not straight up) and the Barkley owner is addicted to trading, wanting to rebuild, is a Raider fan, and wanted assets so I sent picks, Carson, RoJo, and Waller to him for Barkley. The Kamara deal was expensive but I did get the best of Barkley by a long shot yes.Snorkelson said:
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus said:
I was surprised to look up that Mixon is only 1 year younger than Zeke. Guess that shouldn't be much of a factor here. I'd need a lot more than that 2nd to move this 1.4, though. I will acknowledge that Zeke has proven himself a stud while Mixon hasn't quite lived up to owner's expectations yet. It *is* an upgrade in your boxscore. But I also think Mixon's situation just got a lot better. I like the upgrade but not crazy about the price. 1.04 is going to be a stud. Your starting backfield looks amazing, though.Jonesin For Some Football said:
barackdhouse
Footballguy
that's ####### bull#### collusion
lol wow
^^sarcasm schtick mode was active^^
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Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I agree. Lol. He got 1.3 (I got in the D-hop/Kamara trade as I sent Aaron Jones over too in the deal) so he did get a really high pick there but he should have asked for a lot more for Barkley. I couldn't click accept fast enough.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
Cinci's improvements and Mixon only 23 is what gave me pause. Also, I really wanted 4 as I don't have picks in 2021 and 2 & 4 are a big part of my future. I guess I just let my eyes get wide when I thought of a Barkley/Zeke/Kamara backfield.
Matt's Eagles
Footballguy
12 Team PPR
Team A got L Bell, 2.02, Alshon Jeffrey
Team B got C Kupp, 2.10
Team A got L Bell, 2.02, Alshon Jeffrey
Team B got C Kupp, 2.10
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
That's the biggest piece of that side, then, and it makes a big difference. I'd still pay it, though. Waller and Carson were both waiver or FA draftees for me, and I got Jones for a 2nd last year after someone gave up on him. Sometimes those waiver FA gems can really be flipped for a profit. I turned a parlay of a couple of these free pieces into Mike Evans once. I think it was Woods, Lindsay and a draft pick. Anyway, good luck.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
Thank you much. I will say I'm loving this dynasty thing. I have played redraft for 12 years and DFS for 4-5 but this is my first offseason in dynasty. Wish I would have been doing it longer.
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
Std 12 tm ppr 1/2/3/1/2F
2nd yr discount orphan (bad shape) really hurting at rb (duke johnson, jordan howard damien harris top 3 type hurting)
Gave - AJ Brown, 2.9
Got - 1.1
I think it is fairly even (fwiw, also have 1.3 and some 2ds but tm needs a LOT of work).
2nd yr discount orphan (bad shape) really hurting at rb (duke johnson, jordan howard damien harris top 3 type hurting)
Gave - AJ Brown, 2.9
Got - 1.1
I think it is fairly even (fwiw, also have 1.3 and some 2ds but tm needs a LOT of work).
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I'm not as high on AJ Brown as most so taking that for what it is I don't think this is close in a vacuum and awesome specifically for your team.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I would probably take Mixon/1.04 but it is close and I think people considering Zeke and Mixon are a wash are jumping way ahead. Similar to how they did that heading into last year only to see Zeke outscore Mixon by 5.5ppg.
I like Mixon but moving from an actual broken out player to a perpetual "he's going to break out" player is not a lateral move. Maybe this will be Mixon's this year, or maybe he'll just tease us every year and never actually match the production of guys like Zeke while being traded around as if he already has.
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Boston
Footballguy
Great move...with the 1.1 and 1.3 you are now in a good spot to remake that awful RB unit...losing AJB is tough but no doubt this was the right move.
Rig24
Footballguy
